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 |  | | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates How can people afford this? | |
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 |  |  | | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates said by DataRiker:How can people afford this? Afford what? A $2 - $10/month increase in their U-verse bill ($24 - $120/year)? | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates said by texasguy37:said by DataRiker:How can people afford this? Afford what? A $2 - $10/month increase in their U-verse bill ($24 - $120/year)? That should read 24 - 120 EXTRA per year. And yes the vast majority of us are on razer thin budgets.
Furthermore, if I had to choose between gas and television, television is going to lose every time. | |
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 |  |  |  |  1 edit | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates Good. Gas would be considered more of a necessity than TV. I don't know about you, but I am paying more than an extra $24 - $120 this year for gasoline than I did last year. The same could be said for my food budget.
I will see a $2/month increase in my U-verse bill. I can easily find ways to offset the extra $2/month in my budget.
If an extra $24 - $120/year will push the vast majority into bankruptcy because of a razor thin budget, something is wrong. If the continuing increase in gasoline prices alone hasn't pushed you into bankruptcy, I don't think the U-verse price increases will do that. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  1 edit | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates Guess what many people have for a TV budget : 0 USD
So how is it any stretch that 120 USD more a year is too much for people with a low TV budget?
It amazes me how Americans rationalize, no wonder we are in a budget crisis. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  1 edit | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates said by DataRiker:Guess what many people have for a TV budget : 0 USD
So how is it any stretch that 120 USD more a year is too much for people with a low TV budget?
It amazes me how Americans rationalize, no wonder we are in a budget crisis. If your TV budget is $0 USD, you are not paying for service with a TV provider, thus an increase in a TV provider's rates will have no affect on you.
It amazes me how illogical the message is that you just posted!
By the way, the most that the increase could be for U-verse TV is $60/year. TV Packages are increasing by $2 - $5/month. For some customers with certain internet packages, there may be no rate increase or there could be a $5 rate increase depending on what rate they currently pay. Thus, if you have both U-verse TV and U-verse internet, the combined rate increase will be $2 - $10/month. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  2 edits | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates Let me state my second line again, maybe you will get it this time:
So how is it any stretch that 120 USD more a year is too much for people with a low TV budget?
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates Oh, I see. When one cannot defend their position with facts or logic, time for the insults and personal attacks. Good job.
By the way, I was not educated in the south. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates So your total misrepresentation of my statement was due to ignorance and not trolling?
I see, I'm very sorry. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates I'm a U-verse customer who is affected by these rate increases. I sense that you are not a U-verse customers. Now who is trolling on this forum? | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  2 edits | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates Please note this a website devoted entirely to broadband (IPTV included )
I would treat anything but a complaint on this issue as either an obvious troll, or even worse a corporate shill.
Red flags should go off when one hears the following:
----Its only X dollars...
----I don't mind paying extra...
----Well, prices have to go up...
----Company X,Y, and Z raised rates so its ok...
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates Good to know! On AT&T U-verse forums I value, the opinions, information and concerns of current U-verse customers. Others users posting on those forums, go on my Ignore List.  | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates I see, you only value people who have U-verse and seem to be happy to have rate increases every year.
Red Flag anyone? 
I rest my case, end of story, QED
Oh, by the way, this in not a U-verse forum. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates You lost this one texas. Anyone who is okay with what has become an annual 10% increase with most TV providers is shady. His point is that these blanket increases need to stop. I personally would love to see ala cart come to fruition so I can pay for only the channels I watch, which would probably number 10 to 20, not the several hundred I have on DirecTV. Then if a channel wanted to raise their rates, I could just drop that channel if I felt they had reached a price that I felt their programming wasn't worthy of. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates I have not lost anything since I am not in competition with anyone. I'm simply voicing my opinion about a price increase by my service provider. Since I actually have the U-verse service and I am impacted by the increase, I'm offering my personal viewpoint. I don't expect everyone to agree with my viewpoint just as I don't agree with others viewpoint. There actually is no right or wrong viewpoint to have. Some just seem to think that their viewpoint is more valid than others, and if you don't share their viewpoint, you are obviously some kind of troll or corporate shill. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates The vast majority of us can't simply make 60 dollars more appear every year out of thin air.
Do yourself a favor and hang out with some poor families for a while. You need a reality check. | |
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 |  |  |  | | said by texasguy37:said by DataRiker:How can people afford this? Afford what? A $2 - $10/month increase in their U-verse bill ($24 - $120/year)? I could see them having a rate increase if they were upgrading their crappy copper infrastructure but they're not. -- 2010 Ford Fusion Sport | |
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 |  |  Rogue WolfReally Ties The Room Together join:2003-08-12 Troy, NY | In this economy? They can't. And yet they'll sacrifice other things to keep this service. Why, I don't know. If they'd just stiffen their backs and cancel the TV service altogether, en masse, AT&T might actually get a clue. | |
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1 edit | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates How much do you pay for gasoline lately? Ditch your car and exclusivley ride your bicycle.
Im paying almost $1000 a year more over the last year for gas. I IGNORE the prices at the supermarket lately. Lets talk about some real issues. Pretty sure those AT&T trucks run on gasoline....Hmm
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 |  |  |  |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates Get ready for the pain, because Gas is likely to increase another .50 to $1.00 a gallon national average by spring.
At least, that's what they are being quoted in the press as saying. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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 |  |  |  |  |  openbox9Premium join:2004-01-26 japan kudos:2 | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates Yep, oil is going up another 20%, so get ready for gas to follow. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  NOCManMacChatterPremium join:2004-09-30 Colorado Springs, CO | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates If gas goes much over 3.25 nationally, we'll go into a depression this time not a recession. I can not wait to see how republicans handle this, this time around. While I hope nothing bad happens to the economy for a good 10 years, if it does, I hope that whatever happens is burned into the minds of all generations that these idiots in DC do not know what the hell they're doing.
Germany is a great example of getting it right during a recession. They invested in the workers instead of the businesses and is something like the #2 manufacturer in the world. I might be wrong about that, but they barely had a recession and are making money hand over fist building things. Something this country has forgotten how to do. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  openbox9Premium join:2004-01-26 japan kudos:2 | Re: AT&T Raises U-Verse TV Rates said by NOCMan:If gas goes much over 3.25 nationally, we'll go into a depression this time not a recession. How do you figure $3.25 gas will spawn a depression? Seeing that we made it through $4+ gas a few years ago without much more than some major complaining, with little action, I don't believe $3.25 gas to be a big deal at all.said by NOCMan:making money hand over fist building things. Something this country has forgotten how to do. This country manufactures many things. Look at the heavy machinery companies. They produce products that emerging markets can't get enough of. Even many established markets are buying equipment. Just one example. | |
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 |  |  |  |  SrsBsns join:2001-08-30 Oklahoma City, OK 2 edits | said by ITALIAN926:How much do you pay for gasoline lately? Ditch your car and exclusivley ride your bicycle.
Im paying almost $1000 a year more over the last year for gas. I IGNORE the prices at the supermarket lately. Lets talk about some real issues. Pretty sure those AT&T trucks run on gasoline....Hmm
... some funny people on here. Well actually AT&T is in the process of eliminating gasoline powered vehicles from their fleet.
Source: »www.cleanfleetreport.com/alt-fue···t-fleet/
»www.att.com/gen/corporate-citize···id=17899
Following their example I will ditch my TV in a heartbeat if it costs too much. There are two types of customers, talkers and walkers. Its the walkers businesses are afraid of. They will quietly take their money elsewhere. | |
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | hyperbole Ok so companies are suposed ot keep the same prices forever in 2050 they are supposed to keep the prices at 2010 levels or they somehow misled someone?
If it wasn't for these new franchise laws U-verse and/or FioS never would have been in palces. So that would be better? FEWER choices are better? That's stupid talk. The old franchise laws would NOT have led to lower prices just LESS competition thus HIGHER prices.
Are you honestly telling me that someone whose only chocies are DirecTv/Dish Network are better off than than someone that lives in an area where they have a choice of DirecTv, Dish Network, cable, U-Verse? hardly. | |
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 en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | hypocrites said by karl : Still, AT&T shouldn't have promised something they clearly knew they couldn't or wouldn't deliver, and you'd think that regulators and the press learn to have a little healthy skepticism when it comes to AT&T promises.
While I don't remember any 'promises' - I do remember AT&T pointing the finger at cable when Uverse first came out, and stated that they were not like cable, and didn't have rate increases (yet). | |
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 ackman join:2000-10-04 Atlanta, GA | History repeats itself Time to break up the AT&T monopoly...again. | |
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 |  | | Re: History repeats itself How are they a monopoly? I am not aware of a place where they are the only game in town for Wireless and TV. When it comes Internet many companies could be called Monopoly. In my area I have two choices Charter or Qwest. Qwest is still stuck in 1998 with 1.5MB DSL.
As for the increase, anyone not expecting it should crawl back to the hole they came out of. | |
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| said by ackman:Time to break up the AT&T monopoly...again. It constantly amazes me how people blind themselves to the facts in order to rationalize their point of view. It goes without saying that today's AT&T is in no way a monopoly. I believe they are running third behind cable and satellite in the areas they compete. | |
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 |  |  etaadmin join:2002-01-17 Dallas, TX kudos:1 | Re: History repeats itself said by MyDogHsFleas:said by ackman:Time to break up the AT&T monopoly...again. It constantly amazes me how people blind themselves to the facts in order to rationalize their point of view. It goes without saying that today's AT&T is in no way a monopoly. I believe they are running third behind cable and satellite in the areas they compete. Interesting spin... third from a pool of three. Conclusion... AT&T is last.
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| Re: History repeats itself I'd have to research which I am too lazy to do right now, but I believe the case is that AT&T's total subscriber numbers are last, but their growth rate is ahead of cable/satellite. Makes sense since they are still building out the service (but slower than they used to).
I can't believe the hating on AT&T ... are they so much worse than the cable/satellite providers? They all suck in many ways, the interesting thing is to dissect the suckiness, to me at least. Just saying "AT&T is horrible and should be killed" is so uninteresting. | |
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 axus join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC | Never trust a phone company's promises Why would a business care about saving people money? Governments should be looking out for their citizens, instead of working with influences that are looking to exploit the citizens. | |
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| Re: Never trust a phone company's promises If by "government looking out for their citizens" you mean "government should centrally regulate prices where there's not an anti-trust issue", well, that's been tried -- it's called Marx-Leninism or Communism if you prefer. The USSR went under, and China gave up on the economic aspects of that and went back to capitalism for their economy. I think history has judged it and we need to move on. Maybe there's a better answer than capitalism but it's certainly not that. | |
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 |  |  en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: Never trust a phone company's promises It would be one thing it TV was considered an 'essential' / 'lifeline' service where it is needed (much like basic phone service, police, medical, etc.). Since its 'just' TV, and there are typically more than one provider anyways (Cable + Satellite), regulation should be there ONLY to ensure that the services paid for are what is being delivered, and no laws are being broken (anti-trust / price fixing / etc) | |
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| Re: Never trust a phone company's promises said by axus:Capitalism is fine, but prior to 1890 the government did not provide a good counterbalance to corporations. Sherman Anti-trust act was written for a reason. Democracy trumps capitalism. Democracy and capitalism are not opposites. Communism and capitalism are. Two methods of setting prices, managing markets, and planning offerings. Centralized planning, pricing, and managing the flow of goods and services has been shown over and over again to fail miserably. Having competitive, open markets has been shown over and over again to be the best way to increase the overall standard of living and availability of goods and services to people.
But free markets, if unchecked, lead to monopolies and monopolistic behavior, which gets you right back to centralized behavior. That is why the Sherman Anti-Trust act was passed, to put a check on corporations becoming monopolies and thwarting free markets.
In some sense, the Sherman act was very democratic. It showed how a representative government can correct a system which had excesses and was skewing away from contributing to the overall good. The laws against child labor are similar in nature. One could come up with other examples.
There will always be debate over where to draw the line. But saying you should draw the line all the way over one side or the other is just a non-starter. | |
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 jmn1207Premium join:2000-07-19 Ashburn, VA kudos:1 | Is Anyone Surprised? Should we expect the press to report on such things with integrity; after all, it is companies like AT&T that pay for that full page ad in newspapers and magazines, not to mention the endless commercials many of us can recite in our sleep? In many cases, the same board of directors sit at the table for both the companies that own the distribution for the press and the corporations that the press is supposed to fact check. | |
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 |  | | Re: Is Anyone Surprised? What was the general press supposed to do with this? A single-digit-percentage price increase by a TV service provider is not exactly blazing headline news.
What would have been "integrity" and "fact checking"? I don't get this at all. | |
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 |  |  jmn1207Premium join:2000-07-19 Ashburn, VA kudos:1 | Re: Is Anyone Surprised? said by MyDogHsFleas:What was the general press supposed to do with this? A single-digit-percentage price increase by a TV service provider is not exactly blazing headline news.
What would have been "integrity" and "fact checking"? I don't get this at all. The story centers around the fact that AT&T used lobbyists and funded groups that helped shape new policies that made investors lots of money, while pretending that these laws would ultimately help the consumers see better competition and pricing.
Many people knew that the pitch about these laws helping consumers was all a lie, and the only serious questions concerning the motives and authenticity of these claims seemed to be coming from independent blogs and forums. The mainstream media simply regurgitated the same spin coming from these lobbyists and fake consumer advocate groups that were quietly being funded by the conglomerate.
In fact, by simply acting as a mouthpiece for these lobbyists and groups while ignoring legitimate criticism, the mainstream media contributed in spreading this false propaganda. | |
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| Re: Is Anyone Surprised? to KrK also.
I see where you are coming from. I think this argument depends on drawing a connection between "video franchise laws and local control and consumer protections" and lower prices. Counterpoint: FIOS deployed under local cable franchise law, did not go against it like AT&T did, and they are raising prices too. So I don't think there's such a strong connection.
IMO the thing that local franchises do mostly is (a) demand that "public access" channels be carried that no one watches, and that the city can spend money on to placate local groups; and (b) serve as a source of revenue for the city. I don't really see a lot of "community control" driving prices down and services up. Frankly, cable's push to DOCSIS 3.0 and plant improvements is driven by competition from the telcos, Verizon and AT&T -- not by anything the local franchises do.
My other comment would be that just because the mainstream press is not as "progressive" and anti-corporate/pro-big-government as you would like, doesn't mean they are lazy shills. The mainstream press has to make a profit too, and if no one reads their stuff, they don't get ad revenue. And, like it or not, this is a center-right country that doesn't want unbalanced news/commentary. Case in point: the complete, abject failure of Air America, and the ascendancy of Fox News over CNN and MSNBC.
I actually tried to listen to Air America for a while, after finding it on a bad AM station locally. It was literally unlistenable. Nothing interesting going on, no one you had ever heard of participating in the shows, very few callers into the talk shows, and all the ads were PSAs. It was clearly a sinking ship. | |
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 |  |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | Writing an article shining light on the gutting of video franchise laws and local control and consumer protections while also failing to deploy, not honoring commitments, raising prices steadily and not really competing however would make a great story in the paper.
However, expecting investigative journalism these days is really a stretch. Most pieces just quote the company PR written up a little more in depth and call it done. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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| I hate to go there But perhaps had the Economy not taken a nose dive into the crapper, maybe AT&T *could* of towed the line they were selling. Bear in mind 3-4 years ago, no one saw what happened in 2008/2009 comming. As a AT&T shareholder I'm a lil pissed that I cant even get this service and wished we had just ran the damn fiber like Verizon did. And im not in any kind of a rual area. | |
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| shame. that we have a FCC stocked full of lobbyists from the entertainment and telecommunications industry (the exact people the FCC are supposed to protect us from).
There are no consumer protections and if you allow a provider to set the rules they're going to do everything they can to profit nicely from it while giving the consumer as little in return as possible. It's the same reason you're not likely yo see a la carte programming any time soon since the profits from selling you a package with 90% channels you'll never watch are too nice. | |
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| Re: shame. It is not the government's job to regulate pricing and offerings from companies that are competing with each other.
There is nowhere that AT&T U-verse TV is available where cable and satellite aren't available. It's not a monopoly. They get to compete in our system of government.
If one of them thought they could beat their competition and still be profitable with a la carte pricing, it would happen very quickly. Same with how they price their current offerings. You get to vote with your wallet. This is a lot better than having your "Representative Government" vote for you, IMO.
If you want to live in a place where the government runs the TV networks, there are lots of countries where that is the case. This isn't one of them. | |
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 fiber_manThings Happen For A ReasonPremium join:2001-01-27 Port Saint Lucie, FL | Price point. Does not matter which company you get your services from. At a certain point the consumers are going to speak with their wallets and start dropping services. The price of everything keep going up but the wages of the consumers have been stagnate for years. People just can not afford to buy much of anything any more. -- GO NOLES!! | |
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 psikic join:2009-03-29 Conway, AR | What to do 1. Call AT&T U-verse billing support 2. Threaten to cancel service if you don't receive a current promotional rate 3. ??? 4. Profit | |
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| Re: What to do I find this tactic to be more effective if you get a better rate quote from another service then report it to your current service, saying, "I'm going to switch unless you can do better on your pricing -- provider X is giving me price Y. I like your service, but not enough to pay an extra $Z for it."
If you just threaten to cancel, well, they hear that every day.
Another risk is they will actually cancel you when you say the words "I want to cancel". Especially if you show up on their screen as a "problem customer". It happens. | |
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| Funny So the provider with the worst HD quality and last-generation FTTN technology now has some of the highest prices?
The new AT&T may no longer be a monopoly, but I say let's break them up again. The company was split up for a reason, and they should never have merged back to become another giant telco. -- This signature has consumed several bytes of your bandwidth. | |
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| Re: Funny re breakup: There is nothing close to a legal reason for doing that. We'd have to give emergency powers to the President like they did in Venezuela with Hugo Chavez to do that. Is that what you want?
re provider with the worst: I actually agree with you that AT&T U-verse isn't very good. I personally tried it and decided to keep Cable TV. But, I have lots of friends with U-verse who like it a lot. They are not so concerned about the technical aspects and are not really aware of small-ish differences in HD PQ. They are the mass market -- not us techno-people. I would bet that at least 80% of people you showed cable/satellite vs. U-verse would not see a difference. | |
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If you want the install to occur on a day that requires you to take a vacation day, that is your choice. The same is true with having cable or satellite installed. | |
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| Like I said I have lots of friends who have U-verse and are happy with it. It wasn't for me (at least the TV portion) but when I had it installed to try it out, it took less than 2 hours, starting from scratch and ending up with TV and Internet service with 4 STBs. And the TV part worked just fine, my only issue was HD PQ. The SD TV offerings were excellent, actually quite a bit better than cable. And the STB was better than cable too. | |
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 | | See this is what happens... When you constantly deploy your service in areas where they already have something. They constantly advertise here in Arkansas about how great and fast UVerse is, I mean a commercial "every break" sometimes two. They deployed all this UVerse in areas where people already have something. Granted there are some areas that got it that had nothing but chances are they took a grant and ran with it.
Wired up 5 people and are laughing all the way to the bank because all they did was drop in some new equipment at the CO without upgrading the 40 year old wiring.
They say UVerse is being deployed "Everywhere" they said the same thing about DSL too. We were promised in back in 2002 when SWBell was "still around". The people I have talked to that have had UVerse on a network that wasn't newly built or was not upgraded in the process said it was horrible. Even the internet speeds were a joke to them.
AT&T Draggin around skimming back with old technology. If you can have a "Ferrari" cheap your not going to buy a Honda at a higher price...
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| Re: See this is what happens... Just to be factual, AT&T did a lot more than "drop in equipment at the CO without upgrading the 40 year old wiring". They ran fiber to the neighborhood (if they didn't have it already), installed VRAD units in the neighborhood, and reconditioned/qualified the copper twisted pair runs to the homes (removing bridge taps etc). I have a buddy who works for AT&T locally and he spent like 2 years working this exact set of items in the field. Plus they built out a whole video infrastructure using Video over IP which no one else in the USA has done (not even FIOS).
I mean, you can rag on them for not running fiber to the home, but don't make stuff up. | |
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I like U-verse a lot, but I realize it is not for everyone. If you are happy with U-verse, great! If not, find a provider that you will be happy with. There are other options. No one is stuck with AT&T. | |
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 |  |  1 edit | Nowhere did I state anything about the trunk. I can feed 1,000 strands of fiber to the neighborhood but it is only as good as the equipment between that and the houses. There could be old equipment in the CO or old cabling.
I'm being serious when I say 40 year old wiring. My neighbor just moved in about 5 years ago brand new house brand new drop, they can only receive 26.4kbps dialup MAX. That is with fiber running right through here.
Don't go throwing "facts" in my mouth when I did not even refer to the trunks...
We can punch at each other all day, either way, it's the way my area was built out. Believe me, I would love to have UVerse, but from what I have heard from those around me that have received the ability to get it, it's not that great here.
Either from picture quality, lack of having the "advertised" speed, or intermittent connection. | |
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| Re: See this is what happens... ok your response puzzles me. You did not mention the VRAD. Are you saying your neighborhood does not have a VRAD? That would be very unusual. AFAIK all U-verse buildouts use VRADs fed by fiber from the video hub (usually the CO) as their FTTN node.
As far as the "last mile" wiring goes, yes it's copper, and yes it may be old, but they go through a conditioning/qualifying process for U-verse customers to make sure they have a clean pair to your house that can handle the VDSL frequencies and requirements.
Typically if customers are having issues it's either (a) the in-house setup, in which case the premises tech can fix, or more likely (b) the pair from the home to the VRAD, which the line tech can fix.
The AT&T Direct folks here can and do help people with (b) type problems every day. They did it for me early on. They can get line techs out to address those issues. | |
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| Re: Franchise reform laws.. said by old_wiz_60:are simply a hoax by the telcos. They paid enough money to the legislators and regulatory agencies and got what they wanted. Plain and simple, they were purchased laws. Yup | |
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| Re: Franchise reform laws.. said by NetKrazy:I believe that's called "business"  So is a drug deal  | |
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 | | AT&T is not the only one raising prices of services 2011 More like this is a look of what's coming down the tube for America. Our way of living is going to start becoming much more expensive. Even though I am not happy to see any thing go up in price. This is one of the reasons I cut the tv cord. I think its crazy enough to spend $100 a month on cell and $65 a month on internet and then another $60 for tv. I am going to start cutting back on things I need and don't need. I am not really upset with any company raising prices at this point. When you see what their expenses are for labor, material, and other various fees. It's no wonder any company would have to raise prices. I am sure the last thing AT&T wants to do is become less competitive with pricing. | |
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Bottom line they are not the content holders they are the distributor. If content goes up you all expect them to eat the cost?
Does the company you work for eat the cost?
If a company did people would be out of a job.
Get over people. Change is constant, change in life, price, etc....
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1 edit | Just once It would be nice to actually read about a price hike without the extra dramatic views of news people. The fact is everything goes up. AT@T gave just what they promised. Competition. If competition isnt enough to lower prices so be it. the price of fuel alone is enough to warrant a rate hike. Throw in health care and content increases and you have what you have. If you dont like it cancel. You would think by now even karl would be able to understand people are getting tired of his personal agenda. | |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | AT&T Promised their statewide franchise would lower prices Here in Oklahoma, as well.
As they rolled out they got glowing write ups and were featured on the TV news---- all positive free press while parroting AT&T's talking points. Ha.....
In fact AT&T U-Verse is usually more expensive then Cox around here and increases regularly, along with the various fees.
... Knew it was BS at the time, but hey, money talks. And they have it. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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| not available to me yet and they're increasing the plan prices already. Why in hell would I think signing up with them when it's available?
Maybe it's a blessing.
Oh wait, I have Com ... crap!  Can't win.  | |
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 Zulu join:2008-03-17 Port Saint Lucie, FL | Do You Think They Really Care! Hate to tell you, but the ISPs or Cable or Sat companies don't really care how much people bitch and complain. | |
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 DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP join:2001-08-20 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:9 | There's mention that Internet pricing will go up too.. Any discussion or detail on this portion of the announcement?
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