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join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | And who ... will watch the watch dogs? | |
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Xizer
join:2004-02-05
New York, NY | Re: And who ... That is very simple, my friend.
The watch dog watchers will watch the watch dogs. | |
| | | bamabrad
join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | Re: And who ... And I'm gonna guess that will be up to our federal government to babysit this , too. | |
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Neyland85
join:2003-02-04
North Augusta, SC
 ·AT&T Southeast
| said by Xizer  :That is very simple, my friend. The watch dog watchers will watch the watch dogs. And who watches the watch dog watchers to ensure the watch dog watchers are watching the dogs? | |
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Chuckles
Premium
join:2006-03-04
Saint Paul, MN | Re: And who ... That is very simple my friend... | |
| jc100
join:2002-04-10
 ·RoadRunner Cable
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August 31st, @10:45AM
| Questions So how will these supposed filters identify piracy? Say someone logs on p2p and downloads something legal. Will it flag it as being illegal? Let's assume it does, wouldn't that constitute data mining since it's trying to determine what you are downloading? I thought data mining was illegal? I guess this bill is trying to legislate that. Now here's the big question, if it flags your account wrongfully and you get a letter and warning, can you sue government / Isp or are both being given immunity. After all, the excuse our filter works 99 percent of the time doesn't do the 1 percent good. A cop can't arrest 99 percent of the people successfully and shoot the other 1 percent because he or she forgot their handcuffs. Just curious. My guess, the stupid politicians will try to give the ISPS immunity like ATT and those other companies are dying to get about now. Likewise, they probably will write some clause saying even though they are enforcing the law, we can't demand compensation when it goes awry. A thought here, is the U.S. going to hell in a handbasket lately (assuming we're next for this crap)? | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | Porn Porn is illegal in australia? GEEZ! | |
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vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA
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August 31st, @10:51AM
| Re: Porn I don't think it said that.
Edit: Oops, nevermind, it does. Geez is right. | |
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Elf Wizard
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| i think the illegal part is about the piracy and not the porn.
but reguardless it isnt the job of the ISP to be the parent(in the case of porn) or the police officer(in the case of Piracy). for example as a UPS Employee it isnt my job to insure that nobody is sending drugs and package bombs nore can the company be held liable for a delivered package bomb.
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| | | jc100
join:2002-04-10
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Porn Kearn,
I have to disagree with your example. By contrast, you gave a bad example. If USPS delivered a bomb, they would be liable. USPS is responsible for checking their packages to ensure illegal and dangerous contents are not being mailed. The USPS does it and I can't imagine UPS not. Hence, while your point was good, your example is not. | |
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vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA
·Comcast
| Re: Porn Actually the USPS isn't liable for much, and while I'm not an attorney, I don't believe they are liable for delivering a bomb. I know they are statutorially sheilded from liability for damage/loss to your mail (if they fail to deliver a letter or package, you have no recourse), and I'm guessing (though I don't know) that the statute would protect them against damage to third parties. | |
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join:2002-04-10
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Porn Vp,
You are far from correct. First, if I buy insurance on my package and it fails to arrive or is delivered damaged, I am compensated. However, if I fail to buy insurance, then I am out of luck. Yet, that has nothing to do with delivering dangerous ordinances. I guarantee you the USPS has xray machines for its packages, as I am sure every other postal entity. As the phrase goes, ignorance of the law is not an excuse. Therefore, playing dumb to what you deliver is also not one. Companies can be held reliable if proper safety measures aren't in place. While I am not a lawyer myself, I promise you this is true. | |
| | | | | | dentman42
join:2001-10-02
Columbus, OH
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: Porn said by jc100 :Vp, You are far from correct. First, if I buy insurance on my package and it fails to arrive or is delivered damaged, I am compensated. However, if I fail to buy insurance, then I am out of luck. Yet, that has nothing to do with delivering dangerous ordinances. I guarantee you the USPS has xray machines for its packages, as I am sure every other postal entity. As the phrase goes, ignorance of the law is not an excuse. Therefore, playing dumb to what you deliver is also not one. Companies can be held reliable if proper safety measures aren't in place. While I am not a lawyer myself, I promise you this is true. Yes, the USPS x-rays their packages. That's why it's possbile to mail order a bunch of photographic film and have it delivered in still usable condition. Duh-uh. | |
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join:2002-04-10
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Porn You have to declare what it is captain obvious. If its photos, you have to state that. Otherwise, you will received blank negatives. Why do you think if you got through the airport you tell them you have film in your bag? The same goes for mailing a package. You tell them there is film in it, and obviously, they will use other means I am sure. | |
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johnarama
join:2007-02-15
France
| silly kangaroos! Efforts to monitor piracy are bound to fail. How can they combat the rise of file-sharing networks that encrypt exchanges? They represent the new breed of file-sharing, and there's several quality apps that do this, such as GigaTribe: »www.gigatribe.com | |
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