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That aside though, I find my Ipod touch to be a handy little device, so I assume Iphone must be more so. Both have become more handy with the App store release though. | |
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| Re: Could have been alot more Verizon doesnt have visual voicemail, when will people realize this. Also, their service area, customer support, and the way their network handles calls is totally different.
ATT totally dropped the ball with not only how much they had per store, but also misinformation about contracts, plans, and other unforgivable ignorance. My friend switched to ATT to get iPhone when his phone died 2 weeks ago, and the person at the store told him that in order to buy an iphone he'd have to send the phone back and cancel the contract, waiting days without a phone till he got the approval. In all my years dealing with ATT i have never once ever heard them say this to anyone. Why the hell would they turn down someone wanting to buy an iPhone??? How widespread is the "you can't get an iPhone" ignorance? | |
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| Re: Could have been alot more said by Johnny :News from a year ago: Apple went to Verizon and was turned down. No, Apple went to Verizon with very rigid terms and Verizon said "no way" so Apple walked away. | |
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Shipment X is to be sold on Firday.
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| Re: Could have been alot more I get cell service in some below ground subway stations (no they don't have any service in there active yet) in NYC and i have ATT, so i dunno what you're talking about. Also, when i was in san juan, i could call home no problem, and send MMS. If i'm not mistaken ATT had the first national wireless network. They have more towers per customer than anyone else, plus 2 other carriers lease cell tower traffic (tmoible, virginmobile) from ATT in their respective coverage areas. | |
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Granted your phones make a difference, but it is completely unacceptable when I am traveling on the metro system (which is outside over 95% of the time and I can't stay on a call for the 25 min trip. | |
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| Lets be clear here. The activation issues came from the iTunes servers which is owned by Apple. My sister got 3G iPhone and showed me her AT&T account was already setup just that she had to wait for iTunes to start working again. I didn't believe her until I connected my iPod and couldn't make and purchases.
Trust me that they had enough iPhones in stock. They just have to spread it over a few days to keep up the hype. | |
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| Re: Hmm said by tc1uscg :said by Ricky Smith :Yet all these people out there keep complaining how no one will buy it or how useless it is the numbers say otherwise Yeah but it proves one thing. Even though it had problems, there are idiots who will still buy just because of it being a name. Stupid is what stupid does. nuff said. Wow.... an awful lot of idiots then, huh? 1,000,000 in the first 3 days... and counting.
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| Re: Hmm You know, i'm getting a bit sick of people bashing those folks who want a really useful and innovative mobile device. I want an iPhone. Because apple made it? No. Because ATT carries it? Hell no. Because it's what i've been looking for for years, and will give me information on the go i've never been able to have before? YES YES YES!
Trendy? Arguable. Something that will make my life easier? Absolutely.
If you knew me you'd know that i do not care about my image, only about how efficient & healthy my life is. iPhone will help me with both. Welcome to the 21st century! | |
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| said by tc1uscg :said by Ricky Smith :Yet all these people out there keep complaining how no one will buy it or how useless it is the numbers say otherwise Yeah but it proves one thing. Even though it had problems, there are idiots who will still buy just because of it being a name. Stupid is what stupid does. nuff said. Let me guess - you bought a Windows OS because of the name, right? | |
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| That makes no sense. If the iPhone had been the same as those shitty phones with 80 cryptic buttons on the front and a teeny screen whose text looks like the first-generation Pong games, nobody would have bought it for the "name."
You are implying that it's not a better phone, but just an Apple phone. That sounds exactly like the reason that everyone buys Windows. It sucks but it's Microsoft. | |
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| Re: Hmm It lets you use it without having to carry the instruction manual around with you.
I'm looking at my (non-cell) cordless phone now - let's see...
- Three buttons across the top underneath the screen - "Menu", "Redial", and "Select." Then a green button with a handset icon, labeled "Flash", a red button with a handset icon not labeled with anything, and a four-way toggle button in the center labeled with an up arrow, a down arrow, the word "ID" on the right, and what looks like an open book on the left.
If you press right ("ID"), does it tell you the last caller ID? Nope - the screen says "New:98 Total:100." If you press right again, it does nothing. By trying every possible direction you discover that pressing "down" shows the most recent caller ID. If you press "up" instead, you get the oldest caller ID.
If you press "Down" or "Up" BEFORE pressing "Right", then the ringer sounds and continues to sound until you press the red button. Got all that yet?
Now the Menu button - "Room Monitor", "Handset Setup", and more of a list of unknown items. Above the menu button it also says "clear", as if there is a second function "clear" that somehow can be invoked.
The "Select" button, which also has a little envelope icon above it as a second function, when pressed begins to play the recorded voicemail messages. So that's what "Select" means - "play the recorded voicemail messages."
The 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, *, and # keys have little arrow, double arrow, dot, and square box icons above them. No problem understanding that, eh?
Now I'd imagine adding camera, address book, web, email, SMS, and a QWERTY keyboard to all that mess and you have the CLASSIC ELECTRONIC GADGET of 1970 to 2007!!! This type of gadget's interface is also used in VCRs, laserdisk players, clock radios, car stereos and instrument panels, microwave ovens, etc. - anything where they could save money by not actually putting a knob on there, and making each key serve about 9 different purposes. How many people's VCR used to flash "12:00" because they had no idea which order to push the buttons in to set it?
So instead of changing the interface, out comes "On-screen programming", where you follow a series of hierarchical menus onscreen instead of trying to memorize 93 buttons.
Now, since it never occurred to any of these other cellphone makers, Apple comes out with a phone that you don't have to read an 85 page manual in four languages to find out which button to push to do something, or push a key once, twice or three times to generate a letter.
There's only one button on the front!!!
The same with the iPod - I just finished reading "Inside Steve's Brain", and it describes the design process for the iPod. There were music players that used the laptop hard drives, but again had numerous buttons on the front. Phil Schiller came up with the idea of a wheel that was context-sensitive to control volume while a song was playing, and to control selection while a song was not playing. Also, to sync the iPod all the user had to do is plug it into the computer - that's all. No programs to launch, no dragging and dropping files, nothing.
And the iPod was small and light compared to the others. It had one wheel on the front - that's all. No FM radio, no voice recorder, no wacky slots for memory sticks, none of that crap that makes a confusing mess.
Design - and I don't mean "form over function" - because design means not only exterior design but industrial design - is what Apple excels at. That is why this is a better phone, and why the iPod was a better music player. They go through hundreds of iterations of these things, and the CEO himself examines each one, before deciding on the design. I find it hard to believe that the CEO of the company that made my wireless phone ever looked at the interface or tried to make a call with it, and that is why it sucks ass. | |
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| Everywhere They also released this version worldwide, and only sold one million.
The first generation was only released in the US and sold 700,000.
* 2007: iPhone launches Friday evening in the US only, sells 700,000 units by COB Sunday
* 2008: iPhone 3G launches Friday morning in 21 countries, sells 1,000,000 units by COB Sunday
Is this actually good news for Apple? No Way!
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»www.tuaw.com/2008/07/14/did-appl···failure/
As I'm sure many of you have noticed, many of the applications from the App Store are crashing frequently. Basically, an app I want to launch opens a blank screen, pauses for a moment, and then drops me back to my home screen without so much as an apology.
You're probably, like me, thinking that it's a shame that so many developers rushed so quickly to make the App Store deadline and ended up putting out unstable applications. According to the development community, though, it's not their fault ... it's Apple's.
Anonymous developer sources are reporting that they've been poring over crash logs and discovering that the reported crash has nothing to do with their application. There's a growing consensus that Apple has released a highly unstable "final" version of the 2.0 firmware.
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| Re: May have been 10 M app downloads; but lots of problems said by TK Junk Mail :It may be months before the App store shakes out and Firmware fixes and APP fixes solve the problems. » www.tuaw.com/2008/07/14/did-appl···failure/As I'm sure many of you have noticed, many of the applications from the App Store are crashing frequently. Basically, an app I want to launch opens a blank screen, pauses for a moment, and then drops me back to my home screen without so much as an apology.
You're probably, like me, thinking that it's a shame that so many developers rushed so quickly to make the App Store deadline and ended up putting out unstable applications. According to the development community, though, it's not their fault ... it's Apple's.
Anonymous developer sources are reporting that they've been poring over crash logs and discovering that the reported crash has nothing to do with their application. There's a growing consensus that Apple has released a highly unstable "final" version of the 2.0 firmware.
I think the 2.0 firmware was rushed. I tried out the old iPhone 1.1.4, and it was very responsive with no lag in the interface at all. I'm on 2.0 on a 3G, and the lag makes it seem more like a Windows Mobile device. That, coupled with a few lockups, make me think it wasn't ready for prime time.
I like the iPhone, I don't understand Apple fanboyism. Maybe it's their size now that makes them rush out products, but between this and a new Macbook I have that frequently locks up I've been less than impressed after I got over their "wow" factor.
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I was thinking about getting this phone, but I didn't because I am afraid I would have to re-buy applications if I ever switched to a new/different iPhone. I was also concerned with the probability that I couldn't buy one application and put it on two phones that use the same Family account. (my girlfriend and I have two different iTunes accounts.)Of course, since it's new, I also wondered about free updates to fix bugs within the applications. | |
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| Re: Decisions Decisions said by Maggs :Go Prepaid! I never looked back! I spent $50 on service two years ago per month, now I spend $15 a month. x2
One is $20 every 3 months, the other is $25 every three months.
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| Re: worldwide? said by wcnghj :Is this worldwide or USA only? If it is worldwide, 1 million isn't that many. Well, Europe completely sold out. The U.S. sold it in nearly all ATT and Apple stores. It's a supply issue. Not a demand issue. Watch over the next month and see what the tallies are. I bet it will nearly double worldwide.
Also, given the fact that there were already over a million iphones out there and that this largely represented new customers buying in the U.S., I'd say there doing pretty darn well. Show me *any* other phone by any other manufacturer that cleared a million units worldwide in its first 3 days of launching. | |
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| Re: worldwide? said by bigskank :said by wcnghj :Is this worldwide or USA only? If it is worldwide, 1 million isn't that many. Well, Europe completely sold out. The U.S. sold it in nearly all ATT and Apple stores. It's a supply issue. Not a demand issue. Watch over the next month and see what the tallies are. I bet it will nearly double worldwide. Also, given the fact that there were already over a million iphones out there and that this largely represented new customers buying in the U.S., I'd say there doing pretty darn well. Show me *any* other phone by any other manufacturer that cleared a million units worldwide in its first 3 days of launching. That doesn't change the fact that the iPhone will never outsell either the Razr, Krazer (Or whatever the hell it was called), or the olde tyme startac. | |
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| Re: worldwide? said by Skeedatl :Maybe not but Apple already smokes all Windows Mobile devices combined in US sales and now they're gunning for RIM. Apple isn't in the shitty free phone with every pack of smokes market, they're in the smartphone market. Then they need to make a phone that is a smartphone. The day the iPhone becomes a smartphone - I'll probably buy it. | |
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| Haters & Lovers...Apple stock... said by Silvanos :All you haters are funny, why do you care if people want a phone that you don't want? funny I tell you. Actually what's funny is how many of the lovers tell those who don't want one that they "don't get it."
What's funnier still is all the hype around anything Apple. It's just hilarious to watch folks line up days beforehand. Same thing goes for game consoles in my book.
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| Re: Haters & Lovers...Apple stock... said by GlobalMind :said by Silvanos :All you haters are funny, why do you care if people want a phone that you don't want? funny I tell you. Actually what's funny is how many of the lovers tell those who don't want one that they "don't get it." What's funnier still is all the hype around anything Apple. It's just hilarious to watch folks line up days beforehand. Same thing goes for game consoles in my book. Oh and Apple stock down 1.3% this morning so apparently phone sales aren't necessarily helping the market. Well ... some people are more sensitive to the current economy -- and pay attention to trends -- and those people are probably tightening their belts big time. I may be wrong, but I looked at plans in my area, and it looked like $75 a month for the 450 minutes plan w/a two year commitment.
I have an old, and I mean OLD, cell with the cheapest plan I could find - $24 a month with limited minutes - because I simply don't have a need to call that many people from a mobile.
I think the rush to market may have a little to do with getting it out while there IS a market; releasing the product while the stimulus checks were still being mailed had to be a factor. And obviously the other 20 countries where the phone went on sale, given those 20 bought roughly half the 1 million, gave it a lukewarm reception.
The iTouch is compelling, but frankly? I have $300 to spend, but I've decided that money is needed elsewhere. There will always be people buying gadgets in this economy because it's nearing a have/have not split. But the days of rampant gadgetitis may be nearing a temporary end.
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| said by GlobalMind :said by Silvanos :All you haters are funny, why do you care if people want a phone that you don't want? funny I tell you. Actually what's funny is how many of the lovers tell those who don't want one that they "don't get it." What's funnier still is all the hype around anything Apple. It's just hilarious to watch folks line up days beforehand. Same thing goes for game consoles in my book. Oh and Apple stock down 1.3% this morning so apparently phone sales aren't necessarily helping the market. Really? Yikes! That must mean Apple, Inc. is ready to go out of business.
Oh wait, those were the headlines back in 1996. Hmmm....
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