  ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN 1 edit | Should they be blessed by the At&t gods? o0o..a whole 2mbps upgrade and nothing for upstream. 
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| Re: Should they be blessed by the At&t gods? I agree, thats a pretty lame upgrade. Notice how all of these announcements by the Death Star come on the heals of a PR nightmare week with the Iphone & AT&T. They seem to be firmly in the spotlight. Announcements like this actually let you know how far behind they are! -- BF69~~~Please stop suffocating gerbils! | |
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| Re: Should they be blessed by the At&t gods? said by heat84 :said by ztmike :o0o..a whole 2mbps upgrade and nothing for upstream.  I'll stick to my 12/2 with Comcrap. lol Exactly! Why do they ignore upstream? I'm glad I switched to Comcast too. upstream isn't everything 100/10 vs 20/20 90 percent of us would go for 100/10 and only 10 percent would see any use for 20/20
30/10 or 20/20? same
I believe asymmetrical is more useful to end user then symmetric which is more practical for business uses
would i prefer 100/10 vs 20/20 or 30/30 yes I would but would i prefer 100/10 over 50/50 or 40/40 a very confusing choice if you ask me | |
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| Re: Should they be blessed by the At&t gods?
Nah! I want upload. can't video stream w/o lots of upstream! | |
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join:2003-12-05 Mesquite, TX | This isn't even worth an announcement, AT&T. Just go away. | |
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  DataRiker Premium join:2002-05-19 Metairie, LA clubs: | SLOW 12 mbps is the speed i generally see when something is wrong with my cable, average is about 17 mbps(28 with powerboost)
I wonder who this is supposed to compete with | |
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| Re: SLOW said by Gbcue :said by DataRiker :I wonder who this is supposed to compete with Comcast's measly 20 HD channel lineup in my city. With U-Verse, I easily have 50+ HD channels. Hope you don't plan on watching or DVRing more than two at a time. | |
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| Re: SLOW said by Gbcue :I can DVR 4 at a time. With Crapcast, I can only DVR 2 at a time. Uh isn't that 4 SD's at a time or 2 HD? -- In need of a Vegas vacation.
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| Re: SLOW said by Gbcue :said by VegasMan :said by Gbcue :I can DVR 4 at a time. With Crapcast, I can only DVR 2 at a time. Uh isn't that 4 SD's at a time or 2 HD? Nope. I can record 2 HD and 2 SD at the same time. That's what I meant max 2 HD's at a time.  -- In need of a Vegas vacation.
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| said by Gbcue :I can DVR 4 at a time. With Crapcast, I can only DVR 2 at a time. You can watch a HD feed and record 3 other HD feeds at the same time?
Because it memory serves (which granted it doesn't at times) U-Verse just rolled out the ability to support 2 HD feeds at one time.
With Comcast and enough TV/DVRs you can record/watch every HD channel they offer at once. | |
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| Re: SLOW said by Gbcue :said by Neyland :With Comcast and enough TV/DVRs you can record/watch every HD channel they offer at once. This is true because they'll just $5/month you to death with their 20 HD channels. So only 10 DVRs extra and $50/month. LOL as if ATT wouldn't do the same thing if they had the capacity (which they don't).
Simply ATT can't handle recording two HD channels while watching another live HD offering. | |
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join:2009-05-24 Cleveland, OH | Re: SLOW I really, really wish I could dump TWC. It's ridiculous how long I've had the same speeds. With all the technology upgrades over the last several years... my god I hate the ISPs. | |
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| said by DataRiker :Something tells me they won't be in rush to upgrade in areas like yours (if they ever do at all) The Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area is huge and is projected to have the highest growth percentage of any US metro area over the next 10 years. The problem is that (and I think you're alluding to this), they have no real incentive to upgrade because their competition is Road Runner at a paltry 7Mbps/384Kbps, or 10Mbps/512Kbps if you want the insanely expensive turbo tier.
I think U-Verse is available in parts of Charlotte, but to my knowledge, no where else in North Carolina. | |
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| Re: SLOW said by Matt :said by DataRiker :Something tells me they won't be in rush to upgrade in areas like yours (if they ever do at all) The Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area is huge and is projected to have the highest growth percentage of any US metro area over the next 10 years. The problem is that (and I think you're alluding to this), they have no real incentive to upgrade because their competition is Road Runner at a paltry 7Mbps/384Kbps, or 10Mbps/512Kbps if you want the insanely expensive turbo tier. I think U-Verse is available in parts of Charlotte, but to my knowledge, no where else in North Carolina. All broadband power in that area will soon be supplied by Roy Williams' fists of fury. | |
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| Re: SLOW said by scots :said by Matt :said by DataRiker :Something tells me they won't be in rush to upgrade in areas like yours (if they ever do at all) The Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area is huge and is projected to have the highest growth percentage of any US metro area over the next 10 years. The problem is that (and I think you're alluding to this), they have no real incentive to upgrade because their competition is Road Runner at a paltry 7Mbps/384Kbps, or 10Mbps/512Kbps if you want the insanely expensive turbo tier. I think U-Verse is available in parts of Charlotte, but to my knowledge, no where else in North Carolina. U-verse is also available in Raleigh. It's been available here since December or January. I got mine installed in February. I got tired of waiting for TWC to bump up their speeds, and I get more TV channels for less money than I was getting with Dish Network. Overall I've been very pleased with U-verse so far. Perhaps I am confusing RDU and Charlotte then? They did recently roll it out in parts of Charlotte right? | |
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| Re: SLOW For me, what it comes down to is price factor.
As my TWC 1 year all the best is 'up', it'll be time to move over to AT&T to try Uverse on a similar initial price point, now that they have VoIP services. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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| said by DataRiker :12 mbps is the speed i generally see when something is wrong with my cable, average is about 17 mbps(28 with powerboost) I wonder who this is supposed to compete with TWC measly 20 HD channel lineup in my city. With U-Verse, I easily have 50+ HD channels. | |
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| They can enhance me some U-verse instead I am all for progress, but it would be nice if they would get in gear and re-honor the line upgrades that got killed after the merger. I am still in a solid copper zone and even my neighbor, who happens to be an AT&T Line Tech, is frustrated by the lack of deployment. | |
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No deployment bc of contract issues this summer. After contracts are ratified then you will see deployment like never before! | |
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| Re: Coming Soon? said by gigahurtz :I was informed by an AT&T rep that U-Verse will be in my area in August. So who thinks this actually happen? No one, not even AT&T. 
It was supposed to be here last fall. In fact, the VRADs were set up last spring (2008), and it's still not here. Some parts of the city have it, but my neighborhood doesn't. | |
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  ropeguru Premium join:2001-01-25 Bridgeport, WV clubs: | Not worth anything... If you don't have access to it to begin with. There were new VRAD's installed in my neighborhood a year and a half ago, if not longer and it still isn't available. | |
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join:2003-08-20 Watertown, WI
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| Re: Not worth anything... What he said!^^^^^^^^
said by ropeguru :If you don't have access to it to begin with. There were new VRAD's installed in my neighborhood a year and a half ago, if not longer and it still isn't available. -- "Action does not equal Achievement" | |
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1 edit | I tried & and will avoid, I tried U verse thinking it would be great, 1.having my phone,all options,longdistance,dsl & cell phoe withone company,easier paying the bills,
2 I SHOULD HAVE KOWN something wasn't right when the installer had to try 4 right out of the box recievers befor he found one THAT WORKED then used 1/2 roll of white cord/cable to install run cable from (like a clock12 noon to 6pm position where computer was) then had to replace my wall jack,screwing up an 8 yrs old great phone,which AT&t would pay for repair nor was I able to get repaired, even after sending it off to a company that says they can repair ANY PHONE.
said I try it for a week, by the 3rd day I call an AT&T,(not a uverse tech out) to uninstall the crap, I'll stay with my Directv service for $100.00 -- I am not young enough to know everything, | |
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| Re: I tried & and will avoid, said by NotRequired :I tried U verse thinking it would be great, 1.having my phone,all options,longdistance,dsl & cell phoe withone company,easier paying the bills, 2 I SHOULD HAVE KOWN something wasn't right when the installer had to try 4 right out of the box recievers befor he found one THAT WORKED then used 1/2 roll of white cord/cable to install run cable from (like a clock12 noon to 6pm position where computer was) then had to replace my wall jack,screwing up an 8 yrs old great phone,which AT&t would pay for repair nor was I able to get repaired, even after sending it off to a company that says they can repair ANY PHONE. said I try it for a week, by the 3rd day I call an AT&T,(not a uverse tech out) to uninstall the crap, I'll stay with my Directv service for $100.00 What???? --
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| Re: I tried & and will avoid, said by Lets Go :What???? He didn't like the install or service so he canceled. | |
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join:2001-08-30 Livermore, CA
| perfectly happy with UVerse in Jan this year, we went from ATT DSL (6/1), Dish SD (~140 SD channels), and Comcast Voice (1 line) to AT&T UVerse triple play; Max18 Internet, U450 TV, VoiP (1 line).
We used to pay ~$145/m for the 3 separate services, now we pay ~$128/m for more internet bandwidth and 3x the channels, with significant number in HD. Phone service seems to be about the same (but cheaper).
No sure what there is to complain about. There is no Fios here, and having had nasty CS and billing issues with Comcast in the past, it was a no brainer. Less $$ for more stuff.
On the internet service speeds, I'm not sure that those posting the big Speedtest numbers are really getting any better of a user experience on teh web, unless they are doing huge downloads all the time. Some of the "my speeds are higher" postings seem very similar to overclocking chest thumping ... sorta does not mean a whole lot in the real world.
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join:2001-08-30 Livermore, CA
1 edit | in Jan this year, we went from ATT DSL (6/1), Dish SD (~140 SD channels), and Comcast Voice (1 line) to AT&T UVerse triple play; Max18 Internet, U450 TV, VoiP (1 line).
We used to pay ~$145/m for the 3 separate services, now we pay ~$128/m for more internet bandwidth and 3x the channels, with significant number in HD. Phone service seems to be about the same (but cheaper).
No sure what there is to complain about. There is no Fios here, and having had nasty CS and billing issues with Comcast in the past, it was a no brainer. Less $$ for more stuff.
On the internet service speeds, I'm not sure that those posting the big Speedtest numbers are really getting any better of a user experience on teh web, unless they are doing huge downloads all the time. Some of the "my speeds are higher" postings seem very similar to overclocking chest thumping ... sorta does not mean a whole lot in the real world.
just my 2centavos
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| Re: perfectly happy with UVerse said by pfschim :in Jan this year, we went from ATT DSL (6/1), Dish SD (~140 SD channels), and Comcast Voice (1 line) to AT&T UVerse triple play; Max18 Internet, U450 TV, VoiP (1 line). We used to pay ~$145/m for the 3 separate services, now we pay ~$128/m for more internet bandwidth and 3x the channels, with significant number in HD. Phone service seems to be about the same (but cheaper). No sure what there is to complain about. There is no Fios here, and having had nasty CS and billing issues with Comcast in the past, it was a no brainer. Less $$ for more stuff. On the internet service speeds, I'm not sure that those posting the big Speedtest numbers are really getting any better of a user experience on teh web, unless they are doing huge downloads all the time. Some of the "my speeds are higher" postings seem very similar to overclocking chest thumping ... sorta does not mean a whole lot in the real world. just my 2centavos ps .. sorry for the double reply .. meant to attach the speedtest pic for reference I would complain about paying $128/m for any service. -- Capitalism is competition, if you don't have competition then you don't have capitalism.
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join:2001-08-30 Livermore, CA
| Re: perfectly happy with UVerse well, that comes out to ~$42/m per service (although that's not how it really breaks out)
As I said we were paying ~$140 for all of them prior, so this is a better deal, just based on the simple math. If you add that there are 3x the channels and significant HD content, nearly 3x the down stream internet speed (6m vs 17.2m) .. and voice is basically the same, it does seem like a good deal to me.
I don't think Comcast is offering anything better (other than higher internet speeds) in my area - N. CAL for a better price. | |
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| Re: Better than nothing, but not the same as the competitor. I tried the Comcast 12/2 for a few months and the packet loss in their Chicago network is horrid at times. Their routing would also be completely off the wall at points. VPN to work would drop or be extremely laggy and its not like traffic has to go very far as we colo downtown Chicago and have nearly a dozen upstream providers.
With U-Verse or AT&T dsl it is almost like being on the lan. Working from home is not even possible most days with Comcast. Modem signal levels were fine, it was just like the node or internal network were getting overloaded at points. | |
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| Re: Better than nothing, but not the same as the competitor. At least you did give it a shot though! I gave it a shot and it worked out well! I don't have any ping issues or anything and get my advertised speed 24/7, usually more with powerboost. There are others that just hear "comcast" or "at&t" and won't give them any chance. I was willing to give uverse a shot. Did not want att dsl, mainly because i wanted a tv package. If they where an option, i would have chosen them. It's not though. (and where i am at, i get like 60 something hd channels. Granted, many of them i won't watch... Green tv HD? Hallmark HD? Ok then!) I do kinda like comcast's ondemand section. I am getting spoiled with that! -- The day the child realizes that all adults are imperfect, he becomes an adolescent; the day he forgives them, he becomes an adult. The day he forgives himself, he becomes wise. Alden Nowlan | |
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  hayabusa3303 Over 200 mph Premium join:2005-06-29 clubs: | Why dont you expand the service MORE first PLEASE. | |
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join:2005-12-15 Santa Clara, CA
| Why can't they deliver FIBER speeds? Why fart around when there are gigs to hand out??? Oh yeah... it might compete with other AT&T products.
Fiber is great for the few who have Paxio or something similar -- but U-Verse and FiOS should upgrade their users!
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