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1 edit | Crap! Didn't we start he internet? I believe we did, and I also believe that US owned companies control the majority of the internet. So I honestly do not believe that the control should go to the UN ever.
As far as the pass ICANN, there's alot that can be improved. I think they can be a lil more harsh on violations, and should of canceled verisigns contract to be a root server as soon as sitefinder was launched.
It will only come down to one thing though, time. We will see who has the better package, but I do not wish to see the US lose control of the internet. | |
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Improfane
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1 edit | Re: Crap! technick,
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Didn't we start he internet? I believe we did, and I also believe that US owned companies control the majority of the internet. So I honestly do believe that the control should go to the UN ever.
You can have the internet, we'll have everything listed on this page : -
»inventors.about.com/library/inve···tors.htm
You don't want to? Then Shut up.
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technick
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| Re: Crap! Such a pointless post, why don't we compare apples to grapes, or chickens to goat. I notice the internet is not on that list, though I think some of the things ont he list are used more so then the internet, such as the Rubber Band. But again, has my country tried to tell your country how to run the rubberband factories?
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DaDogs
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| said by Improfane  :technick, quote:
Didn't we start he internet? I believe we did, and I also believe that US owned companies control the majority of the internet. So I honestly do not believe that the control should go to the UN ever.
You can have the internet, we'll have everything listed on this page : - » inventors.about.com/library/inve···tors.htmYou don't want to? Then Shut up. If you have anything decent or constructive to say, then say it - Otherwise do not. Do try to remain civil, next thing you know you are going to be calling us "ugly Americans." 
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | Re: Crap! I dunno that it's so much that the US wants to control it.
I just think that we don't want the UN and its corruption using it as a cash cow.
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Goober
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
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| Re: Crap! said by Improfane :I didn't say that, I was merely pointing out that the fact that he wants the UN to control the Internet. I said that if UN wants to control the internet then he should think about other things such as what you said, elastic bands or toilet paper for example. You cant have it always your way or always be boss. That spoken, I have nothing against America just the fact that you want the internet to be controlled by the UN. I am sure things have been originally made in Britain that have become a regularity to your life, We are going to control it now and you can have no say  Toilet paper was actually invented by an American. Look closer at the list and click on the inventor name. You'll see the correction/clarification and further information. | |
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Improfane
join:2003-12-05
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| Re: Crap! My mistake, I am sure there are other better examples.
Just understand my point of you claiming that 'the UN should control the Internet everywhere'
This is like saying it is OK for an original British invention company claiming all the similar companies in the US... | |
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1 edit | Re: Crap! said by Improfane :My mistake, I am sure there are other better examples. Just understand my point of you claiming that 'the UN should control the Internet everywhere' This is like saying it is OK for an original British invention company claiming all the similar companies in the US... I think you mean to say, "that the *US* should control . . . "
I agree that the internet, tcp/ip, etc. is no longer a US invention (if it ever was an invention, per se. It was however developed by the US). I don't think the UN should control it though. I think a non-UN controlled consortium of the biggest internet using countries should be created. Each should have only a single vote--regardless of how many people or how much money that country spends. Something along those lines. It would somehow need to be depoliticised and not accept any type of special interest money.
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Random Scots Dude
@151.143.x.x | Why don't you separate out the Scottish inventors from that list and see what remains? | |
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NOVA_Guy
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| I don't see the point of your post. It seems like just about everything the UN gets their hands on these days they just muck up.
Examples:
- Oil For Food Program
- Iraqi Weapons Inspections
Or even worse, they try to ram their ultra-liberal-left-wing viewpoint down the world's throat.
Examples:
- World Court
- World Handgun Control Program
The UN pretty much stands for Useless Nations as far as I'm concerned. It only creates a stage for wanna-be superpower nations to air their "grievances" against the United States, no matter how stupid, unjust, or ill-conceived they may be.
I would sooner see the Internet collapse than have the UN gain control over it.
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| Re: Crap! - Yea , sure , Gore inented it. 
We, 80% of rhe globe, dont trust tou handling anything-
you also made the furst Nuke and burned two cities in the test.
now Haliburton got you in a mess in Irak, and some Gringo message is geting a copy of this message.
Let the UN handle communication
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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| Screw both of t hem We don't need ICANN or the UN "managing" the Internet in any way, shape or form. ICANN couldn't give a rat's @$$ about domain transfer security and has mismanaged many other things (e.g., not yanking NSI's domain management contracts for their SiteFinder BS). The UN is just well, the UN.
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GlenQuagmire
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1 edit | Build your own If the UN has a problem with the Internet then BUILD YOUR OWN. I can't stand these UN bitches telling us what to do with our country. We created it so we get to control is. Why don't you go do something useful and take care of North Korea. | |
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pnh102
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| Re: Build you own said by GlenQuagmire :Why don't you go do something useful and take care of North Korea. Or stop the genocide in Darfur, Sudan.
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| Re: Build you own said by pnh102 : said by GlenQuagmire :Why don't you go do something useful and take care of North Korea. Or stop the genocide in Darfur, Sudan. Hello thereis no money in that. Now oil for food scams that was good till Bush went and messed that up for them. Now they need the internet and other things to make up for all that money (sickning amounts) that the UN members were stealing. | |
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technick
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Loganville, GA | Agreed... I honestly think the UN is a bunch of pansy's | |
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clubs:  | Re: Build you own Almost as gracefully as the administration handled the Sept 11th commission investigation.
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| Freezone
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Southfield, MI
| said by GlenQuagmire :If the UN has a problem with the Internet then BUILD YOUR OWN. I can't stand these UN bitches telling us what to do with our country. We created it so we get to control is. Why don't you go do something useful and take care of North Korea. Come on that is not fair. how can they do that with out AL GORE  | |
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navalpatel
join:2003-07-28
Lubbock, TX
| Bargain I saw we use the internet as a bargaining tool. If there is any country that we don't get along with, then we give them a choice - either do what we say or we will yank the internet. I am sure most countries around the world would be much more willing to negotiate if we offered them that.
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technick
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Loganville, GA
| Re: Bargain Doing that will cause private networks to spring up, and someone will find a way around it by NAT'ing one ip address to a million people pretty much. The internet is so big I do not think that is possible really. Nice thought though =). Can we kick Korea and China off first?
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aztecnology
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| Re: Bargain said by technick :Doing that will cause private networks to spring up, and someone will find a way around it by NAT'ing one ip address to a million people pretty much. The internet is so big I do not think that is possible really. Nice thought though =). Can we kick Korea and China off first? We could still see a million different MAC's coming from a single ip... "no soup for you" "deny all"...
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| Re: Bargain said by aztecnology :We could still see a million different MAC's coming from a single ip... Now there's a man who has a sure grasp of the interrelationship between layers 2 and 3. | |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| said by technick :...Can we kick Korea and China off first? Nah. Letting the have the Internet is more harmful to their oppressive ways than yanking it.
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| said by navalpatel :I saw we use the internet as a bargaining tool. If there is any country that we don't get along with, then we give them a choice - either do what we say or we will yank the internet. Now there's a man who has a sure grasp of 'dynamic adaptive routing'. | |
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MadDog3057
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Miami, FL | Let's start working..... We can start working on Internet3. We'll deploy fiber all over the place and it'll be an even better place than Internet2.
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hailinfantry
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| Re: Let's start working..... said by MadDog3057 :We can start working on Internet3. We'll deploy fiber all over the place and it'll be an even better place than Internet2. What the hell are you talking about? This isn't "internet2." Internet2 is a private edu and research network. It doesn't mean this is the 2nd internet 
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Some Random Dude
@151.143.x.x | Re: Let's start working..... He means that seeing as how the MPAA now wants to play in the Internet2 group, progress and freedom will suffer and we need to start working proactively on a replacement...Internet3. | |
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MadDog3057
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| Re: Let's start working..... said by Some Random Dude:
He means that seeing as how the MPAA now wants to play in the Internet2 group, progress and freedom will suffer and we need to start working proactively on a replacement...Internet3.
Finally someone that understands me!
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reub2000
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| dns != internet I'm reading all this talk about control of the internet. Remember that DNS != the internet. Sure the internet is dependent on dns and the root servers run by icann. If the UN wants to, they can start running their dns root servers with their own tld. | |
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calvoiper
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Belvedere Tiburon, CA | Re: dns != internet Yeah--and then they'll learn who really wants to line Kofi Anan's pockets--NOBODY!
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Sr Tech
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New Fairfield, CT | UN cannot even manage them selves UN cannot even manage them selves and they want to control the internet. Seeing after how well they ran the UN for Food project and putting that in the dumper. | |
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King75
King Of All And Nothing
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Stevensville, MD
clubs: | Let them We basically run the UN we are the greatest source of funds, man power, and troops to the UN. They are in our back pocket they can have it. If they ever implemented this they would probably get most of the people from ICANN to run it anyways. | |
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Kompressor
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parasonic
I Am Not A Bot
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Atlanta, GA
clubs: | Re: Internet Invasion Kompressor: We must DESTROY UN | |
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bit_junkie
join:2004-05-04
Maricopa, AZ | LOL the UN giving control of the internet to the UN would be like locking a kid in a candystore all by him/herself and telling them not to touch any of it.
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@gulftelephone.ne | un controlling the internet... I have to agree with reub2000....the UN wants to control the Internet...fine....BUILD YOUR OWN....stay the hell off ours.... | |
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reub2000
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Evanston, IL
| Re: un controlling the internet... That's not what I said. AFAIK, all the UN controls is the DNS system. It's a service that runs over the internet, so they don't control the internet.
They are free to run their own DNS system. Some people already do so. | |
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2 edits | UN If you stop and think about it the UN is well named;
UN know in trouble spots
UN true
UN lawful
UN ......fill in the blanks
It is unfortunate but the UN is going the way of the League of Nations. It is a corrupt, debating society of 1st world hating third world dictatorships with countries like France who because of their diminishing role on the world stage hate the United States. It is good we have a President who properly sees the UN for what it is. Bush is willing to work with the UN but will not be dictated to by it.
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A UN Managed Internet?
