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@sbc.com
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DivineDark 
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GOLFnSUN
| low pay yeah.....3000 low paying jobs | |
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@frontiernet.net
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hottboiinnc
GOLFnSUN
| Re: low pay better than NO paying job | |
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DivineDark
join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs: | Awe did you get layed off? You should have have picked a better field to work in. I hear food services are the first thing Americans make cut backs on. | |
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| hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
1 edit | maybe you would get paid better if you didn't sit on the internet all day instead of doing your job. | |
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| | LineNoise
join:2006-06-25
Bolingbrook, IL | Re: low pay I heard something one time about a pot and kettle... | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
 ·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| Re: low pay sorry i don't sit on my company's time using the internet and bitching about my pay. And if the person really wants to keep his job he shouldn't be posting while he's at work when it shows up he's actually IN HIS OFFICE! sbc.com is the actual domain they use in the office.
also i'm sorry but i do own my own business as well and if i want to use my own time and sit on here i'm free to do so. if ATT was smart they'd sit on here and catch their "skilled" employees on here posting instead of working and then fire their asses. | |
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Neyland
join:2003-02-04
USA
| Switching I'm switching to Comcast next Friday. ATT/Bellsouth has provided the same max 3mb DSL in my area with the only possibility of upgrade when U-Verse makes it's way in the next two years.
Over a two year time, same price... twice the DL, three times the upload bandwidth. | |
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| hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Re: Switching don't count U-Verse being there in 2 years. They've been working on it here in Toledo since they announced the shitty service was coming out to the public. They just NOW started selling it. After 3+ years. | |
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| | megatron266
Premium
join:2007-08-11
Miami, FL
 ·AT&T Southeast
| Re: Switching I think I heard somewhere that they are slowing down in deployment and focusing on marketing to those areas that have it. I've been waiting for it for a while now. They called it project lightspeed. I think this is a little less than lightspeed. LOL | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| Re: Switching lol. very true. yah they've been saying that. It was a story on here as far as slowing down but ATT really hasnt said anything officially as far as i can find. But their service here is much more than what you'd pay with cable. U-Verse doesn't have a very high take rate compared to what cable is in many areas. Especially if you don't want digital cable and only pay $50 per month for your 75 channels (like me) and just pay for Internet of 12/1 and pay a total of $120 per month. (internet is 69.99 per month). ATT wants $69 for ~200 channels. Many of their "channels are account questions and help channels--they also count music as being a TV channel. then add the now $7 PER BOX after your first one. and then add at base rate $25 for 1.5/1meg internet. To get anywhere close to what I have now just to watch the same TV channels id be paying up words $140 per month before taxes just in TV and Internet.
That's just to get Discovery Health and some other channels Buckeye Cable puts on analog cable. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| Re: Don't do business with ATT That probably depends on service in your local area.
I've used practically all the carriers here in SoCal.
- T-Mobile - VERY good GSM service, coverage could be better
- Sprint - Good CDMA coverage, poor CS
- Nextel iDEN - Reliable as a brick... works like it as well
- VZW - I haven't used in years due to billing issues. Great reliability, and works well if you like a walled garden
- AT&T - great coverage on GSM, very reliable. 3G network was not reliable until last Xmas (no 3G 850... not enough capacity deployed). | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| Re: Switching For me, its bottom line, and Uverse (+ Call Vantage in your case) pretty much matches what I pay to TWC:
Your effective $66/month + $25 for CV
Is about the same as my $89 for TV/HSI/VoIP ($99 with taxes).
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| the deals ATT wants to offer are the same ones that they offer everyone online and by mail. if they can't do anything better then they need to give up and pack up.
They may give the DVRs to customers for $7 per month but that doesnt stop them from raising the rates for a 3rd time yet this year here. They raised the rates when they first offered TV in my neighborhood, 3 weeks later they raised them again...and then again sometime within the last few weeks they did it again to the $7 PER BOX!
Plus on your DSL you have overhead due to the PPPOE i don't have that with cable. I always hit my 11.9+ for download and 998k upload
And the $200 rebate check they can keep that. I don't fall for their rebates. yah your no commitment means they raise their rates when they want and when they please. My cable provider hasn't raised rates in YEARS, yes read YEARS. the last known cable rate in my town was at least 5+ years ago. And they still keep offering more channels and faster internet. Did i mention my local cable company doesn't wholesale my data and phone records to the NSA.
and the keyword is "lower YOUR BILL" i don't have anything with them and don't care to at this point. My roommate pays $15 per month for our alarm line -- metered billing on it--free incoming calls. and the $15 includes taxes and ATT's bullshit "fees".
But like i said before---if ATT can't compete with what i have instead of using lame lies like "if you don't switch to U-Verse by Feb 17th, your cable service won't work because it's not all digital like ours" well Feb. 17th has come and gone and my TV works like it did back when i signed up in August. | |
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Barsoom
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-08
Reno, NV | Re: Switching U-Verse has no PPPoE, no ATM, so that argument is out the window. Obviously you don't know enough about U-Verse to be making comparisons. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Switching Yet profiles are still 'interleaved' vs fastpath.
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | how do you figure they don't require PPPOE Their Modems still require you to login using the same technology as their aDSL. That is PPPOE. | |
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Neyland
join:2003-02-04
USA
| I think rebates do count.
The way I do it is figure out what size service window I'm looking at.. 1 year 2 years.. add up the complete cost for that period of time (including rebates, equipment fees, and taxes) and divide by the number of months. To me, that's my true monthly payment.
When you're talking rebates, shorter time frames obviously equate to lower monthly payments. If you have to purchase equipment longer service commitments tend to be cheaper.
I typically shop my service every 1.5 - 2 years. With a central wiring closet, switching service providers is really a 30 min process. I have my own external mail servers and I use OpenDNS. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| Re: Switching Their 1 rebate would only pay for 1 full month of service. That doesn't count when I'd end up paying $40+ extra per month for the same services.
Especially when you go to the ATT website and do a speedtest and it claims i get almost 5megs less download than what I pay for and claim its true? But when i do a speedtest everywhere else its always the correct speed that I pay for.
ATT full of shit and the rebates only make it look good, which its not. | |
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join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX | Re: Switching jade, please explain why it is a waste of our tax dollar, I believe that it was AT&T's funds that deployed both Lightspeed and U-Verse. How can it be a waste of your money if you don't order the service? | |
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join:2008-09-02
Stockbridge, GA
1 edit | Re: Switching The fees for dsl were given back to the telcos and were SUPPOSED to be used to make fiber to the home.
The only one that really attempted and didn't pocket the money was Verizon. | |
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join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX | Re: Switching please provide a link for this. This is the first that I had heard that fees for dsl were given back to the telcos. Who were the fees for the telco given to to begin with? | |
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join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX
| Re: Switching After looking at my phone bill with AT&T, I only see state and federal taxes. There was, at one time a universal service charge on DSL, but that has been deleted. I see no other fees. What fees are you talking about. I don't understand your saying that AT&T was privatized. AT&T has always been a public company. | |
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join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX | Project Lightspeed was the project several years ago to place RT's to provide DSL service, I believe around the early 2000's. Lightspeed has nothing to do with U-Verse, don't even use the same technology to provide the service. | |
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kdepasquale
join:2004-03-13
Livermore, CA | Re: Switching I think you're referring to project pronto | |
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join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX | Re: Switching My bad, Lightspeed was used with respect to U-Verse at one time. | |
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StarFish267
join:2005-11-25
Fort Worth, TX |  Stock Stink.
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