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New Senate proposal banning taxes for four years expected
(old news - 12:56PM Saturday Apr 24 2004)
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Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., the chairman of the Commerce Committee, is working to revive a bill banning taxes on Internet connections. Senators have been at a virtual stand-still since the temporary ban expired back on November 1st as previously reported. The main issue is over heavy concerns that both state and local governments could lose billions in tax revenue.

It is expected that McCain will propose banning taxes (Washington Post - Free Registration) for four years on services that connect the consumer to the Internet, said congressional officials speaking on condition of anonymity. States that were exempted from the original ban would be given three years to eliminate their taxes. States that currently tax DSL connection services would have two years to end their levies.

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dadkins
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Someone actually ...

...doing something to reduce/ban taxes?!?:)

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Re: Someone actually ...

yeah i'm surprised at this myself. I don't see how taxing the internet connections is any different then all the taxes I see on my wireless phone bill.

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Re: Someone actually ...

Interesting how in an election year when Republican support is falling, a Republican proposes a four-year bill that would ban taxes on something most people use. hmmmm....
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Re: Someone actually ...

What is even more interesting is how Democrats are always wanting to raise taxes. Republicans reduce taxes...how many times have Democrats reduced our taxes? Oh let me see JFK...yep. It has been a while.

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Re: Someone actually ...

said by statecop See Profile:
Democrats are always wanting to raise taxes. Republicans reduce taxes
Somebody has to repay the huge (usually military) debts run-up by all recent Republican administrations. Can you say "fiscal responsibility"?

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Re: Someone actually ...

said by jap See Profile:
said by statecop See Profile:
Democrats are always wanting to raise taxes. Republicans reduce taxes
Somebody has to repay the huge (usually military) debts run-up by all recent Republican administrations. Can you say "fiscal responsibility"?

What about the military debt that Clinton ran up? His was a completely useless debt, whereas now we have removed multiple threats in the world.

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Re: Someone actually ...

WE haven't removed anything, WE started WW III. We haven't seen anything but a cat playing with a mouse. Guess who the mouse is? We had a budget excess in 1999 for the first time in many years that was given to the richest in 2000. I didn't see one penny and yes I pay taxes. Gasoline has risen nearly a dollar in four years, chuck roast which was once 59 cents per pound is now nearly three dollars. Milk is climbing to $4 a gallon and eggs are looking like they will soon be $2 a dozen. Greenspan wants to cut SS and Congress wants to give corporations another huge financial boost.

Our problem is not in Iraq, it is in DC and the million dollar politicians we pay $20 grand each month to do nothing.

Be a referee and throw the bums out!
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Re: Someone actually ...

said by linicx See Profile:
WE haven't removed anything, WE started WW III. We haven't seen anything but a cat playing with a mouse. Guess who the mouse is? We had a budget excess in 1999 for the first time in many years that was given to the richest in 2000. I didn't see one penny and yes I pay taxes. Gasoline has risen nearly a dollar in four years, chuck roast which was once 59 cents per pound is now nearly three dollars. Milk is climbing to $4 a gallon and eggs are looking like they will soon be $2 a dozen. Greenspan wants to cut SS and Congress wants to give corporations another huge financial boost.

Our problem is not in Iraq, it is in DC and the million dollar politicians we pay $20 grand each month to do nothing.

Be a referee and throw the bums out!

We've captured a dictator, removed many high level officials, uncovered the UN Oil scandal, destroyed 2 governments, caused a nation to cease development of nuclear weapons, dissected multiple terrorist organizations, and more. WWIII has not started.

Not only that, but it's easy to create a budget excess when there's a little thing called the "Internet Boom". Now that boom has died off and tons of internet businesses failed, which resulted in a shift in our economy that started in 2000, which was still Clinton's era. Oil prices have risen, yet people said this war was about oil... that's funny, because shouldn't prices drop then?

Yes, politicians are corrupted most times, but remember who voted them into office in the first place.

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Re: Someone actually ...

said by Pake See Profile:
We've captured a dictator, removed many high level officials, uncovered the UN Oil scandal, destroyed 2 governments, caused a nation to cease development of nuclear weapons, dissected multiple terrorist organizations, and more. WWIII has not started.

boy is someone naive.
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said by linicx See Profile:
WE haven't removed anything, WE started WW III.
How quickly Democrats start blaming the US for starting all this...

Has everybody forgotten that OBL and his terrorist friends are responsible for starting "WWIII"? Blame the terrorists and Islamic fundamentalists before blaming the US.
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April 24th, @08:43PM

Re: Someone actually ...

said by Nerdtalker See Profile:
Has everybody forgotten that OBL and his terrorist friends are responsible for starting "WWIII"? Blame the terrorists and Islamic fundamentalists before blaming the US.
That attitude is what angers me the most. Sometimes I wonder who is more dangerous, the American left that continues to defend and praise scum like Saddam, or the Islamic terrorists.
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Re: Someone actually ...

Point taken
But
What OBL and his terrorist friends are doing is really starting to get on my nerves. I don't like to put down/hate any group/religion but what the followers of Islam are doing is making things uncomfortable all over [no flames, please, I know that we aren't seeing all followers & that everybody is different]

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April 25th, @09:54PM

Keep America the number one target for Terrorists. Bush/Cheney 2004

jap
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Yup. It's called political posturing. No taxes, just "fees" instead. All hail (heil) anti-tax idols!

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WOW

If I lived in AZ I would reelect him just for that.
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impactstudio

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Must be nice...

Of course, Canadian BB services are both GST (federal) and PST (provincial) taxable; perhaps the extra money that the federal government rolls into BB development is why our BB services are (generally) superior to those available in America and why a significantly higher percentage of our population uses them - interesting to see what happens, though.
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April 24th, @01:27PM

Re: Must be nice...

said by impactstudio See Profile:
perhaps the extra money that the [Canadian] federal government rolls into BB development is why our BB services are (generally) superior to those available in [U.S.of] America

Gee, ya think? That's far to complex a concept for most US citizens to get their minds around.
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April 24th, @01:47PM

said by impactstudio See Profile:
Of course, Canadian BB services are both GST (federal) and PST (provincial) taxable; perhaps the extra money that the federal government rolls into BB development is why our BB services are (generally) superior to those available in America and why a significantly higher percentage of our population uses them - interesting to see what happens, though.

You seem to think that States would use sales tax generated over the internet to develop broadband?? FYI - That is not the way it works down here. We don't live in a socialist society like Canada/Europe and for a damn good reason. If the US was set up like that then the internet you like to surf would have never even been developed by the true innovators/developers of the world, which are "greedy" capitalistic companies. These types of companies can NOT thrive under communist or strict socialist policies. Thankfully for the inefficient societies of the world the USA does not mind the leaching of our technology so your standard of living can improve. I wonder if other countries can even appreciate the contributions the USA has made to the world considering the superiority complex most socialist countries exhibit.

Just because Canada supposedly has a superior broadband system doesn't mean sh*t. Since, of course, everyone in your society was forced to give part of their income to make it so.

Here in the United States of America this type of infrastructure grows naturally like money on trees at no cost from redistribution of wealth. This is what scares the hell out of the world. Why? I have no f-ing idea. They can only complain about the USA and make a sport out of hating us.

Anyway, not like I really care but boasting about the effects of inefficient socialist policies have been annoying the hell out of me lately and I am sick of people pushing this bs (like US lberals) so I thought I would flame you for the hell of it. Peace

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said by Sunburn See Profile:
You seem to think that States would use sales tax generated over the internet to develop broadband?? FYI - That is not the way it works down here. We don't live in a socialist society like Canada/Europe and for a damn good reason.
right on! here in the USA socialism won't work! we like it when the ENRON, WORLDCOM, and TYCO's defraud employees and the general public out of their retirement funds. We love it when no-bid contracts are given out to companies like Halliburton because it is the vice president's former gig. We can't get enough of the way we give Israel billions of dollars a year for military hardware that's used to oppress the Palestinian people and incite such intense hatred of the USA that terrorist groups form to attack us. That's the way we like it and Europe and Canada are just idiots.
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Re: Must be nice...

said by morbo See Profile:
... incite such intense hatred of the USA that terrorist groups form to attack us.
You mean they didn't hate us on 9-10-2001?
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Good Idea, Sen. McCain.

He should have included this on his platform when he was running for president.
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What a joke!

If Congress wanted to actually DO something useful, instead of just wanting to "look busy" they would 1-) repeal the law that allows corporations to reneg on paying for prescriptions for senior retirees over the age of 65. 2-) put a leash on hospitals who own HMOs and hire quacks; 3-Cap pharmaceuticals and a few other basic living items such as rent, food and utilities at 1990 prices and tell the corporate suits to tighten their money belt.

They will do none of the above until the public demands it.
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April 24th, @02:02PM

Re: What a joke!

said by linicx See Profile:
If Congress wanted to actually DO something useful, instead of just wanting to "look busy" they would 1-) repeal the law that allows corporations to reneg on paying for prescriptions for senior retirees over the age of 65. 2-) put a leash on hospitals who own HMOs and hire quacks; 3-Cap pharmaceuticals and a few other basic living items such as rent, food and utilities at 1990 prices and tell the corporate suits to tighten their money belt.

They will do none of the above until the public demands it.

You seem to have forgotten or more likely never even looked at and the history of communism. LoL Yeah right! like the public is going to demand the USA convert to a failed communist model. You are definitely insane if you believe that.

Cap pharmaceutical companies? Are you really that clueless? or can you explain the great benefit that this would produce? What the heck makes you think pharmaceutical companies would even produce or innovate new drugs once you restrict their ability to make a profit? Can't you see the friggen light?

Man, this is a great example/case study of the backwards logic that liberals promote.

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Re: What a joke!

Yea... if pharmaceutical companies had their profits capped, how would they have an incentive to produce drugs that the rest of the world makes knock offs of?
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April 24th, @02:42PM

said by linicx See Profile:
Cap pharmaceuticals....
Wanna know something funny: You know those expensive drugs that most people can't afford, there are usually cheaper and proven safer alternatives that doctors won't prescribe simply because they aren't the "latest and [supposedly] greatest" drugs. ie:
for 30 pills:
Nexium $139.79
ranitidine $30.00

ranitidine does the same thing and works just as well for most people; but try to get your doctor to write a script for prescription strength ranitidine, and you'll probably get a goofy look from them.

Most of the problem with the medical system today is that it's a lot of people spending other peoples money so they don't take into consideration actual costs; capping prices isn't going to do anything to discourage this behavior and in fact might even make it worse.
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I've lived long enough to remember watching the McCarthy hearings on B&W television; and I know what it feels like to spend $1000 for life saving drugs because I do it every month. I know what it is like to fight doctors who are owned by hospitals and hospital owned HMOs for decent care. I know what if feels like to be mis-diagnosed by doctors who should have never been licensed and I know what the pharmacy game is.

If you have no allergies and do not have a life threatening illness, generic drugs is the way to go. If you even have an allergy to thread, or if you have a chronic disease, taking generic drugs is risky. If you value your life stay away from physician groups and HMOs and find a doctor who can afford food and a private practice.
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woody7
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Sen McCain has always been like that, kind of like a liberal repub or conservative dem....he doesn't like waste and doesn't like a lot of taxation...
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Why is it that....

Everytime that I see something out of Washington that I like, John McCain's name is attached to it.

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said by zabes63 See Profile:
Everytime that I see something out of Washington that I like, John McCain's name is attached to it.

same here. that guy would've been the best president. is it too late??
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Re: Why is it that....

said by morbo See Profile:
said by zabes63 See Profile:
Everytime that I see something out of Washington that I like, John McCain's name is attached to it.

same here. that guy would've been the best president. is it too late??

LoL, arn't you voting for Kerry? Thinking about a flip flop?

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Re: Why is it that....

said by Sunburn See Profile:
said by morbo See Profile:
said by zabes63 See Profile:
Everytime that I see something out of Washington that I like, John McCain's name is attached to it.

same here. that guy would've been the best president. is it too late??

LoL, arn't you voting for Kerry? Thinking about a flip flop?

I vote for the best person for the job. If the choice is Bush or Kerry I pick Kerry. If the choice was Bush or McCain I pick McCain. If the choice was McCain or Kerry I pick McCain.

The most important thing is that I'd pick anyone other than the moron we have now.
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People are idiots. Just look at those that supported and continue to support the war in Iraq. There is no nor has there ever been a Al Qaeda / Iraq connection.

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April 24th, @11:46PM

said by Sunburn See Profile:
said by morbo See Profile:
said by zabes63 See Profile:
Everytime that I see something out of Washington that I like, John McCain's name is attached to it.

same here. that guy would've been the best president. is it too late??

LoL, arn't you voting for Kerry? Thinking about a flip flop?

Kerry, 50 cents a gallon gas tax, 900 billion in new taxes in the first 100 days. we cant afford kerry nor would i ever vote for bush EVER. Doesnt leave much of a choice. whoever gets in will probably be a clusterfu*k.
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Re: Why is it that....

said by dvd536 See Profile:
said by Sunburn See Profile:
said by morbo See Profile:
said by zabes63 See Profile:
Everytime that I see something out of Washington that I like, John McCain's name is attached to it.

same here. that guy would've been the best president. is it too late??

LoL, arn't you voting for Kerry? Thinking about a flip flop?

Kerry, 50 cents a gallon gas tax, 900 billion in new taxes in the first 100 days. we cant afford kerry nor would i ever vote for bush EVER. Doesnt leave much of a choice. whoever gets in will probably be a clusterfu*k.

So vote for me and shut up.

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Re: Why is it that....

furlonium: ironic how your icon is Stewie! Vote for Stewie!

»www.foxhome.com/stewie/

^ change governor to president ^

on a side note: if it was Stewie Vs Bush Bs Kerry Vs McCain
i'd either go mccain or stewie
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