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join:2002-08-18
Oradell, NJ | Shucks Come on Belkin- I would've taken cash to post fake reviews on dlsr! :P | |
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join:2001-03-27
Lawrence, KS | Re: Shucks Ditto | |
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ARGONAUT
got ping?
join:2006-01-24
New Albany, IN
| said by Mactron  :I've never have had very good luck with Belkin products... Mark this post as Unhelpful.  Same here.
Most of the time it's a overheating issue.
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join:2000-06-30
Spring, TX
| Re: Shucks You are SO RIGHT!!! I thought it was me. I've had 3 (THREE!) N1 Vision routers overheat and freeze up. They all have the same problem. Of course their RMA process is relatively painless but re-configuration of the router/port forwarding/DMZ is a PITA!!! Unbelieveable. | |
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Geminimind
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join:2003-12-20
Sacramento, CA | Belkin sucks None of their products work. So I can see why they would pay | |
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Alex
@QWEST.NET | Heard Belkin sucked, bought a "good deal" anyways, router didn't work.... sticking with Linksys | |
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travisc
join:2001-11-09
Port Perry, ON | Re: Shucks Maybe they're fast? | |
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archivegaming
@anonymouse.org
| Re: Shucks said by travisc :Maybe they're fast? Maybe all of Belkin's reviews are from loyal customers.
It's a bit odd that, unlike most companies in speedtests the #1 and #2 companies have 99% anonymous tests.
May be possible, but it is a large anomaly. Something that could be looked into by the BBR admins. | |
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join:2002-04-10 | Well you know the quality when they must bribe people to rate positive... LOL. Red flag. Don't buy me from now on. | |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
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| Re: Shucks said by jc100 :Well you know the quality when they must bribe people to rate positive... LOL. Red flag. Don't buy me from now on. your right about that...this is *great* advertisement for belkin. | |
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join:2002-04-10
1 edit | Re: Shucks Exactly. The saying that a product should speak for itself is the tried and true testament. Anyone that go would through the trouble of fabricating a review, has a product not worth taking a second look at. | |
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sivran
Long Live The Suite
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join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
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1 edit | My Belkin UPSes and USB hubs are the best. I was disappointed when my local Fry's stopped carrying the Belkin UPS line.
This review not endorsed by Belkin. | |
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join:2007-03-03
1001EB
| said by Jagermeistr :Come on Belkin- I would've taken cash to post fake reviews on dlsr! :P I know, I would have too! | |
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Dan H commenter
@comcast.net | Re: EPIC FAYL!! OT, but I LOVE the pic. That was my favorite late-night eatery when I was in college (you blotted out the area code, so I'll omit the school name, but offer one hint: there was a rhododendron test garden nearby).
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| quatrix
Premium
join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL | No, your use of the stupid "fail" fad says it all. | |
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY | Re: EPIC FAYL!! Thank you, thank you.... */hats off /* | |
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TomClancy
Freedom isn't free
join:2003-04-23
... | Don't get the removal of the area code??? One quick 'google' can give you all the info you need. | |
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PrntRhd
join:2004-11-03
Fairfield, CA | Belkin Busted Only one comment, is the employee still employed by Belkin? If he is, their mea culpa is just window dressing. | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Re: Belkin Busted That's the way I see it. The fact that they did not announce his firing from the company tells us this was a standard and sanctioned practice. | |
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jayco437
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join:2001-08-11
Lincoln, NE
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| Re: Happens a lot said by Matt :Regardless, I've shunned all the offers unless I felt that the product was absolutely worthy of a glowing review ... which has happened exactly one time. This is a good example. Some things to think about that I as a consumer expect from people that do reviews... I would want to know:
Did you accept remuneration for posting a review?
Did you disclose the remuneration in the review?
The "safe bet" is to turn down the remuneration and do the review anyways. However, if you do accept remuneration I think its good practice to disclose it. The acceptance of remuneration, regardless of intent (i.e. I was going to write a good review anyways), can taint the review. If indeed, this one product was worthy of a glowing review don't you, as someone in a position to speak about this product and have your voice listened to by others, owe it to your readers to keep your review as impartial and unbiased as possible? The trust you build with fair and impartial reviews is worth far more than any single company could compensate you for the reviews.
In the federal government "pay for play" gets people into trouble and sidetracks careers. In the private sector its more a public shaming than anything.
I'm not questioning your actual reviews or expecting you to answer the two questions I posed above. Just more of a "something to think about" for everyone (not directed to you though).
The guy that posted the Belkin deal could very well be looking at losing his job for what he probably thought was not a big deal. Next time he should have them sign NDAs maybe  | |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs: | wow, cheap $0.65 a review? that's fairly cheap. | |
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RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| Re: wow, cheap said by morbo :$0.65 a review? that's fairly cheap. Also, the cost of the check and postage to mail it will probably double the cost of the payment (ignoring the cost of monitoring/validating the request for the bribe payment). | |
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crazediamond
That's Dr. Craze to you
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join:2002-01-19
Germantown, MD
| Re: wow, cheap said by RARPSL :said by morbo :$0.65 a review? that's fairly cheap. Also, the cost of the check and postage to mail it will probably double the cost of the payment (ignoring the cost of monitoring/validating the request for the bribe payment). That's not how mechanical turk works.
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| quatrix
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL | These people must really not have anything better to do. Assuming five minutes per review, they're making $7.80 an hour, barely over federal minimum wage. | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Re: Obviously Michael Bayard was looking to achieve something Based on? Belkin did not say they fired him. There can only be one reason for retaining him. That what he was doing was standard practice and Belkin isn't going to make things worse by firing someone who would turn around and spill the beans. | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Re: Obviously Michael Bayard was looking to achieve something It's simple. If belkin is truly appalled by this, they would have fired the guy and told us. And you don't move a guy around after he seriously damages your companies reputation like this. | |
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JohnQPublic
Premium
join:2002-03-22
Xanadu
| I endorse this post Was Michael funding Operation Bogus Reviews out of petty cash or was Belkin actually cutting company checks? If the latter, then they do indeed endorse bribery.
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Belkin does not participate in, nor does it endorse, unethical practices like this. We know that people look to online user reviews for unbiased opinions from fellow users and instances like this challenge the implicit trust that is placed in this interaction. We regard our responsibility to our user community as sacred, and we are extremely sorry that this happened. We want to stress that this is an isolated incident.
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cableties
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join:2005-01-27 | Profits from their overpriced USB cables... Paid for this email.
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rjdriver
@cox.net
| Re: Profits from their overpriced USB cables... >>Profits from their overpriced USB cables...
Amen!
I went into Radio Shack the other day and asked for a reasonbly priced 6' HDMI cable. She walked me over to a Belkin selling for $39.99 in one of those tough plastic cases you need a sledgehammer to open. I said, "reasonably priced?" She said, "Thats's the cheapest one we have." I said "This store used to be such a great resource for cables and adapters. What a shame." and walked out.
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Nice racism to boot "Belkin has since posted an apology to their website claiming Bayard was off the reservation:"
As one who grandmother was actually born and rasied on one I find that comment offensive. | |
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Dr Demento
I Vant Blud
join:2002-01-02
Denville, NJ | Re: Nice racism to boot "Look at that monkey RUN!" | |
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join:2000-06-30
Spring, TX | Re: Nice racism to boot It was a "little monkey" and Howard Cosell is/was the ultimate douche. | |
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
1 edit | Upon reflection, I do not wish to post. Take me back!
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join:2004-10-14
Draper, UT | Upon reflection, I do not wish to post. Take me back!
Get a life. | |
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lordfly
join:2000-10-12
Homestead, FL | No need to pay me to say.... Belkin Sucks! Sorry couldn't help that.
Gee, that explains why I threw all of the cheap units the previous Network Admin had purchased.
But really, is using money to sway reviews or popularity votes unusual? | |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy
| Re: No need to pay me to say.... said by lordfly :Belkin Sucks! Sorry couldn't help that. Gee, that explains why I threw all of the cheap units the previous Network Admin had purchased. But really, is using money to sway reviews or popularity votes unusual? No, it's just that companies usually reserve doing so with "prestigious magazines" and the like. There's been more than a few "product reviews" that I've had to ask myself, "did you actually even use that PoS?"
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compton
join:2002-02-08
Brooklyn, NY
| Shamelessly gaming the system They should pay more attention to customers satisfaction instead of trying to buy positive reviews in order to trick a few more people into buying their products. If a sizable percentage of Belkin's customers don't have good experiences with their products then all the paid positive reviews will not help them because brand loyalty and word of mouth is huge. for any business. I guess they decided why fix their products when they can game the system; it's also cheaper. | |
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badtrip
East Bay
Premium
join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA | This is the exact reason... ...why I always consider only the negative user generated reviews on websites when researching a purchase. A negative review is far more telling about the reviewer and the product. Positive user reviews are largely worthless, IMO. | |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy
| Re: This is the exact reason... said by badtrip :...why I always consider only the negative user generated reviews on websites when researching a purchase. A negative review is far more telling about the reviewer and the product. Positive user reviews are largely worthless, IMO. Yup... At best, they indicate that the person just didn't really use the purchase (I've seen quite a few posts like, "I just got it out of the box and it's great thus far"). At worst, it's someone gaming the sytem.
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy
| Guess I Won't be getting that 65 cents Because, my review of the router I bought was FAR from flattering. I'd have given them zero stars, but that didn't seem to be an option.
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joeblow
join:2007-07-14
Knoxville, TN | does comcast do this too? I have been trying to find out how much Comcast pays people to post here on the HSI. I get modded everytime so I gave up. I am always looking for a little x tra income. | |
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | Re: does comcast do this too? You'd have to ask the moderators how much they are being paid to delete your posts.
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
Premium
join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | Re: Won't Touch Belkin Routers I have a Belkin wired/wireless router. It works flawlessly using the wire ports but if I'm more than 7-10m from the AP, the signal on my laptop is down to 50-60%...even the living room I get around 70% tops. | |
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null | Symantec does the same I have seen Symantec posting the same things on MTurk....
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| What they don't tell you I have discovered the word Belkin originated from an almost extinct language located in the extreme Northern most area of the Hindu Kush mountain range. The above script roughly translate out to
"My idiot son tried to burn fresh horse turds in the yurt they smoked to much and made everything smell bad".
The 2nd word down on te left hand column in this Pon-nustian sentence is Belkinosttoma which translates out to something like "Fresh steaming and smelly horse turd"
The tern Belkinosttoma describes the luck I have had with anything made by Belkin.
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TomClancy
Freedom isn't free
join:2003-04-23
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BodyBumper
join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA | Belkin's headquarter is in Compton Why am I not surprised by this? | |
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Belkin Busted Paying For Positive Amazon Reviews
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