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Springfield, MO | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD Nexus 7 is the clear winner there for a 7" and the Kindle for 9" | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD Let's give it a couple of months to let sales make that determination. There are several 10" Android tablets the "beat" the iPad, yet the iPad is number one. | |
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join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD 1 word
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sales numbers dont always mean a better product
funny how apple fans flip flop on this all the time for there computers but for the ipod and ipad its sales mean its great | |
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join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD Apple's laptops and desktops were the number 1 selling line of both categories in the US last quarter. The many brands of Windows PCs may still sell more total volume but that's a pretty good increase from even just a few years ago and it will only continue. The PC market is shrinking while the Mac is continuing to grow. Oh, and where does market research find a lot of those lost PC sales are going? To the iPad. | |
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join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD still more total PCs sold world wide then any thing
untill Apple starts letting people make clones they can take there over priced hardware and stuff it | |
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kudos:2 | said by elios:sales numbers dont always mean a better product They do in every manner that is relevant to businesses offering products and services. | |
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Springfield, MO | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD said by openbox9:said by elios:sales numbers dont always mean a better product They do in every manner that is relevant to businesses offering products and services. niche products would like a word with you
because monster cables sells more does not make them better then say bluejeans cables | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD You are missing the point. A better product to you does not necessarily mean a better product for the market. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD Umm, ok. Which does a majority of the market see the most value in? Which does a majority of the market believe is the best purchase? | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD said by openbox9:Umm, ok. Which does a majority of the market see the most value in? Which does a majority of the market believe is the best purchase?
Your argument completely ignores marketing. While product performance is an indicator in sales numbers, marketing can be far more important. Especially in a "lifestyle" product like a tablet. Like Bose and Monster, Apple is a master at marketing; they are able to get customers to pay a premium for a product that has the same (or less) capability and functionality than products that cost half as much or less. I, for one, admire them for that but I don't allow myself the delusion that their products are better. In some ways they are, and in some ways they aren't.
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kudos:2 | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD I'm not ignoring marketing at all. My point is that tech specs tend to really only matter to uber geeks, while compatibility , usability, and yes, style, matter to consumers. Good marketing strategies are all about playing those strengths. Who cares about a quad core processor over a dual core if the devices are at least equally functional. Or are we going back to the silly MHz wars from the last decade? | |
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kudos:7 | said by CSRDUDE :So Toyota better than Buggati Gotcha' makes perfect sense. Yup. I can't take my family of 5 anywhere in a Buggati. | |
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| said by openbox9:Let's give it a couple of months to let sales make that determination. There are several 10" Android tablets the "beat" the iPad, yet the iPad is number one.
So your logic is that because it sells better, it is a "better" tablet? Thanks for providing me my daily dosage of derp for the day. | |
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join:2003-11-11
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kudos:1 | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD If Apple sells a truckload of them, what do they care? It's not about putting out the best product, it's about a corporation making a profit.
The corporate suits at Apple couldn't care less about the musings of Internet forum members. Quarterly reports & profits are what matters.
If they sell the heck out of them going into the holiday season, it's a triumph. If they end up giving them away like BlackBerry Playbooks, you can call it a flop.
Something tells me they'll sell a boat load of them. If that's the case, then epic win for Apple. Tech specs be damned...
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kudos:2 | No, my logic is that because it sells better, more demand exists and is therefore a better product for more consumers. Obviously, "better" is relevant and Apple's marketing department will likely continue crushing the competition. Personally, I do not like iOS devices and will continue enjoying my Android-based table and phones, but that's not what we're discussing. | |
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kudos:2 | Total MINI Fail.
784k pixels on a nearly 8" screen.
Nexus 7 has 1 million pixels.
It all about the pixels.
Oh and it costs less. Oh and its quadcore.
Just think about this: If it was anything else besides iOS & Apple you would have reviewers saying these specs blow, especially for the price. | |
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join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD Main reason for the resolution is no doubt so existing apps will work on day 1 as it's the same resolution as the iPad 1 and 2. I'm sure the 2nd or 3rd gen will introduce retina displays to it. | |
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No way? Really? You mean to tell me they're gonna release the same tablet again, with "new" 1 year old technology, and give it a premium price? Whoda thunk it!
Seriously, the 32GB iPad mini (the "mini" is for miniature specs) is priced $180 higher than the 32GB Nexus 7 and it has inferior hardware. | |
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join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD You talk like you've been personally insulted by what was announced. If you don't see any value in it then don't buy it. | |
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kudos:7 | Note: The Nexus 7 comes in 8GB and 16GB versions. There is no 32GB version. | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD Yes, there is a 32GB version. It's supposed to be "released" soon I'm sure, but people have been able to buy it at Staples already. | |
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people have been able to buy the updated nexus 7 already at some staples stores. | |
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join:2005-05-02
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| Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD said by mikedz4:I figured the prices would be around $250 but I forgot this is apple.
Apple has themselves in a bit of a pickle here with the price. The simple fact is they can't be competitive (even though manufacturing costs are such that the could) because they can't price it lower than the iPod Touch which is what they'd have to do! Just like the iPad is a giant iPod Touch, the iPad Mini is a big iPod Touch. | |
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join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD Hahaha, wow, i didn't even think about that. I figured they were pricing themselves out of the segment (they are) but people will still buy it... | |
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join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: Comapre the iPad Mini; Google Nexus 7; Kindle Fire HD said by michieru:No it's not.
1. There are more options based on the chart provided to fit more range of users who might use a tablet as the primary machine.
2. Weight and size goes to iPad by just a few points but numbers are numbers.
3. iPad has more memory and it's available if you so desire the space.
4. No rear facing camera on Nexus.
5. 4G option available.
6. One extra color for iPad.
and the only one that matters of any of that is HDD size
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kudos:1 | Nice, but pricey Its about $80 bucks to expensive in my opinion.
For the price of a mini and a smart cover you could get a new "old" iPad2. Or if you want to compare it to a Kindle Fire HD, you could almost get 2 for the price of a iPad mini and case. | |
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Sandy, UT | Re: Nice, but pricey Screen resolution is disappointing. Just a blah type release
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join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | I will Take the Nexus 7. Screw that iOS garbage. Over rated and over priced. | |
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Springfield, MO | Re: An 8" Screen vs 7" screens for the others the fail is it low res which with the bigger screen means bigger pixels | |
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| bad product year.. Apple's ending the year on a sour note.. there are too many negatives to deal with at such a high price. From the lower spec processor to the proprietary dock port.. still no expandable memory card slots... What is Apple thinking?!?
The tablets coming out next year will have SDXC slots boosting the capacity from hundreds of gigabytes to terabytes (eventually). 2013's gonna be the year of the SDXC tablets! | |
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kudos:2 | Mac mini and MBP only good updates The iPad mini is a ripoff and the iMac thinness is a solution that didn't have a problem. I was looking for a retina iMac. Who gives crap that it is thinner...the base is still huge. New Mini is nice as is the resolution of the 13" retina MBP. | |
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Springfield, MA | I might get one I may get one. I am considering getting the 16 GB iPad mini with LTE radio and adding it to my Verizon ShareEverything plan.
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Typical Apple always overpricing their crap. The 8.9 inch Kindle Fire HD is cheaper than this. | |
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| | | Re: Typical Apple If they were to price this at $229 they'd slaughter the competition. But at $329, who besides some tattooed hipster douchebags will buy this this? | |
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join:2005-05-02
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| Re: Typical Apple said by LondonOntGuy:If they were to price this at $229 they'd slaughter the competition.
Maybe, but only because it's Apple, not because it's a superior device. I love the crisp display on my Nexus 7 - that 7" tablet has higher resolution that the iPad 2/iPad Mini. Not quite a "retina display", but crisp nonetheless. | |
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kudos:1 | The mini It is too expensive. That is all. | |
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@65.87.105.x | What you all seem to forget Is that the iPad mini will sell like crazy not because of tech specs but, because of the app library. Apple even touched on this when they compared the mini to the nexus 7. What good is a cheap tablet with no apps or piss poor apps at that?
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| | | Re: What you all seem to forget said by ort :Is that the iPad mini will sell like crazy not because of tech specs but, because of the app library. Apple even touched on this when they compared the mini to the nexus 7. What good is a cheap tablet with no apps or piss poor apps at that?
It's the apps people...
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|  DragasoniWe're All Mad HerePremium
join:2001-12-14
Palm Bay, FL | I tried an Android phone for 2 months; worst phone I ever owned. Force close apps, constant lag, major lag on the keyboard when texting, random reboots, huge random battery drains, and the phone would often freeze solid as I was answering a phone call. Maybe jelly bean is better, but gingerbread was just awful.
I sold it and got an iPhone 4 which has been flawless in the 18 months I've owned it. The apps look and work better on iOS and there are more available. Plus you don't have to root it, hack it, or mess around with it to get it do certain things. I realize the iPhone does less, but it does everything I need and it does it 100% of the time. There were days that it took a lot of will power not to smash my Android with a hammer; I almost did a few times.
My iPhone has never even gotten me slightly upset in any way. I feel like a got a great value out of it. Sure, it was double the price of my Android, but it's kept my blood pressure down, and you can't put a price on that.
Bottom line, if constantly screwing with the operating system and tweaking is your thing, great, get an Android. Different people have different preferences and there's nothing wrong with that. But don't talk down on people like me who just want the phone to work without having to mess with it. I have better things to do with my time and don't need any added stress in my life.
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