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A Third Generation Delay
AT&T and DoCoMo delay, scale down 3G plans
(old news - 02:01PM Thursday Dec 26 2002)
tags: business · wireless
AT&T Wireless and NTT DoCoMo have decided to delay introduction of their joint 3G service until the end of 2004, at which time the service will be introduced in four U.S. cities: Dallas, Seattle, San Diego and San Francisco. The companies had originally planned to launch the service by mid-2003 in over thirteen cities, but lukewarm consumer response to wireless broadband has left companies scaling back their initial 3G investment plans. The company's press release calls the service the first true wideband 3G wireless data offering in the Western Hemisphere.

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dweeb

join:2002-06-23
Ferndale, MI

Lower the prices!

I have Att GSM wireless service and they charge something like $7 for 1 megabyte of download for their internet connection. I haven't even bothered trying it because that is such a ridiculous amount of money for 1 megabyte. If they did something like $20 for unlimited, I might budge. Lower the damn prices if you want people to use the service.
hhog13

join:2002-12-26
Salt Lake City, UT

Re: Lower the prices!

I have the $7 for a megabyte stuff on my GSM phone and its actually quite worth it. After browsing the web on my phone for about an hour and a half, there was only 40 KB used. You get 1024 KB for the $7. So its really hard to use all of that up. Also, you can download just about anything you want from ringtones to pictures and not have to worry. Plus its only 7 freaking dollars. If you want to pay the $20.48 for the same amount of data without the plan (its normally $0.02/KB), be my guest! Also, if its possible that you do go over, its only $.01 per KB.
dweeb

join:2002-06-23
Ferndale, MI

Re: Lower the prices!

Thats still alot of money when Sprintpcs has Sprintvision for $10 a month unlimited.
queens_king

join:2002-03-04
GB

Think yourself lucky, only $7. I am in the United Kingdom and paying £8 (about $12) for 1Mb and then if you go over the top the equivelant cost is about $0.03/Kb, and I am on the cheapest (and best) mobile telephone network who actually use the 3G technology here.
hhog13

join:2002-12-26
Salt Lake City, UT

yeah - I'd probably go for sprint but i don't have to pay anything for the service itself so i think i will stick with at&t. My bill is usually only around $14 after taxes and some other added features. I get 1000 anytime anywhere minutes so im quite happy

pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

Who cares?

People in the USA don't use their cell phones for anything other than making or receiving calls. As 3G only seems to add a layer of expensive, unneeded fluff to this process, it becomes apparent that this is yet another vaporware technology that will never take off here.
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DRM == Doesn't Read MP3s

jose3030
Premium
join:1999-08-17
Manassas, VA

Re: Who cares?

i agree.

gee, i wanna surf the web on my cellphone.

please.

ThirdShifter
Premium
join:2002-03-16
Vernon Rockville, CT
·Comcast

Re: Who cares?

said by jose3030 See Profile:
i agree.

gee, i wanna surf the web on my cellphone.

please.
believe me soon, your foot will be in your mouth. you probably think its useless but before you know it everyone including you will be using it.
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do you yahoo!

jose3030
Premium
join:1999-08-17
Manassas, VA

Re: Who cares?

Highly doubt it.

I will keep an open mind, but I doubt it.

ThirdShifter
Premium
join:2002-03-16
Vernon Rockville, CT

Re: Who cares?

how bout this..make it easier..connect your cell phone to your lap top and dlod porn while on a taxi cab crusing @50mph.
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do you yahoo!

Pyrion
Liquid Metal Nanomorph

join:2001-12-01
Poway, CA
clubs:
Bah. I wanna play Quake on my cellphone.
cmaenginsb
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA

3G is more than just cellphones which is where the perception problem is. If 3G was deployed with the same footprint as cellphones (ie the carriers upgraded the entire networks) you would be able to have a high speed (384k+) connection for any computer you wanted almost anywhere in the country.

Unfortunately as you stated, their marketing department would rather push camera phones than high speed services for the business traveler.

Additionally their pricing plans reflect a cell phone mentality which won't get many customers.
Kearnstd
Elf Wizard

join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

Re: Who cares?

thats their problem is that if they offered data services it would have to be as reliable as wired and for the same price or less.
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cmaenginsb
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA

Re: Who cares?

First off my experience with current technology is that it is as reliable or more reliable than wired connections. I've used several different wireless data services over the years and have had excellent results.

You just brought up the second persception problem, the first is that it is only associated with phones, the second is that it is a wireline replacement. It should not be either, it's only due to the sad state of high speed deployment on the wired side that you would think to compare this service to a wired equivilant.

In reality this service is best used (and will be recieved by people who are willing to pay what is worth and not scream for cheaper pricing) by mobile proffesionals.
nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD

that's what I don't get

don't these companies see the potential for the "last mile" connection for home internet? Screw high speed cell phones!
David88

join:2001-03-06
Peyton, CO

Your Right!

And this internet thing......it won't catch on either. It's not about phone calls, look at the bigger picture here people. This IS the last mile!!!!

Darkflight
3G Stitch626

join:2001-03-03
Rowland Heights, CA

Re: Your Right!

Here's the thing, if all the telecoms pushed 3G as the ultimate broadband solution as the wireless answer, it would be great, but we have one small problem.

The network, is not 100% fully ready for multiple high speed connections going on at the same time. All the carriers are tweaking out the network to see what it can handle and as soon as it is cable of fully substaining 144-384k continuously from MULTIPLE connections, then it would be the end of 'last-mile' issues as we know it. The other aspect, is who provides the 'isp' support for such a service? Sure you can get unlimited vision or any other 3G product, but none of them are going to give you 24/7 Internet/Email support and the connections (Unless completely stationary and that's questionable) is ready just yet to handle online gaming. Everyone complains they have to wait forever to speak to CS about a cell issue, imagine trying to call in about a cell issue and an internet issue at the same time.

Overall, the service is almost prime time, not 100% there, but VERY VERY soon.
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Darkflight- PCS Vision- Way of the future.

tomkb
Premium
join:2000-11-15
Avon, OH
clubs:

It's dead

I've already created 5G in my basement over Christmas
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clenetworks.net

jose3030
Premium
join:1999-08-17
Manassas, VA

NTT

I wish them luck deploying stuff.

I just have my doubts about how the economy's going..

MichaelE



Capacity and NOT diversity

Instead of increasing the Broadband data roll out time frame they need to focus on service capcacity. I can't imagine serious data use on a network that can't sustain the traffic of the current voice customer base. Living in a large Metro like Philly you'd think that the capacity would be a null issue but it's sadly NOT. They sell more service without an eye to sustaining service levels and we all end up paying for crap the more users they dump on an over saturated system. THAT needs to get addressed BEFORE anythings else. I don't mind paying for a service if I can actually GET that service.
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Psycko1978

@rr.com

Re: Capacity and NOT diversity

Capacity has not been an issue with the new 3G networks. The new networks are capable of handling 3 times the voice calls as before. Try out Sprint Vision in your area.
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