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kudos:3 | Re: Who cares? said by flyingjoey:As long as they're throttling and imposing caps on people it takes away from the excitement.
I guess everyone who owns a sports car should just leave it in the garage too then. I mean, where's the excitement in a car that can go 180mph if the speed limit is only 90!
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does the police let you get 200mph for a time period and then change their mind?
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kudos:2 | I get what you're saying but your analogy is wrong. It should be who wants a sports car that you can go super fast when after a certain period it goes into limp mode and costs you exponentially more to operate? | |
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kudos:3 | Re: Who cares? said by thegeek:I get what you're saying but your analogy is wrong. It should be who wants a sports car that you can go super fast when after a certain period it goes into limp mode and costs you exponentially more to operate?
Sounds like my ex-wife.
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| | | | | Re: Who cares? Montana used to be reasonable and prudent until a guy was pulled for doing 85 because the police officer thought it was too fast. They threw out the ticket but next year the speed limit was changed to 75. | |
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| | | | said by Rob:said by flyingjoey:As long as they're throttling and imposing caps on people it takes away from the excitement.
I guess everyone who owns a sports car should just leave it in the garage too then. I mean, where's the excitement in a car that can go 180mph if the speed limit is only 90! Why do AT&T sympathizers keep giving out kudos to each other? They're like a clan of corporatists... it's disturbing and unnatural.
Your car analogy is stupid. A far more accurate one is that you have a super fast sports car than can be driven at full speed for 10 miles. Afterwards you're massively penalized for driving faster than a pedestrian. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: Who cares? WHO - GIVES - A - CRAP about WHO'S analogy is right or wrong.. can't you guys just talk about the facts with out trying to give people examples of the very topic being discussed? DAMN already! This has been going on for YEARS and it never ends!
AT&T throttles.. period! Like Comcast, AT&T is increasing it's speed and the topic is always about throttling.
Yes, it's bull crap.. but we all know it's happening. So?? ... do something! ... LEAVE! cancel AT&T service.. or sue them, or rally support in the public and put pressure on AT&T or on the elected official.
In this day and age of social media it's not has hard as it once was. Because of social media, elected officials and the government in general are having a hard and harder time of sweeping things under the table.. so?? ... what's going to have a better chance at changing things? doing some of the things I just mentioned? ... or sitting here on BBR giving a bunch of idiotic examples of the very topic at hand.
By the way.. these analogies are demeaning to the other readers.. the purpose they serve is to talk down to people by those who use them as they figure no one can understand what they're reading.
Point clear.. AT&T throttles their service which makes their advanced handsets less "fun" or "useful" which the term that come to mind is "crippling" ... or it can be argued that they're just being greedy. But can't anyone say that with out having to bring in cars... Yugos and BMW and speeding tickets etc?
And by the way, where it the outrage that AT&T is trying to pass off 700k to 1.7m HSPA+ as "4G" service? THAT is more worth talking about! Millions of iPhone 4S users who applied a patch got insulted by their phones telling them that they have a 4G phone. AT&T should also be embarrassed to do so knowing that they're not impressing me, and many others, with the speeds they call 4G compared to that of Sprints WiMax which gets upwards 10mb and Verizon's speeds.
AT&T is an embarrassment to themselves.. but people are worried about what analogy works to describe the joke that AT&T plays on people all day long.
GREAT way to distract from the topic at hand guys! | |
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| | | | said by Rob:said by flyingjoey:As long as they're throttling and imposing caps on people it takes away from the excitement.
I guess everyone who owns a sports car should just leave it in the garage too then. I mean, where's the excitement in a car that can go 180mph if the speed limit is only 90! What's the point of LTE if it will kill your cap in one minute?
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kudos:3 | Re: Who cares? said by AuraReturn:said by Rob:said by flyingjoey:As long as they're throttling and imposing caps on people it takes away from the excitement.
I guess everyone who owns a sports car should just leave it in the garage too then. I mean, where's the excitement in a car that can go 180mph if the speed limit is only 90! What's the point of LTE if it will kill your cap in one minute? Oh boy. Just because you have a faster connection doesn't mean you will download more! Especially on the iPhone!
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kudos:1 | Big Whoop.... Hey AT&T, you're only in 28 markets with LTE.... So what, this will bring you to 40... in what, nearly 6 more months?
Verizon's already in almost 200 markets with LTE.
AT&T doesn't permit tethering.
Verizon permits tethering on the iPad at no extra charge...
The 4G LTE iPad for Verizon is the best thing that could have happened at this point to illustrate how pathetic AT&T's network and pricing is in comparison to Verizon.
Can't hide it now with that faux G crap you've been pulling.
LTE has been mainstreamed.
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kudos:1 | Re: Big Whoop.... Oh and AT&T does? | |
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kudos:2 | Not yet, but they will soon... | |
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kudos:3 | said by treichhart:Well Verizon doesnt have LTE in rural parts of america so your point is moot.
And HOW EXACTLY does his point become moot because LTE isn't in rural parts of America?? .. EXACTLY what part of his comment addressed rural America?
Apply some intelligence would ya? YOUR entire post was pointless. He was right in pointing out that Verizon's service is superior compared to AT&T.. not sure what that matters to the topic at hand, but at least his point was correctly addressed. | |
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| | | | said by treichhart:Well Verizon doesnt have LTE in rural parts of america so your point is moot.
Wrong wrong wrong wrong. Verizon has ton's of rural coverage already. What do you think Alabama and SD is? Look at freakin' Alabama's LTE coverage, it blows AT&T's away. I should know I have both carriers and live in the deep south. Verizon has MORE 4G LTE in TN than AT&T has 3G. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Big Whoop.... I fail to see a point at all to what you posted. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Big Whoop.... Have you been living in a bucket?
»www.wirelessweek.com/News/2012/0···hnology/
Verizon Wireless today introduced HomeFusion Broadband, a new service that will bring wireless LTE service into the home as a primary broadband connection for those in areas with limited options.
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kudos:1 | Re: Big Whoop.... At least there's evidence of a rural commitment by Verizon....
The pricing may be high, but it's up to someone else to offer a competitive option. | |
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| | | dude that is a joke seriously I dont even have LTE in my area the nearest LTE is about 40miles from me.
Come back with some good information.....
who in the hell is going to pay 60 dollars for cap services? I am sure not going to. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: Big Whoop.... said by treichhart:dude that is a joke seriously I dont even have LTE in my area the nearest LTE is about 40miles from me.
Come back with some good information.....
who in the hell is going to pay 60 dollars for cap services? I am sure not going to.
WHAT EXACTLY are you trying to prove here? what's your point? ...seems most people are on earth while you're wayyyyyy up on the moon here..
What' your point? You don't have Verizon LTE service where you're at... I see how that has to do with AT&T announcing new markets.. as well as the points he was bringing up with Verizon vs AT&T.. this isn't a general "dump on my provider because I'm unhappy" thread.. they exist here on BBR.. perhaps you should find the rants board. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Big Whoop.... Damn dude, calm down FFS....you are getting worked up over some comments on the internet... | |
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kudos:3 | Re: Big Whoop.... said by Cheese:Damn dude, calm down FFS....you are getting worked up over some comments on the internet...
Thanks mom.. don't need your help or your coaching.  I'm sorry.. but I believe in a world where stupid people need to be told. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Big Whoop.... said by fiberguy:said by Cheese:Damn dude, calm down FFS....you are getting worked up over some comments on the internet...
Thanks mom.. don't need your help or your coaching. I'm sorry.. but I believe in a world where stupid people need to be told. I agree but damn! | |
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kudos:3 | Re: Big Whoop.... lol | |
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| Fiberguy I am trying to point out is LTE is like noting if you only get in major metro area's....
Your post right now is pointless....
Also verizon isnt not superior to att if you want to go down that road....
So technically the whole topic is moot. | |
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| | | | Re: Big Whoop.... said by treichhart:Fiberguy I am trying to point out is LTE is like noting if you only get in major metro area's....
Your post right now is pointless....
Also verizon isnt not superior to att if you want to go down that road....
So technically the whole topic is moot.
Just because your only neighbor is betty the cow and the inbred jones family doesn't mean others don't have rural 4G LTE. If you want to talk about rural, Verizon has the best rural 3G coverage. Besides Verizon has already stated numerous times they will have their ENTIRE 3G network covered with 4GLTE by mid 2013... | |
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kudos:1 | Why don't you write Verizon and tell them how much you want LTE?
Like AT&T will get LTE to you first... whatever....  | |
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What I am trying to say is that Verizon and its LTE its not call cracked up to be here and it goes for same thing as ATT. | |
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What I am trying to say is that Verizon and its LTE its not call cracked up to be here and it goes for same thing as ATT.
Mercer county OH is almost all 3G except for a few spots with no service, and is pretty darn close to LTE. Its your choice to live where you do, if you want fantastic cell service have Verizon put a tower on your property or move into town. Thousands of OTHER place's have great rural service like Decatur, AL which has LTE from Verizon and roaming from AT&T. | |
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kudos:1 | hardly I hardly see the point with the current cap system, just use 3g and be done with it if this is their plan. I can't get excited about something I can't really use. Its like having a paper spaceship :-/ | |
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»www.att.com/network/
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The only thing I have to say about it, is when they say a specific city (Cleveland, OH, New Orleans, LA, St. Louis, MS) they mean that specific city -- no suburbs whats so ever!
I get 6MB down & 1MB up in Download Dallas (when I drive through). Go to any surrounding city, Mesquite, Plano, Arlington, Fort Worth, and you get their slow 3G service which you're lucky if you get 1.5MB down and 256K up.
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kudos:1 | Re: AT&T and their so called LTE Network! Because at this point, it's a numbers game. AT&T is so far behind Verizon, it's desperate to tweak the numbers. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: AT&T and their so called LTE Network! said by BiggA:Exactly. When Verizon did NYC, it was most of the metro area, AT&T just does Manhattan. That's pretty weak.
Par for the course with AT&T....
The new iPhone 4G network indicator is laughable...
Wonder what concessions were made by Apple or AT&T to make that happen.
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kudos:5 |  Wasn't this yesterday's news ??
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kudos:1 | Re: LTE What part of AT&T's (Company B) LTE deployment is superior?
Verizon's entire 3G footprint will become 4G LTE by the end of 2013.
»network4g.verizonwireless.com/#/coverage
Will AT&T match that? Doubtful. Very doubtful.
They'll keep shilling HSPA+ as 4G.
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kudos:1 | Re: LTE said by BiggA:Apparently in-city coverage in a couple of the deployments is better on AT&T, but it's not a big lead.
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Tullahoma, TN | Verizon Answer to this anouncement I can see it now in the next few days Verizon will announce they have turned on LTE in 20 other markets that have probably already been turned on they were just waiting on AT&T so they could officially anounce they had been turned on. | |
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Howell, MI | Re: Verizon Answer to this anouncement Verizon has been fairly quiet all winter. There was an announcement a few months ago, but since then; nothing. | |
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When it comes to LTE, from both Verizon and AT&T, the idea of caps is a simple and wise business decision that benefits the masses. I don't know about the rest of the users out there, especially those who want to use wireless service as their only connection (frankly, I don't care about those users because they are the ones that cost the most), but I prefer to have a lower data cap with constant speeds. Do you not remember the problems AT&T had/has because they unleashed thousands of unlimited users on their network? That exact problem is what the companies are trying to avoid now. Their studies have shown them that the majority of users (i.e., probably not those complaining on these forums) would prefer constant speeds, rather than unlimited data usage with sporadic speeds and connectivity. | |
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