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Alma, AR |  murder
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Elf Wizard
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | being im an online gamer id be ratting out anyone who shoots at the data equipment that feeds my house. being rat is only wrong when internet services arent involved.
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vpoko
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join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA
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| Re: murder said by Kearnstd  :being rat is only wrong when internet services arent involved. Or sometimes, when the people you're ratting on have guns. | |
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CoxCable4
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | Re: murder usually if you live in an area where dsl is good enough to game on, you know who has the guns | |
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John Galt
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join:2004-09-30
Oceanside, OR | Remember...machines are people, too, you know.
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Youngstown, OH | Testfire mishap... of the AT&T Death Star...
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK
·Cox HSI
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| Re: Testfire mishap... said by jimbo2150 :of the AT&T Death Star... You may be right.... Rebel CLEC forces have been sighted in the area....
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join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
| Great... Now we're going to hear about VRAD drive-bys. Funny thing is there will be little sympathy out there for these victims. I've often thought about what I'd do if one of these were put onto the easement in front of my house.
Can't wait to see the first rap video where people get their street creds against the mean VRAD!
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
clubs: | Re: Great... They can stick it on my lawn only if they provide me with unlimited fiber access to it with free internet for as long as it remains their. | |
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i r teh smarts
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Jonesville, MI | Re: Great... They can stick it on your lawn anyway, and not provide you with free anything. | |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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Greenville, SC
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| Re: Great... said by CMoore2004 :They can stick it on your lawn anyway, and not provide you with free anything. Then it will get shot up. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| I'd like one on my front lawn; but that will never happen. The only VRADs I've seen around San José, California, have all been adjacent to B-Boxes. I've never seen a B-Box on anybody's front lawn. Nor is there one on my front lawn.
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| patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| said by S_engineer :Can't wait to see the first rap video where people get their street creds against the mean VRAD! They are one of the best things to tag in the ghetto. | |
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mlundin
join:2001-03-27
Mishawaka, IN | Ahhh... What a 30-06 won't do... | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: Ahhh... More like a 1-8-7? | |
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| Airwolf7
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join:2004-12-12
Franklin, KY
·AT&T Southeast
| I certainly hope that nobody is shooting VRADs with a high powered 30-06 rifle.
Note to people shooting VRADs. Do not shoot them with high powered rifles. You want to kill the VRAD not your neighbors. Any environment in which a VRAD is installed is far to dangerous to be firing a high powered rifle. You would want to use a 12 gauge shotgun with 00 buckshot at close range. This is also dangerous, but not nearly as dangerous as using a high powered rifle.
Know your environment and the background before discharging any firearm. Where will that high velocity projectile go if you miss your target or if it over penetrates the target? What about ricochets due to the fact that you a firing at a metal object?
It's bad enough that you will be going to prison when caught for shooting the VRAD and the last thing you want is to be going to prison for killing someone.
It's best just not to be shooting the VRADs in the first place! | |
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join:2004-03-19
Covington, LA | Re: Ahhh... Pistol rounds wouldn't penetrate it. Buckshot would have a hard time. A 30-06 wouldn't overpenetrate it.
I hope this jerk gets caught ans has to pay the 40k+ or so that it costs to set a VRAD. | |
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join:2001-03-27
Mishawaka, IN
·Comcast
| I think a 30-06 would do nicely, though you've gotta be careful what's behind the cabinet just in case. A .308 might work ok too. Anything less than a .357 in a handgun isn't going to do the job. A .50 BMG... now that's too big. Be prepared to pay a fine though... it might be cheaper to shoot at a person if you end up getting caught. | |
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join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX | Re: Ahhh... Yawn, such old news. It is my understanding that the batteries are being replaced. | |
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xpkranger
No gnus is good gnus. -Gary Gnu
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join:2000-10-27
Atlanta, GA
clubs: | Re: Ahhh... You're right - they are. But the picture is just too dramatic and inflammatory (inflammatory…I made a funny...) not to use. | |
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dadkins
Go For It
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Depends on the ammo used.
A .300 Winchester Mag(considerably more powerful than a 30.06) with SilverTip ammo would obliterate the VRAD.
Since it is an expanding type of ammo, and you are hitting something a bit more dense than tissue, the bullet would disintegrate as it wipes out the VRAD.
Anyone that shoots anything should consider what is behind the intended target *JUST IN CASE*.
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join:2002-04-13
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| Re: Ahhh... said by dadkins :Depends on the ammo used. A .300 Winchester Mag(considerably more powerful than a 30.06) with SilverTip ammo would obliterate the VRAD. Since it is an expanding type of ammo, and you are hitting something a bit more dense than tissue, the bullet would disintegrate as it wipes out the VRAD. Anyone that shoots anything should consider what is behind the intended target *JUST IN CASE*. Dunno. SilverTips tend to blow up pretty severely. They might penetrate the outer skin of a VRAD, but those things have several layers of tough steel before you get to a vital area. And the vital area on a VRAD is pretty small.
I'd want a solid, same kind of stuff you'd use for any other dangerous big game. Probably in .416 Rigby. | |
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@bellsouth.net | Re: Ahhh... www.tannerite.com
It doesn't matter what you shoot, as long as the projectile moves ~2800 fps, this stuff will finish it off.
For better examples, go look on youtube for Tannerite | |
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Chicago, IL
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| FTTH for the win :) FTTH would not have had all these silly lawsuits and delays. No need for big cabinets on front lawns and no distance problems either and less maintenance.
FTTH for the win 
PS: Harder to shoot fiber as well. | |
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shoan
join:2006-02-27
Benton, AR
| they have good placement in my area In our area (benton, AR) All of them that I have seen so far are placed away from peoples yards. Well I think there is one close to a yard. But anyways ATT did a much better job with planning in our area than in others and I have not heard one person complain about the VRADS anywhere around here. Oh wait Charter did come to the city during planning stage to try to stop the deployment of the service, in interest of the community of course. :P | |
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firewire9999
join:2004-07-11
Livonia, MI | This looks like a job for Police Squad Quick someone call Frank Drebin | |
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Madtown
join:2008-04-26
Madera, CA
| Property Values I see these VRADs as a good property value, because if I was looking at neighborhoods for a new house to buy, I would more than likely buy a house with a VRAD nearby, I don't see why these VRADs would drive down property values, if anything they'll raise property values. | |
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Mellow
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join:2001-11-16
Salisbury, MD
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| Re: Property Values said by Madtown :I see these VRADs as a good property value, because if I was looking at neighborhoods for a new house to buy, I would more than likely buy a house with a VRAD nearby, I don't see why these VRADs would drive down property values, if anything they'll raise property values. It will only raise the value if the buyer is a geek. Most of the housing market buyers are not geeks so therefore the value is less. | |
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join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | Re: Property Values Not to mention having the VRAD on your lawn, versus down the street at the corner will give you no performance benefit. | |
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i r teh smarts
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join:2003-02-06
Jonesville, MI | Re: Property Values Even if it did, the VRAD's capabilities are quite sad. | |
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| patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| said by Madtown :I see these VRADs as a good property value, because if I was looking at neighborhoods for a new house to buy, I would more than likely buy a house with a VRAD nearby, I don't see why these VRADs would drive down property values, if anything they'll raise property values. Having a VRAD infront of your home is NO guarantee you can get Uverse. VRADs sometimes have multi hundred foot cables crossing 1 or 2 intersections going back to a cross connect cabinet, possibly or often one that doesn't serve your home. AT&T doesn't rework the trunk lines to make 100% of house available, and some houses will never have it since AT&T won't put up a VRAD to serve 10 buildings on a 1 block long aerial feeder coming off a major duct route back to the CO in a highly urban area. | |
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tech25
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AmeritecTech
Change we can believe in, 1922
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join:2002-09-06
00000 | Price What do those things go for, half a million dollars or something? Would be nice if they caught the guy. | |
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| Re: Price i also hope they catch this guy. i hope they fine and jail him for numerous charges. they should make sure he pays for the replacement (labor and cost of VRAD), vandalism, lost revenue to ATT, and possible endangerment to the neighbors for having no 911 service nevermind carelessly shooting a gun. | |
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Airwolf7
Premium
join:2004-12-12
Franklin, KY
·AT&T Southeast
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October 21st, @10:16AM
| Karl, how do you know that a VRAD was shot? It does not say anything in the article provided by your link that a VRAD was shot.
Cable Equipment Damaged By Bullet »www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=427448···7dd4298b
Did you call the local police and ask them if it was a VRAD that was mortally wounded or did you call AT&T and ask them about it?
Are you just speculating that it was a VRAD?
I guess it makes for a better story if it were a VRAD that was shot.
Could it have just been a cabinet where AT&T connects a bunch of wires together?
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This is another article from TheDay.com about the shooting.
Communications Device Struck by Bullet in Gales Ferry »www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=1993c3···ea1052fd
"It was later learned that a high-capacity communications device owned by AT&T, and located at that intersection, had received significant damage due to a bullet strike. The device, which houses about 14,000 wires, was destroyed, police said."
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TK Junk Mail
Go ahead, make my day
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join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
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| Re: Karl, how do you know that a VRAD was shot? said by Airwolf7 :Communications Device Struck by Bullet in Gales Ferry » www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=1993c3···ea1052fd"It was later learned that a high-capacity communications device owned by AT&T, and located at that intersection, had received significant damage due to a bullet strike. The device, which houses about 14,000 wires, was destroyed, police said."14,000 wires sounds like an awful lot of wires to be connected to a VRAD. Also, multiple shots were heard but only 1 struck the device. It may be very possible the hit was an accident and the device was not the target of the shooting. I assume that a communications cabinet was not running around and dodging the bullets and would have been an easy stationary target and hard to miss.  
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@rr.com | It always breaks my heart to see an innocent VRAD caught in the middle of a fierce gun fight between rival gang members. This is exactly why we need to reduce crime. Won't somebody think of the VRADs? | |
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megatron266
Premium
join:2007-08-11
Fort Lauderdale, FL
·AT&T Southeast
·Comcast
| What is the problem? Look, every company has its own views on how they should deploy some sort of broadband. AT&T chose FTTN. Get over it people! A VRAD is not going to go in front of every bodies house or near it at least. Yes they are huge but guess what they service many people in the neighborhood. I have driven by plenty of neighborhoods where I see that little green box sticking out of the ground in FRONT of people's homes. I have seen green cabinets triple the size as well. Do people complain about those? It still looks funny right in the middle of the yards. But whatever. I don't have U-Verse in my area anyways. | |
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join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL | Re: What is the problem? OH...so as long as it's not in your yard its ok to deploy them. Aren't you the generous one | |
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join:2007-08-11
Fort Lauderdale, FL
·AT&T Southeast
·Comcast
| Re: What is the problem? Yes very generous thank you because I never said I would mind having one in my front lawn. I would take out a loan and do a spectacular landscaping job so nobody would be able to see the darn thing in the first place. Show AT&T where it is and how to access it. Everybody seems to only see the small picture. "WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME" kind of attitude.
I'm not one of those idiots that bought a house thinking I was going to make money off of it. When you buy a house its for you to live in not for you to worry about how much is it worth every day of your life. If you're in it to make money then sorry its your personal problem to deal with. Why make everybody else suffer just because you want to be a materialistic S.O.B. and worry about property value? I have never been against any form of broadband deployment. | |
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join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | This story... ... would be better with pictures. | |
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join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | Re: This reminds me of Ever been to any part of CT not close to Hartford? It goes from Ghetto to redneck pretty quick. | |
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| Whiners I really don't see why these people are complaining. Down here they put in a new sewer/water system and now every block some poor homeowner has a access pipe sticking up through his yard covered with a plastic cover the size of a VRAD.
Only these things are hot flourescent pink...
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Volvo sucks
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join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
| Black deer I guess they ran out of this type of deer to shoot at. | |
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| They deserve it! But should have shot SPY cameras! :) Phone companies are abusing their privelidge of using private property for their equipment. That space was for burial of wires, NOT gigantic boxes. It would be nice if this happened more so that they will spend a few bucks more to bury it and make the world a better looking place.
But really, I don't know why people would shoot this box and leave the 1000 "traffic" SPY cameras per square mile alone. It would have been a better story if they reported "thousands of traffic cameras took a BB or bullet in the lens today and due to cost, they will not be repaired"!!! | |
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| NormanS
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| said by JoeMama1 :
Phone companies are abusing their privelidge of using private property for their equipment. That space was for burial of wires, NOT gigantic boxes.
The VRADs I've seen are only slightly larger than the B-Boxes they are built adjacent to. Who is complaining about B-Boxes? Without those, no telephone service would be possible.
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spg
Grrrr
join:2001-10-31
NOT Texas!
| Are the power companies abusing the easement with the placement of transformers?
The Cable Cos. with their equipment, or the Gas company with theirs?
Sometime in the past communities decided they didn't like utility poles. The equipment has to go somewhere, and that's in the right of way. Get over it. | |
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Super Tux
join:2001-12-20
Columbus, OH
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It is time that all public service commissions begin regulating what can be installed, and where, on utility easements. The arguments that I hear about these issues do not take into consideration that the property where the easement was granted is owned by the homeowner and taxes are paid on that property. The purpose of utility easements is to allow utility companies to run their lines through a homeowners property, not to erect structures on the homeowners property. Installing structures in a utility easement, over a certain size, should be regulated. Such an installation can have an impact on property values.
