And Here Come The Broadband Industry Job CutsWindstream, AT&T...and potentially industry whipping boy Charter... ( old news - 06:00PM Thursday Dec 04 2008) tags: dsl · business · cable · telco · trouble · consumers · Charter Pipeline · AT&T U-Verse · WindstreamWindstream today announced that the carrier will be eliminating 170 jobs -- or 2.3% of the DSL provider's workforce because of declining revenue at the carrier's landline business. Windstream spokesman David Avery says the cuts include involuntary layoffs, but they hope some employees will volunteer for buyouts. Windstream will have to pay $6 million in related severance in the fourth quarter. "We continue to experience revenue pressure from declining access lines. It's important to control expenses in this economy," Avery says. The company has roughly 3.1 million access lines and about $3.2 billion in annual revenues. The telco, which has about 7,400 employees, was formed in 2006 when Alltel spun off its traditional phone business and merged it with Irving, Texas-based Valor Communications. Alltel of course is now being acquired by Verizon in a deal estimated to be worth more than $28 billion. Windstream has been repeatedly rumored to be a major player in a new wave of rural phone company consolidation with plans to acquire Frontier, but tight credit might be making such moves more difficult. The announcement comes on the heels of AT&T's announcement earlier today that they'll be slashing 12,000 jobs, on top of the 4,500 jobs they cut back in April. The telco blamed "economic pressures," but clearly slow DSL additions and a dying landline market were heavy contributors. I'm also hearing from insiders that Charter is in the process of trimming some positions, something I should have more on shortly. Related:- Wednesday Evening Links
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  baineschile 2600 Premium join:2008-05-10 Sterling Heights, MI | Personally I blame Detroit and the Big 3 automakers. | |
|  nutcr0cker
join:2003-04-02 Chandler, AZ | Thank you Bush and the merry band of rethugluicans Thank you Bush and the merry band of rethugluicans. Great gift for Bush voters. Hope the state does not impose socialism on those laid off bush voters and force unemployment benefits on their families. | |
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join:2004-06-26 | Re: Thank you Bush and the merry band of rethugluicans There's no such thing as "Bush-hating bubble"; the hatred is quite real, I assure you  -- | |
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| I'm certainly not a fan of Bush but I think that's true. It's been a long time in the making.
However, the Republicans have controlled the White House for the vast majority of the last 40 years.
They controlled congress for the last 14 years.
Clearly they deserve most of the blame. | |
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join:2003-09-01 Lovington, NM | Re: Thank you Bush and the merry band of rethugluicans that's funny, I thought the Dems controlled congress for the last two years, and most of the 50 years preceding 1992? | |
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join:2008-01-23 Jewett City, CT | Re: Thank you Bush and the merry band of rethugluicans Sure. They deserve some blame too. | |
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| Top few reasons why we're _really_ in this mess:
1. Mortgage meltdown (housing went from $200k to $600k in a few years - now its 'correcting') 2. People living on credit - using item #1 as an ATM to pay for cars, vacation, TV's, etc because credit was cheap. 3. 'Best Shore' practices by most industries 4. People buying things they don't really need and charging it to item #2 5. Union mentality (sorry - I have been inside a GM plant) - getting paid $75k/year for janitor service is an insult. 6. U.S. Auto industry - still behind the times on so many fronts. No Biodiesel, few hybrid options, scrapped minivans, CEO's being paid obscene amounts (Toyota CEO makes $1 mil, Ford CEO makes $21mil... and Toyota isn't in the red). 7. Gov't spending money overseas (war, nation building, etc. vs. schools, infrastructure )
I'm sure there's more. | |
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| Re: Thank you Bush and the merry band of rethugluicans yep, there's more.
The Federal Reserve and it's monopoly on our money supply. It was supposed to protect the value of the dollar, but instead it is destroying it.
We need to get rid of our legal tender laws and our dependence on an organization that steals (taxes) us in stealth through inflation.
Don't forget the socailst programs Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Current liabilities from those 3 alone total somewhere in the ball park of $70 trillion. But hey, we need "free" healthcare! We can so afford it! 
And yes, Charter went from 3 divisions of support to two. I haven't heard of the number of employees that will be let go at the end of the year, however. | |
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| Re: Thank you Bush and the merry band of rethugluicans I thought controlled inflation (3%) is a foundation of a healthy, capitalist economy. Think about your home. What if you bought your home for $100,000 and at the end of 20 years, it was still only worth $100,000? Given typical mortgage interest rate, you'll pay ~$200,000 to own that $100,000 home and at the end of 20 years it will need a lot of upgrades and repairs. If you throw in property tax, it cost a lot to own that $100,000 home. However, if inflation increases the value of the home and your salary rises with a cost-of-living increase, the proportionate value of your debt continues to decrease and you finally get ahead and the home actually ends up being a very worthwhile investment.
I thought deflation was evil because then everyone goes broke because today's debt continues to be more valuable and you can never get rid of it.
Imagine if the trillions of dollars we owe (because of our government's overspending) continued to represent MORE rather than less. We'll probably never get out from under our debt as it is, deflation would assure that it would never be possible to get out from under it. | |
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| I agree, we are now at the point where those receiving govt sponsored benefits is greater then those who contribute. Here is some math, SSDI monthly check 1,167$/mo food stamps 556$/mo heap 265$/mo medicaid for family5,221/yr Amounts taken from govt provided information.
WOULD YOU WORK EITHER? | |
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join:2000-09-13 Hazelwood, MO | You do realize a vast majority of this is a direct result of the Clinton administration right? It was he who loosen the regulations that allowed for most of what is now going belly up. | |
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| Re: Thank you Bush and the merry band of rethugluicans said by Skippy25 :You do realize a vast majority of this is a direct result of the Clinton administration right? It was he who loosen the regulations that allowed for most of what is now going belly up. Possibly my favorite talking point from the right. You go ahead and keep spouting that nonsense. You'll have plenty of time out of power to reconsider. | |
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| Re: Thank you Bush and the merry band of rethugluicans Do a little study and you will find that the policies of an administration effect the country for about 10 years. Do some additional research and you will see that a vast majority of what is going on now is the DIRECT result of policies that the Clinton administration put into effect. You can hide your head in the sand, but that is not going to change the truths that are going on around you.
I am on neither side and think our entire government, election process, and judicial system is in need of a major overhaul. | |
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| Re: Thank you Bush and the merry band of rethugluicans said by Skippy25 :Do some additional research and you will see that a vast majority of what is going on now is the DIRECT result of policies that the Clinton administration put into effect. Absolutely wrong and among the more superficial analyses that have been proffered during the crisis, but also highly typical. And I've seen the "additional research." The talking point you have repeated is not in any way new. That the prior admin's policies contributed to the crisis is academic, but it is the current Administration's mind-numbingly careless and negligent handling of the economy that has landed us here. The Clinton admin might have an indirect effect on this crisis. The DIRECT impact has been courtesy of the current admin. -- The Monkey | |
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join:2005-04-13 Denton, TX | Erroneous (about Charter) Charter doesn't have employees. I've never saw anyone actually do work during the years I was a Charter customer, only lowest-bid contractors. | |
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| Re: Erroneous (about Charter) said by mobbo :Charter doesn't have employees. I've never saw anyone actually do work during the years I was a Charter customer, only lowest-bid contractors. Sorry pal, Charter does in fact have employees. All of the sytem techs, head-end techs, and broadband techs are Charter in house emplyees. Sure we use contractors, every cable company in the country does, but they are not low bid contractors. We employ companies that hire their own people, companies that are licensed and bonded. | |
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| its not the economy stupid... Windstream's problem is not the economy, it is the fact that their customer service is so bad that customers flock AWAY from them. I have nothing good to say about windstream at home or at work. Terrible service, the worst techs I have ever met, blatant liars, and the list goes on... | |
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@teksavvy.com | Re: its not the economy stupid... Exactly, as long as companies can 'buyout' their employees instead of just tossing them out the door, I don't think the economy is struggling. | |
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| I am one of the employees that has recently been let go. My last day is going to be January 2nd. I am the one person that actually tried to save custoemrs money that's why I was never doing my job the right way in their eyes. I was with the company for over 2 years and thought it was a great place to work.
I would have to agree with BRIGRAT. The reason is not the economy, it's the way most customer service reps treat customers. They want to give a customer crap they don't need instead of listen to them and diagnose their needs.
I am not mad at the company I am more disappointed in myself for not having a backup plan. Heck, I'm still young, I have plenty more time left to figure this life out. | |
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| Re: $1.00 since the congress is in fact the executive board of our government, and its borrowing trillions from overseas....will they take a pay cut to $1 themselves?
I've had the misfortune over the past couple of months to watch our congressmen in action (or inaction), and let me tell you that $1 would be too much! | |
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1 edit | America=down the toilet. literally. Ship them jobs overseas boys!
America is only losing thousands upon thousands of jobs every couple months now.
With our buddies in Washington throwing money around like its Monopoly money.
Also it doesn't help that Americas congress has pledged nearly $8 TRILLION dollars for the recession:
»kenthink7.blogspot.com/2008/11/u···ase.html
Where the hell is MY bailout? | |
|   Anon1
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| How we got here For all those blaming Bush, please supply your facts so we can check them. You are entitled to your own feelings, but not your own facts. Its been called the greatest crisis since the great depression. So where are the big stories on causes and culprits of todays housing collapse and how its pulling our economy down with it? Where is 60 minutes, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc on this story? Where are the Congressional hearings? Fact is it probably didnt have to be this way because there were warnings, lots of them. Doesnt that story deserve a lot more coverage than it has received? How did it snowball to the point where home loans were being handed out with little credit history required, interest only loans, NINJA loans (No Income, No Job), etc? History shows a decision made late in the 1990s by then President Bill Clinton, using an obscure banking regulation called the Community Reinvestment Act and the further empowering of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were catalysts. To increase home ownership Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were authorized to increase risky loans, known as sub-prime. Risky because it was likely they wouldnt be repaid. Pressure was applied to mortgage companies to go along and threats of punishment for those who didnt. Over time Fan and Fred would reacquire the mortgages; bundle them and offer them to commercial and investment financial institutions as Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS). The move to increase mortgages among lesser credit applicants was covered positively by many news outlets including the LA Times, Minorities Home Ownership Booms Under Clinton But Still Lags Whites by Ronald Brownstein May 31,1999 and the New York Times, Sept 30, 1999 Fannie Mae Eases Credit to Aid Mortgage Lending by Steven A. Holmes. However, others at the time foresaw problems on the horizon. Howard Husock writing in the Winter 2000 edition of the City Journal The Trillion-Dollar Bank Shakedown That Bodes Ill for Cities and on June 21, 2000, Fred L. Smith Jr. testified before the House Banking Committee on the upcoming likelihood of a Fannie-Freddie default which included this clairvoyant remark, The management and shareholders keep any profits, but the taxpayer will bear the bailout burden if their policies go sour. Mr. Smith was met with ridicule. More warnings came from the Wall Street Journal, Feb. 20, 2002 Fannie Mae Enron? and Money magazine Sept.1 2003, Taking on Fannie and Freddie without stronger regulation, argues Rep. Richard Baker (R), the mortgage giants present a huge market risk. The Bush administration tried repeatedly to further regulate Fan and Fred; a story in The New York Times of Sept 11, 2003 by Stephen Labaton reported one instance, New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. But there was stiff opposition during Congressional hearings from Democrats Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Gregory Meeks, Charles Schumer and Maxine Waters to name a few. This period in history is replete with Democrats complaining about any further regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They simply saw no problems. Housing was growing fast and Republican efforts were seen as trying to throw cold water on the party. Things were going so well Franklin Raines then CEO of Fannie Mae was getting large bonuses and doling out cash to well connected politicians, as reported in the Wall Street Journal in an updated Oct. 4, 2004 piece once again entitled Fannie Mae Enron?. In 2005 the Republican controlled Senate Banking Committee, adopted a bill to impose tighter regulation on Fannie and Freddie, with all Republicans voting for it. But the Democrats voted against it in committee and killed it on the floor. An October 18, 2008 story in the National Journal, When Fannie and Freddie Opened the Floodgates, recalls the story. On May 24 2006 in the Washington Post we read Study Finds Extensive Fraud at Fannie Mae. Estimates indicated that there was a $9 billion misstatement of earnings and accounting irregularities between 2000-2004. Fortune magazine ran The Fall of Fannie Mae on January 24, 2006 also on the accounting fraud. Within a year the crash began hitting Main Street. The blame game began but its the average American who is paying the price. The sited articles here are just a sample of what can be searched on the internet and a quick visit to YouTube keyword Fannie Mae can also be revealing. The fall of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is larger than the fall of Enron, Tyco, WorldCom and Global Crossing combined. Yet much of our highly partisan main stream news media has no interest in pursuing this story. And have you seen any hearings about this on Capital Hill over the last two years? No. Its obvious why. Democrats since 2006 have controlled both houses of congress and could call them at any time. It appears the desire for power overrides almost anything else in politics. While I do not blame every elected official with a (D) beside their name, the irony here is weve just elevated more of those to greater power whose judgment was to protest the warnings; and I wonder what the price for this will ultimately be. Feeling hopeful?
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| Re: How we got here Probably the only people who would buy this steaming pile of horseshit would be the right wing agitators who are trying to rewrite history to blame this economic downturn on lefties and poor blacks who we all know are the cause of all problems in the world.
Still I'll post a few links in case there are people of good faith who might actually be influenced by this (as opposed to people of bad faith who will immediately believe it because they want a scapegoat).
»www.federalreserve.gov/newsevent···203a.htm
»www.prospect.org/cs/articles?art···e_crisis | |
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| Re: How we got here said by asdfdfdfdfdfdf :
Probably the only people who would buy this steaming pile of horseshit would be the right wing agitators who are trying to rewrite history to blame this economic downturn on lefties and poor blacks who we all know are the cause of all problems in the world. That's funny. It has always been the lefties and poor that wanted the government to step in and make home ownership, you know, the American dream, affordable for the poor.
While it certainly is a good thought that everyone has a home. The right would rather people to afford it.
Now, it looks as if health care reform is on it's way and certainly the medical industry is going to need a bail for their loss to accommodate this program.
The good news is, after we have hugged a tree and loved everyone, when the shit hits the fan with health care. We will have the comfort in blaming the republicans.
To Stay On Topic:
Well support positions are really flooded with people. Help desk, tinkerers, hobbyist, etc. However, I did come across The Top 10 Hardest Jobs to Fill. -- If you are having half as much fun as I am, then I must be having twice the fun than you are. Do The Math! | |
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| Re: How we got here I'm not going to let this go, though it is off topic, because it is an insidious historical revisionism going on and it can't go uncontested.
This problem is not a result of poor people wanting homes. Firstly the idea that poor people are much more likely to default on loans is not true. Whether people default on loans isn't tied to whether they are rich or poor but rather to whether the loan, however much it is, has some relationship to their means. A poor man in a reasonable loan for a starter home is much less likely to default than a rich man swimming in massive debt(keep this in mind when I discuss the enormous leveraged bets that the big name investment firms were making; leverage=debt and it is a major part of the equation in understanding how massive firms could unravel so quickly). The affluent, who are also up to their eyeballs in debt in this country, along with nearly every business, default as well. Everyone in this country lives above their means, not just the poor. The fact that we are having to bail out the top of the pile to keep the economy from collapsing is proof of this. If it was just the poor we would let the poor drown and everyone else would be cruising along comfortable as you please. We are a debtor nation and everyone from the top to the bottom lives high on the hog swimming in debt. Many of the homes flooding the market are not homes to poor people, they are half-million dollar+ homes bought by people who thought home prices would keep going up and expected to buy and roll homes a year later for a big return to get into an even bigger home to keep up with the joneses because we are a country obsessed by economic status. Remember all these people were making a lot of money and everyone thought the orgy would go on forever, as people always do in a bubble.
Loans were made and then securitized and sold off to others so the loan originator had no concern about whether a loan could be repaid. They made their money regardless. Not surprisingly when you create a world where the loan originator can pawn most of the risk off on others the incentive is to get everyone's dog and the fleas on the dogs ass into a loan. This isn't poor people causing this. It is greed without oversight and the poor weren't the ones making unfathomable shitloads of money in this orgy. Lots of brilliant mathematical minds insisted that these packages were low risk(they had models that no one understood to prove it). The ratings agencies, who have enormous conflicts of interest that no one seemed to give a damn about, were paid to sign off on this. Investment houses were leveraged up the wazoo. No external force was watching and regulating this because markets are capable of taking care of themselves and everyone was swimming in money.
The community reinvestment act didn't force investment houses that weren't even under the cra to get involved in highly leveraged bets on mortgage securities. Most of this activity and the enormous leverage behind it was happening in the unregulated areas of the economy and it grew drastically over the handful of years just before it all blew up. Uncontrolled greed caused this, just as it has caused the bubbles of the past. This all happened because the financial wizards were making shitloads of money building a ponzi scheme. It is a result of unregulated greed and the idea that markets can police and correct themselves, an idea that even alan greenspan no longer has much faith in. | |
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| Re: How we got here Great post. Blaming it all on one party, or race/class baiting is a cop-out. For those want the real truth behind the housing bubble, and wall street meltdown Google the following terms and read the story linked to.
securities modernization act of 2000 credit default swaps
»www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/···99.shtml -- Cufk, Tish, Sips | |
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@Level3.net | Re: How we got here It's a matter of emphasis. The two perspectives are not contradictory. Certainly the leverage played a key roll in how it all collapsed so quickly. This doesn't really contradict the other arguments or points. | |
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| *waits those who are gonna flame this post to high heaven, and claim that free market will solve this all*
I want to see what the free marketeers will say to this.
No regulation = greed to the 4 dimension. Regulation = "socialism" as people call it.
A combination of the two? = Supposed Utopia, but where to draw the line remains a mystery. -- Do or do not, there is no try! - Yoda | |
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| You should read some of the referenced articles first, which it appears you didn't. They do give a historical view. We would not be here if lower standards for mortgages did not start someplace. And the record shows one party more than another did not want to rein in fan and fred. Do a little reading on Franklin Raines and his golden parachute after running the GSE into the ground. Ken lay went to jail for the same thing Raines was doing.
Would someone please tell me specifically how GWB did this to the country? Facts please, not feelings. | |
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| Re: How we got here quote: In the current mortgage meltdown, did lenders approve bad loans to comply with CRA, or to make money?
The evidence strongly suggests the latter... In the mid-1990s, new CRA regulations and a wave of mergers led to a flurry of CRA activity, but, as noted by the New America Foundation's Ellen Seidman (and by Harvard's Joint Center), that activity "largely came to an end by 2001." In late 2004, the Bush administration announced plans to sharply weaken CRA regulations, pulling small and mid-sized banks out from under the law's toughest standards. Yet sub-prime lending continued, and even intensified -- at the very time when activity under CRA had slowed and the law had weakened. ...
University of Michigan's Michael Barr points out, half of sub-prime loans came from those mortgage companies beyond the reach of CRA. A further 25 to 30 percent came from bank subsidiaries and affiliates, which come under CRA to varying degrees but not as fully as banks themselves.... Perhaps one in four sub-prime loans were made by the institutions fully governed by CRA.
Most important, the lenders subject to CRA have engaged in less, not more, of the most dangerous lending. Janet Yellen, president of the San Francisco Federal Reserve, offers the killer statistic: Independent mortgage companies, which are not covered by CRA, made high-priced loans at more than twice the rate of the banks and thrifts. With this in mind, Yellen specifically rejects the "tendency to conflate the current problems in the sub-prime market with CRA-motivated lending.? CRA, Yellen says, "has increased the volume of responsible lending to low- and moderate-income households."
... the late Ned Gramlich, a former Fed governor ... praised CRA, saying last year, "banks have made many low- and moderate-income mortgages to fulfill their CRA obligations, they have found default rates pleasantly low, and they generally charge low mortgages rates. Thirty years later, CRA has become very good business."
It's telling that, amid all the recent recriminations, even lenders have not fingered CRA. That's because CRA didn't bring about the reckless lending at the heart of the crisis. Just as sub-prime lending was exploding, CRA was losing force and relevance. And the worst offenders, the independent mortgage companies, were never subject to CRA -- or any federal regulator. Law didn't make them lend. The profit motive did.
quote: ... the Federal Reserve has prepared two reports for the Congress ... on the performance of lending to lower-income borrowers or neighborhoods...These studies found that lending to lower-income individuals and communities has been nearly as profitable and performed similarly to other types of lending done by CRA-covered institutions. Thus, the long-term evidence shows that the CRA has not pushed banks into extending loans that perform out of line with their traditional businesses. Rather, the law has encouraged banks to be aware of lending opportunities in all segments of their local communities as well as to learn how to undertake such lending in a safe and sound manner.
Recently, Federal Reserve staff has undertaken more specific analysis focusing on the potential relationship between the CRA and the current subprime crisis. This analysis was performed for the purpose of assessing claims that the CRA was a principal cause of the current mortgage market difficulties....
The research focused on two basic questions. First, we asked what share of originations for subprime loans is related to the CRA. ... We found that the loans that are the focus of the CRA represent a very small portion of the subprime lending market, casting considerable doubt on the potential contribution that the law could have made to the subprime mortgage crisis.
Second, we asked how CRA-related subprime loans performed relative to other loans. ... We found that delinquency rates were high in all neighborhood income groups, and that CRA-related subprime loans performed in a comparable manner to other subprime loans; as such, differences in performance between CRA-related subprime lending and other subprime lending cannot lie at the root of recent market turmoil. ...
Our analysis of the loan data found that about 60 PERCENT OF HIGHER-PRICED LOAN ORIGINATIONS WENT TO MIDDLE- OR HIGHER-INCOME BORROWERS OR NEIGHBORHOODS. Such borrowers are not the populations targeted by the CRA. In addition, MORE THAN 20 PERCENT OF THE HIGHER-PRICED LOANS WERE EXTENDED TO LOWER-INCOME BORROWERS OR BORROWERS IN LOWER-INCOME AREAS BY INDEPENDENT NONBANK INSTITUTIONS--THAT IS, INSTITUTIONS NOT COVERED BY THE CRA.6
... ONLY 6 PERCENT OF ALL THE HIGHER-PRICED LOANS WERE EXTENDED BY CRA-COVERED LENDERS TO LOWER-INCOME BORROWERS OR NEIGHBORHOODS ...
Of course, loan originations are only one path that banking institutions can follow to meet their CRA obligations. They can also purchase loans from lenders not covered by the CRA, and in this way encourage more of this type of lending. The data also suggest that these types of transactions have not been a significant factor in the current crisis. Specifically, LESS THAN 2 PERCENT OF THE HIGHER-PRICED AND CRA-CREDIT-ELIGIBLE MORTGAGE ORIGINATIONS SOLD BY INDEPENDENT MORTGAGE COMPANIES WERE PURCHASED BY CRA-COVERED INSTITUTIONS.
I now want to turn to the second question concerning how CRA-related subprime lending performed relative to other types of lending.... An overall comparison revealed that the rates for all subprime and alt-A loans delinquent 90 days or more is high regardless of neighborhood income.
... In other words, we compared loan performance by borrowers in two groups of neighborhoods that should not be very different except for the fact that the lending in one group received special attention under the CRA.
When we conducted this analysis, we found essentially no difference in the performance of subprime loans in Zip codes that were just below or just above the income threshold for the CRA.9 The results of this analysis are not consistent with the contention that the CRA is at the root of the subprime crisis, because delinquency rates for subprime and alt-A loans in neighborhoods just below the CRA-eligibility threshold are very similar to delinquency rates on loans just above the threshold, hence not the subject of CRA lending.
...The final analysis we undertook to investigate the likely effects of the CRA on the subprime crisis was to examine foreclosure activity across neighborhoods grouped by income. WE FOUND THAT MOST FORECLOSURE FILINGS HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN MIDDLE- OR HIGHER-INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS
Two key points emerge from all of our analysis of the available data. First, only a small portion of subprime mortgage originations are related to the CRA. Second, CRA- related loans appear to perform comparably to other types of subprime loans. Taken together, as I stated earlier, we believe that the available evidence runs counter to the contention that the CRA contributed in any substantive way to the current mortgage crisis. .... Contrary to the assertions of critics, the evidence does not support the view that the CRA contributed in any substantial way to the crisis in the subprime mortgage market.
I certainly had read it before I posted and I have read it again in order to post this.
"We would not be here if lower standards for mortgages did not start someplace."
Of course subprime loans had to exist before this particular problem arose. The cause is not, however, cra or loans to poor people or even subprime loans in and of themselves. It is the way the financial industry turned these loans into highly leveraged bets in order to make enormous amounts of money. This was done NOT to COMPLY with laws intended to provide loans to the poor but as a result of uncontrolled greed. Uncontrolled greed is at the heart of all the near death experiences capitalism has been brought to over the years. This is no different, though the specific scam practiced changed the basic outline is the same.
Blaming the cra for this is like blaming the ancients who invented the wheel for drive by shootings in los angeles. Saying " the problem had to start somewhere and the invention of the wheel played a part" is strictly speaking true but it is also a silly attempt to misrepresent the real causes of the problem. | |
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