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story category AT&T Wants HSDPA/LTE In....Everything
New division formed to put 3G, 4G in cameras, car nav, and more...
04:19PM Wednesday Oct 15 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: business · wireless · hardware · bandwidth · Cingular Wireless
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According to Reuters, AT&T has created a new division tasked with bringing AT&T wireless broadband (HSDPA and ultimately LTE) to, well, everything. The new internal organization will be tasked with bringing 3G and 4G connectivity to "everything from computers and digital cameras to car-navigation and entertainment systems." Leading the new group will be Glenn Lurie, the executive who lead AT&T's negotiations with Apple for their iPhone partnership. This begs the question whether AT&T will have to open things up to make this a reality, given customers aren't going to want to pay for individual broadband accounts for each HSDPA or LTE enabled device they own. Even coverage will also be an obvious issue.

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baineschile

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If it can be done...

...ATT will find a way to charge for it.
permalink · 2008-10-15 16:10:44 · Reply to this

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Re: If it can be done...

said by baineschile See Profile :

...ATT will find a way to charge for it.
A relevant example for a pricing strategy would be the Amazon Kindle. The Kindle includes cellular access(Sprint) at no additional charge besides the price of the Kindle itself. In other words, wireless access was bundled in with the price of the device itself. Sprint gets a cut of the sales price to cover the cost of the service.
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permalink · 2008-10-15 16:43:25 · Print · Reply to this
kevinm5

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Willows, CA

Coverage?

I'll want them to expand their coverage first. Work on making the current 3G network faster and more available.
permalink · 2008-10-15 16:15:19 · Reply to this

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Re: Coverage?

3G coverage seems very good out here in Northern CA. I get 3G everywhere including the freeway driving between Sacramento and San Francisco. Webpages on my iphone load pretty quickly too when on the 3G network.

I heard 3G coverage is pretty bad in other states though and only available in cities and what not. =\
permalink · 2008-10-15 16:40:14 · Reply to this

JasonOD

@comcast.net		 Naw... ATT has put the brakes on 3g spending and is about done with the 3g buildout. With 4g coming in the next year or two, any money ATT throws at 3g coverage would be a waste.
permalink · 2008-10-15 17:35:53 · Reply to this
brad

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Re: Coverage?

said by JasonOD :

Naw... ATT has put the brakes on 3g spending and is about done with the 3g buildout. With 4g coming in the next year or two, any money ATT throws at 3g coverage would be a waste.
That would be pretty dumb when 4G is still 3-4 years away.
permalink · 2008-10-15 20:16:17 · Reply to this
ltship

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and...

the chip they want to insert in the back of your neck??

no thank you
permalink · 2008-10-15 16:25:41 · Reply to this

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said by ltship See Profile :

the chip they want to insert in the back of your neck??

no thank you
What exactly are you talking about?
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permalink · 2008-10-15 16:42:30 · Reply to this
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 Hey, at least we're not talking about the TPC CC (Cerebral Communicator)...see "The President's Analyst". Trippy, but cool, movie.

Problem: AT&T has little spectrum to roll LTE out on compared with Sprint\Clearwire\etc.'s WiMAX holdings. Once again WiMAX has a practical application where LTE will have to be a shoehorn job.

One more thing: if AT&T can't get their 3G network onto coverage parity with EvDO, it'll be 2015 before they have a decent-sized LTE network. At that point you'll be able to get WiMAX everywhere...even at McCain's home out in the sticks.
permalink · 2008-10-16 01:48:28 · Print · Reply to this

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this makes sense, since they are avoiding ....

real investment in fiber deployment. they are betting the farm on wireless. u-verse is their finger in the damn so they don't lose their shirts in the meantime.
permalink · 2008-10-15 16:37:57 · Reply to this

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Alabama

Well I come to Alabama with some LTE on my knee... Oh wait, we barely have EDGE/GSM service over here.
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permalink · 2008-10-15 16:48:16 · Reply to this
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No way unless tied into the IEEE

The consumer electronics industry is tied into the IEEE. HSPA/LTE is controlled by the 3GGP, the telcom industry. Just ask Apple how fun that has been.

LTE would have to give themselves up to IEEE in order for the consumer electronics industry to adopt it broadly, but WiMAX is already there, which is essentially the same core platform.

They might pay some makers to put HSPA/LTE in their devices but they won't be able to get makers to naturally accept it. Verizon/Sprint would have a much greater chance of success doing this since they have 5x greater EVDO coverage than ATT 3G, ie Kindle.

When Intel gets WiFi/WiMAX chipsets down to the same price as WiFi, current WiFi product makers will naturally drop in the chipset, ideally not having to deal with the carrier.
permalink · 2008-10-15 18:35:59 · Print · Reply to this

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Re: No way unless tied into the IEEE

Very true.. I wonder how they plan to attempt to integrate LTE into devices?
I wonder if the scale the GSMA will come into play on this (ie. attempt to strong arm the industry).
I think in the 'cost' arena, WiMAX/WiFi will be the lower cost, at least until the mobile industry finds a way to separate mobile telecom from mobile consumer electronics.
The only advantage for LTE/HSPA is the highly controlled (and already purchased in many countries) spectrum.
WiMAX's advantage is that it can use just about any spectrum, which is also its scalability issue (outside of the U.S. at least).
I do think WiMAX will do better in the embedded/consumer devices, while AT&T (and possibly others) will do well in the 'walled garden' mobile telecom.
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permalink · 2008-10-15 20:02:52 · Print · Reply to this
goalieskates

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No thank you, AT&T

Once again, people should be able to opt-in for this. I can promise right now this is something I won't buy.
permalink · 2008-10-15 19:54:52 · Reply to this

en102
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Re: No thank you, AT&T

At some point, your car may have a WiMAX or LTE (or other) device built in.
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permalink · 2008-10-16 00:11:47 · Reply to this
zardoz86

join:2008-10-15
Chicago, IL

have hspa want wimax - lte

I would like to use wireless to provide broad band to wired customers. I dropped dsl because it did not work and use hspa for lan internet and voip phone. xohm will sell wholesale, direct it to a mini dslam and sell dsl that works. I would like to do that. or 3.65 Ghz
at&t has 700 MHz spectrum which is wireless for home
with what they will call lte in 2012. 802.16j (relay) is lte. you shouldn't deploy a wimax network without it.
permalink · 2008-10-15 20:56:40 · Reply to this

dave6544

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Of course AT&T wants this

They want to charge you full price for each separate path to the internet.

Instead of your computer accessing the internet through your cell-phones "unlimited" plan, they want you to pay another $40/month + $100 for the card that plugs into your computer.

It's the ideal plan for AT&T. Not so good for those who get it in the rear, namely their customers...
permalink · 2008-10-16 04:45:56 · Reply to this
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