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join:2001-02-08 | wow that means alot for me on the east coast.. bummer | |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
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join:2001-03-29
The Lou | Re: wow Just like FiOS stories mean a lot for folks on the West coast. | |
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tacoma
Bleeding Dodger Blue
Premium
join:2001-05-18
Riverside, CA | Heh, ATT just put in a VRAD 300 feet from my house, and I'm NOT excited either. | |
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Surfinusa
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join:2001-02-08
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April 2nd, @02:18PM
| Re: wow VRAD? What is that? lol
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tacoma
Bleeding Dodger Blue
Premium
join:2001-05-18
Riverside, CA | Re: wow VRAD is a magical box that brings tv,internet, and phone.
So I've heard.
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Surfinusa
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join:2001-02-08 | Re: wow I was just kidding I was saying we don't have that here and I would like to get it VDSL2. I wouldn't mind having it in my front yard.
For all I care put it next to my house and I will put shrubs around it and it will disapear. lol | |
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join:2003-06-24
Chula Vista, CA | lol it is a fridge just about.....nice size too | |
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Surfinusa
Premium
join:2001-02-08
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April 3rd, @12:52AM
| Re: wow If it is a fridge does it have an ice maker?
I think it is a door that leads to a tunnel underground were as usual ATT is cooperating with the Government to spy on Moles and sometimes people. The Squirrels are in on this one to, why do you think Squirrels always use telephone wires to run on and sometimes bite? 
Hmmm can I pay ATT to put one of these in my yard? How much does it cost? Can I make them an offer? Does it come in environment friendly green?
I will take 2 of them if I can afford it one for each side of my house.  | |
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| tpac_man
join:2007-02-27
Riverbank, CA | Actually I'm excited...especially since I live in a new housing divison. I spoke to a ATT tech that came out about 6 months ago and he said that ATT will definitely be providing those services to my complex. | |
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CyberTrip
join:2004-11-22
Ridgecrest, CA
| Finally This is great news for some people. But, what kind of coverage is included for those in rural areas? I would like to see IPTV grow and AT&T holds the seeds to make it grow. If AT&T can do well where Mediacom (everywhere) isn't then that would be a huge accomplishment. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Finally I don't expect to see IPTV in my house anytime soon... at&t has built up MANY VRADs in Santa Clarita... however, none for my neighborhood, leaving me to use 3Mbps/512k max service | |
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bigunk
Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA
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| Re: Finally I have a cabinet farm at the edge of my tract. ATT and several subcontractors have been in and out of my neighborhood for months now. They keep saying U-Verse...Project-Lightspeed...whatever it's called tomorrow....is coming soon. Well? Here's what I want: The high speeds they promise, for a reasonable rate, with no cabinets spawning on my lawn of that of my neighbors. Forget IPTV. Ain't gonna work and too expensive. Just fast internet and reliable phone service. Get that down, and we'll discuss the rest.
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Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
| Re: Finally Yep, I know where you are. I have a few clients in the area and they, like you, are in a no man's land for broadband. Hopefully there will be a build-out there soon. There is enough housing density for it to work out. I guess the big issue is with all the apartments in your area, how will ATT serve entire buildings? That can be a nightmare.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
·DSL EXTREME
| Re: Finally There are no appartments where I live.. just a couple of big HOA. On one side of the street is Orchard Village HOA, my side is Valencia Hills HOA, Tempo HOA has a VRAD, there's also one up by Henry Mayo, one by Vista Ridge HOA, Cal Arts, and a bunch on Lyons.
Currently, my choices are:
1. DSL (3Mbps/512)
2. TW Cable
3. Wireless 3G (Sprint is on an Edison tower nearby)
4. Cingular 2.5 G (Cingular is also on an Edison tower nearby)
DSL is good, as long as I don't have sync drop
Cable is pricey
Wireless is even more pricey and restrictive. | |
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Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
| Re: Finally I guess I said it wrong, or I don't have the right mental image of your neighborhood. I was speaking from the standpoint of building an area out for services. Maybe I was taking Orchard/Wiley too literally. Anyhow, no insult was intended. I am near the Plum Canyon CO, sitting 8000 cable feet away, so I can get some good speeds, but they won't give me more than 3k/512 until they start up the farm here. They'll probably force me into a stupid net/video/phone bundle if I want higher speeds. We'll see....
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Finally No - that's Best Buy - Speakeasy  | |
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spg
Grrrr
join:2001-10-31
NOT Texas!
| Re: Finally They won't get it. We don't have to share. Start looking for bundles in May.
And you're right; unless you buy the bundle you don't get switched.
The philosophy is this; FTTN will start bringing in revenue right away without the investment that FIOS is costing Verizon. Then with the cash flow and greater demand comes fiber to the home. It keeps the investors happy that way.
Try to remember that John Q.'s wants and desires do not reflect the typical DSLR member. What we want is way in the minority. | |
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join:2004-09-14
Santa Clarita, CA
| Re: Finally Well the City of Santa Clarita signed an agreement with AT&T almost a year ago for Uverse to provide service. Still nothing available here and I doubt at the rate AT&T crawls there will be anytime soon. I am about 250 cable feet from the VRAD. Have listened to the fans humming for the last year everytime I walk by it. The part I find amazing is how much are the utility bills and maintenance on the boat anchors every month? Just to think I am constantly reminded to conserve power with the mass flyers from the power company and AT&T installed and powered up a VRAD that uses more power than I do in a month, and sits there and delivers service to no one. They should just shut them down until they decide to deliver what they promised to deliver last September. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Finally Yup - they're littered all over the city.
I'm at the point of installing solar panels on my roof to sell back to SCE | |
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join:2004-09-14
Santa Clarita, CA
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April 2nd, @07:13PM
| Re: Finally I am frustrated with the promises they make. I called the toll free Uverse number last September when the original go live date was to be. AT&T at the presentation to the City said we would be the first to go live, and that is why they needed the agreement. Seems they went live in the Bay Area before we did. In September I was told it would be a few months more. In November when I renewed my DSL Contract I was told a few weeks. In January the Uverse folks said, February at the latest. In February I was told a month at the most. I was taught 1 month was approx. 30 days, but in the AT&T Corporate World, it must mean 1 year. The service sounds like it beats TW, and I own all my Sat equipment, which I have been told I need to upgrade to a leased model to get the additional HD channels. AT&T really needs to get it together if they expect to attract new customers.
On a side note - I was told no on the 6MB package, posted in the Direct Forum and they took care of me. That is one part of AT&T that delivers and keeps us happy. | |
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jamez818
please hold during the silence
join:2000-09-18
Sunland, CA
·EarthLink
| Do you know what box your out of? There is one on the corner of Willey and Orchard and then there is a smaller one by a walk way the connects Via Bara to Willey. Or you may be out of the Via Bara box. Are you east or west of orchard?
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
Nashua, NH
·Fairpoint Communic..
| Remember PA people Just like Verizon got 5 Billion in concessions from PA, the people of CA are going to get screwed in the end. Less competition = higher prices. Less local control = higher prices. Less town level commitments = more cherry picking.
Sorry california, you just got screwed by the megacorps once again. Further proof why we need laws to prevent companies from buying off politicians.
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join:2002-01-28
Madison, WI
| Re: Remember PA people If States were smart about it, they could provide some provisions to these state-wide franchises that say something to the effect that if the cost of TV services do not decline over the next 5 years, adjusting for inflation, etc., then the telecos would be forced to pay something back to the State... oh, that's right, AT&T has already come out and said they are not going to compete with cable companies on price... just on "services" whatever that means... maybe a special ubber-suckage tier not available on cable or something. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Remember PA people I agree.. CA, as well as other states shouldn't just give blanket franchise agreements while Cableco's have local franchise agreements. Also, if Telco won't compete on price... then there's no reason for me to sign up. | |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | I think we just got some more competition to the Cable Co's. The Cable companies need comp. in my area. Plus 97% of the people that live in California, live in one of the major metropolitan areas. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Remember PA people Lets see... a major metro area can be considered anything between Santa Barbara to Chula Vista in So-Cal... there's very little rural areas until you get into the desert (i.e. Baker, Boron, Mojave) | |
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johngalt
@pacbell.net
| karlmarx, we already HAVE "laws to prevent companies from buying off politicians." The laws don't work, can't work, and don't matter. The concessions, licenses, monopolies, franchises, etc. that pols sell shouldn't exist. Dump 'em all, and make companies invest, build, compete like grownups. Pols won't have anything to sell. companies won't have to buy 'em, and we can all forkin' get on with it!
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| VerizonCynic
join:2006-10-25
Lakewood, CA
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL
| Well I am really hoping you are wrong. I wont see FIOS until 2008 if then. It is only about 2 miles from me now. By the time 2008 rolls along the Verizon shareholders may pull the plug unless Verizon can ratchet up costs like Time Warner. CA got royally screwed on the Elec deregulation fiasco that some states got right. I keep thinking one all the republicans are chased out of Washington little guys may fair better, But then I forgot that CA Legislature is infested with dems just a stupid and greedy as the republicans in DC. | |
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| Fishie
join:2003-01-14
Riverside, CA
| The Telco industry was deregulated. They did it quietly and no one seems to care. When that happened to the power industry, the power companies (even ones outside the state) took us to the cleaners. The same thing will happen with AT&T. Albeit, a lot slower since they work for the NSA...hehe.
When I see two companies that offer the same service and one of those companies doesn't have their hands tied, it's obvious who is in bed with who. | |
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waynemr
join:2002-01-28
Madison, WI
| Let the cherry-picking begin! No build-out requirements is such a huge negative. Presumably any tax benefits or other forms of corporate welfare being taken by the telecos are funded from taxes from all of CA's tax payers - yet only a few of those tax payers will be in the cherry-picked areas serviced by those telecos. | |
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dadkins
Go For It
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| AT&T? Uhm, AT&T tried TV for a while here... it died!
So did AT&T Digital Phone.
Comcast bought AT&T's failures(and made them actually work!)
So, we have AT&T going to come back in here and try TV again? Sure...
Got Cognitive Skills?
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| AT&T tried cable here - but when told they would have to furnish service to the poor side of town as well as the rich(er) sides, they took their marbles and left. Comcast came in and did it (of course, I do hear mixed stories on Comcast service).
It will be interesting over the next few years to see if the "have-nots" will stay "have-nots" or if this really will work. Although, if most surveys are held like they normally are, if just one person in the poorer areas has service, then of course that entire area is fully served!
I also wonder if the people in various communities will have a choice of providers, or just a choice between Direct-TV or AT&T?
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Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs: 
| Sigh.. Dear AT&T,
Might I suggest that you simply drop Uverse and get into something that might actually wind up gaining you some customers in the future?
I'd hardly think that the current reports of you now having a whopping 7,000 uverse customers is very indicative of a service that is going anywhere.
I realize that
a) Your CEO is retiring soon and
b) probably hates to rock the boat before he leaves and
c)springing on your shareholders that they need to spend 25 Billion instead of 5 isn't going to sit very well with them initially but
d)FTTH is the ONLY answer that will work.
The ONLY one.
Uverse, in comparison to what the likes of Comcast ALREADY offers, is DEAD..out of the gate.
Your dog will not hunt.
He's drooling hopelessly and the gate hasn't even opened yet.
But yet, you expect, that it's this dog that will sustain you in the years to come.
How wrong can you be?
Do you understand that it's going to take a WHOLE lot for you to even begin to attack the cable company on their home turf? Do you realize how entrenched these customers are to their cable co's?
If you're going to try to sell them something, it needs to be
a)better priced than what they have and
b)offers them something more than what they have
Can you imagine a Uverse salesman at my door telling me I can get 5.5Mb internet with them, when I already have speeds up to 20Mb right now?
I am going to laugh him off my doorstep.
My dog is going to chase him out of my yard.
You do NOT have what it takes to compete with Uverse.
Verizon management did not just sit around one day and go ...jeesh..I think we'd just love to blow 20 billion of our shareholders money on rewiring our whole service area.
They thought that out very carefully and decided that
a)the cable co's were coming after their phone customers..and
b)they'd damn well better be in the triple play business themselves if they wanted to survive.
And now, Verizon has hundreds of thousands of FIOS customers..and you have 7,000.
I mean..duh.
Can we paint a clearer picture for you here?
DROP..the uverse..and get on the FTTH bandwagon.
Or you just might not have a company in 5 years to even talk about.
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RailRoadDude
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
·Comcast
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April 2nd, @11:24PM
| Select Deployment That means for those of us outside the cities and metro areas, we'll never see it. Where we are (8 miles north of Ukiah in Mendocino County, NorCal)we have Comcast HSI (formerly Adelphia), but AT&T/SBC/Pacific Bell still hasn't rolled out DSL outside of Ukiah, Willits and Fort Bragg. | |
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join:2003-06-24
Chula Vista, CA
| Re: Select Deployment They plan on rolling out to area with high return 1st. That is why the fought so hard with the state franchise rights. Unlike the cable companies they do not have to offer it to everybody. they can pic pockets in areas if they choose to. So if you don't live in a area with alot of income int he community good luck.. | |
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