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St. Louis, Los Angeles, Dallas and Fresno
02:00PM Wednesday Sep 24 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: Video · business · TVIP
Last month, select California residents were the first to see AT&T's new whole-home DVR functionality, which allows U-Verse IPTV customers to watch recorded DVR content on any television (up to three) in the home. AT&T Is now speeding up the deployment of the service market by market, today announcing availability in Los Angeles, Fresno, Dallas-Fort Worth and St. Louis. According to a letter sent out to customers last month, the upgrade is a free and automatic software update of existing gear. From the letter:
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The AT&T U-verse Total Home DVR feature lets you:
- Record up to 4 shows at once
- Record on your DVR and play back in any U-verse connected TV in your home
- Pause in one room - play back in another

Simply press the "RECORDED TV" button on any of your U-verse remotes
to watch your standard or high definition recorded programs from any
of your U-verse receivers.
AT&T uses HomePNA technology to network the different set tops using existing in-home coaxial cable.

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  5. AT&T Completes Whole Home DVR Upgrade
  6. Fairpoint To Test IPTV In New Hampshire
  7. Should Cable Operators Offer Wireless?
  8. U-Verse TV Gets More Expensive February 1
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DaveNJ
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September 24th, @02:17PM

Forget cable card use ip

ATT they are trying to be better then cable, which isnt so hard. But why doesnt cable offer ip cable anyway? It would have solved the cablecard issue. Plus with a box that can do quam and ip, it would be compability with anyone.
majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY

Re: Forget cable card use ip

Cable can do whole house dvr easily. If I am not msitaken Scientific Atlanta offers a box for this but cable companies don't use it.

»www.scientificatlanta.com/produc···HDMR.htm

ninjatutle
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Re: Forget cable card use ip

Why would Comcast cable do this when they could just rent you a second box for $20.95

Seems like a no brainer to me. Everyone wins, Comcast sees higher revenue, Motorola sells more boxes, tax is applied to additional box. Well everyone wins except for the customer...

djrobx

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Re: Forget cable card use ip

quote:
Why would Comcast cable do this when they could just rent you a second box for $20.95
Yep - Time Warner rapes their customers for a second DVR in a very similar manner.
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majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
They could just charge more for a whole house dvr just like verizon does with theirs on fios
jester121

join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
Either your bill is wrong or you have a third box in the house. Comcast doesn't normally charge both fees for extra DVRs (at least they didn't in the 2 years we had 3 DVRs with them.)

ninjatutle
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Re: Forget cable card use ip

Maybe someone else would like to post a screen a shot trying to prove me wrong?

djrobx

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said by majortom1029 See Profile :

Cable can do whole house dvr easily. If I am not msitaken Scientific Atlanta offers a box for this but cable companies don't use it.

»www.scientificatlanta.com/produc···HDMR.htm
FiOS is essentially using digital cable gear for the TV end of things, and they have multi-room capability. No reason cable can't offer it as well, aside from their own laziness in rolling out new features.

I got a big chuckle out of the original Verizon FIOS multi-room DVR ads, loudly proclaiming "The DVR not available from the cable company!", then cut to a huge picture of what looks identical to Motorola's 6412/6416 DVR that many cable companies have been using for years.

I guess "The firmware you'll never get from your cable company" would be too technical for the masses, though, LOL.
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Neyland85

join:2003-02-04
North Augusta, SC

For Once

ATT has done something the other providers should actually adopt.

j84

@comcast.net

Re: For Once

they are. cable companies are coming out with a dvr that is on the headend side instead of at the sub home.
bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Covington, LA

Re: For Once

And that's going the wrong way with it.
pandora
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How many concurrent users can a DVR support? If you are recording 4 HD streams, and playing 4 HD recorded streams to 4 STB's you are going to have one very active hard drive. How many hard drives can sustain such a high transfer rate?
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djrobx

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Re: For Once

U-verse has a maximum of 2 incoming HD streams plus 2 more SD streams. The THDVR has a maximum of 2 outgoing HD streams plus another SD stream. Then of course there's the 1 stream that the DVR itself is playing.

Hard drives keeping up shouldn't be too big a deal. Lets take the worst case scenario - an ATSC 19.2mbps HD stream. That's 19.2 megaBITS per second. Even a low end hard drive these days will be able to sustain 20MB/sec, that's in megaBYTES. The 160gb drives they use is probably closer to 40. The bigger problem is seeking around the disk to read and write from all those different streams.

Of course, U-verse's HDTV streams are much much smaller, at 6-8mbps.
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The Dv8or
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Is it in Danbury, CT?

I saw this morning that the channel bar changed on my TV, but I didnt check my non-DVR TV this morning. Usually the channel bar change signifies a firmware upgrade, so I wonder if we got it where I live too.
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en102
Canadian, eh?

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Valencia, CA

Interesting...

Total Home DVR... yet still no Uverse Voice, and Uverse has been availabe here since May 2007.
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MTU
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U-Verse

I was very impressed by U-Verse at relative's home in West Hills area of LA County. Recent install after ATT reps went door-to-door offering install at cheap rates (I can't recall what pricing was). Wireless 'net hub installed in a closet, very clear video, nice installation.

I'm not a big fan of ATT but U-Verse looked much better than what is offered in my area (central coast Calif)

Where I live it's either ATT (dsl) or Charter for Internet, and Charter or satellite for TV.

jjoshua
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edit:
September 24th, @03:13PM

Record 4 shows at once?

Wasn't uverse proud that they were able to offer 3 streams at one time? How can you record 4 shows at one time?

»AT&T To Offer Three HD Streams
dealing3000

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Chatham, NJ

Re: Record 4 shows at once?

The recording takes place off site so no need for the show to even reach your local box.

aaronwt
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Re: Record 4 shows at once?

said by dealing3000 See Profile :

The recording takes place off site so no need for the show to even reach your local box.
Sounds like a lawsuit will be happening if that is the case.

P Ness
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Re: Record 4 shows at once?

said by aaronwt See Profile :

said by dealing3000 See Profile :

The recording takes place off site so no need for the show to even reach your local box.
Sounds like a lawsuit will be happening if that is the case.
LOL did already with cablevision and the supreme court threw it out...

aaronwt
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Re: Record 4 shows at once?

said by P Ness See Profile :

said by aaronwt See Profile :

said by dealing3000 See Profile :

The recording takes place off site so no need for the show to even reach your local box.
Sounds like a lawsuit will be happening if that is the case.
LOL did already with cablevision and the supreme court threw it out...
No they didn't throw it out they ruled in Cabelvisions favor as long as each recording from each user was kept separately it was fine. That is why I say a lawsuit will be happening becasue the ruling for cablevision doesn't apply if you use one recording for everyone. Each user must have their own recording stored and be initiated by the user.
koolkid1563
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Re: Record 4 shows at once?

I don't see the problem with AT&T's design though. Unless they take one DVR in a household streaming to multiple units within that same house illegal, since one recording will be used between the boxes.

kdepasquale

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That's not how it works actually. Each stream used while recording uses up one of your available streams just like if you were to watch a show live. Everything is stored on your local DVR.
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edit:
September 24th, @04:08PM

Note the three HD streams. Currently the provisioning is set for 2/2, meaning 2 HD streams and 2 SD streams. An SD stream can take the place of an HD stream, so you can really have any combination of streams, but the total number is still 4.

ji4

@comcast.net
its 4 regular channels at once not four hd channels

djrobx

join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
Three HD streams. Current service is 2 HD streams and 2 SD streams.
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Samus82
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Re: Record 4 shows at once?

yes but if you watch anything that any of the other tv's are watching it counts as 1 stream.

Rookie

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Re: Record 4 shows at once?

does anyone know if they are offering VOIP services via the same line? I have an install scheduled, but I was reading the fine print that was talking about VOIP. I am not interested in that. No 800 service and only 4 hour on site battery back up. I prefer regular voice services. is uverse voip and TV service?

gdm
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Mchenry, IL
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Re: Record 4 shows at once?

I think it's a 8 hour battery backup. The VoIP part is called U-Voice and is pretty nice. If the battery goes out you can have it forward to a "safe number" like a cell phone.

If you don't want it you can still get a regular landline.
GhostDoggy

join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA

Wolf in sheep's clothing

Whole-house DVR does not overcome nor resolve certain facts about AT&T's U-verse problems. First, they are increasing video compression at the coast of video quality. I guess they decided that if DirecTV can do why not them? Thus, the AT&T U-verse HDlite initiative is born.

Next, this does nothing to increase the recording capacity within the household. In fact, it does everything to reduce the household recording time. Instead of have two or three set top boxes with X recording time, you now just have one whole-household with X recording time.

Of course, both of these initiatives are not for the benefit of the cowsumers, but the benefit of AT&T. The tight-wadded wallet nature of SBC (ahem, AT&T) is at hand, here, and their method of playing has nothing in benefit for its cowsumers.

If you are one of the too-stupid to know better then I guess what AT&T does to you makes little difference. Moo.
ebubman

join:2002-01-17
Enola, PA
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comcast 2nd box

agree with previous poster regarding being a comcast customer & having a 2nd hd/dvr box for $20/mo. i suspect comcast has no motivation to consider whole house dvr when they reach into my pocket (obviously w/ my permission, at-this-time) for the extra $20 spot. another reason i'm looking @ direct tv.

sirchief
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Available in CT

I just checked our non-DVR boxes. We can now see the recordings on all boxes!

Nice job AT&T!

Shad0wlore
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St Louis, huh?

I love the blanket statements that AT&T pushes out.

I'm currently with Charter, and I'd gladly switch to U-Verse in my 'market'...

Oh wait.. that's right.. just because it says 'St Louis' doesn't mean 75% of St Louis, and it means 0% of the Illinois side of the river across from StLouis (even though, from what I understand, the IL infrastructure is in better shape)..

Great work AT&T!!

/saracasm

For the record, I can't get DTV where I'm at, can't get Dish.. (idiot neighbors have allowed their trees to become overgrown, and won't allow me to even PAY them to get them trimmed) so I am 100% stuck with Charter and I'm looking for a way out.. so yes, I'm irritated about announcements like this. Based on what several of AT&T's folks around our area have said, we HAVE the infrastructure and capability to get Uverse, just that no one seems to care about the IL side of things.

*sigh*

All in all, it's nice to see them getting technology advanced to a nice point, but it's pretty useless when they still have such a very select marketbase. Once they deploy it so the majority of their customers can get it, then it'll really be something to tout.

Samus82
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Re: St Louis, huh?

i worked a whole month on the Illinois side of the river for uverse. So i know its there. Give it time. It wont happen overnight.
ILpt4U
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There is U-Verse on both sides of the River in Metro St Louis. I have ran into Metro East Prem Techs and they have a fairly heavy load down there. I think there are 2 or 3 garages of techs on the IL side of the river. So I ditto Samus - there is U-Verse on the IL side of St Louis...
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