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Company sacks four U.S. executives, but still eyes this market
(old news - 08:38AM Saturday Dec 06 2008)
tags: legal · business · privacy · world
While behavioral ad firm NebuAD seems to have crashed and burned here in the States, Britain-based Phorm is alive and kicking despite a week where the company ejected a slew of executives -- supposedly for disagreeing with their boss over the future of the company. TelecomTV reports the four sacked executives were all in the US and were all interested in bringing Phorm here. Phorm says they're still interested in the U.S. market, despite questions here over whether such deep packet inspection systems violate privacy and wiretap laws.

Phorm was a former rootkit developer who now focuses on buying your browsing history from your ISP, delivering you targeted ads, then pretending they're offering you a useful service. Really, as Phorm UK CEO Hugo Drayton explains in a video interview with TelecomTV, it's all about providing ISPs with another revenue stream. It's rumored that Phorm has been in talks with several U.S. baby bells, several of whom have been busy lately trying to keep pesky consumer privacy laws out of their way so they too can embrace behavioral advertising.

While NebuAD's effort was temporarily derailed, behavioral advertising will ultimately land in the United States, given there's plenty of companies out there working to copy the NebuAD and Phorm business models.

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  6. Sweden's New Piracy Law Foiled By ISPs
  7. NSA Still 'Overcollecting' American Data
  8. Phorm Fighting Tightening Balance Sheet AND Critics
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TKJunkMail
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Bds of Directors have no power in UK & US

This story just highlights how little boards of directors have to say how a company is run. The boards are supposed to be independent watchdogs over management. But it never works that way. The CEO & his mgt team stack the boards with sycophants and toss them out whenever they buck top management.

In this case, the discarded board members wanted to move Phorm services aggressively to the US and the CEO did not. So, If you are a big critic of Phorm, the dysfunctional corporate structure in the UK & the US may be to your liking - this time.
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This should take care of it

»https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7536

bluecar1

@btcentralplus.com

do US companies not watch outside the US

have US CEO's not looked at the reception phorm has had in the UK?

many UK ISP's are distancing themselves from BT (the only ISP to trial the system)

many people are leaving BT due to this as it the way it is being marketing is an anti-phishing service, not a privacy invading market / advertising tool which generates revenue for the ISP only

there are also amany unanswered questions relating to breach of website copyright as the phorm servers are not the requesting party, and phorm are using the website content for commercial gain against many websites terms and conditions

for more information see

»www.badphorm.co.uk
»https://nodpi.org
»https://www.dephormation.org.uk

redcar2

@ikbcc.com

squeaky old blue skoda

Yes bluecar1 all the questions were mainly raised by you and the small band of vocal oppostion - Possibly the two previous trials were ill thought out but no actual damage was done (short of paranoia) and no malicious intent fuelled it - and now the system follows all ICO guidelines (unless you follow creazed analysis...)

regular_punter

@ntl.com

Re: squeaky old blue skoda

said by redcar2 :

Yes bluecar1 all the questions were mainly raised by you and the small band of vocal oppostion - Possibly the two previous trials were ill thought out but no actual damage was done (short of paranoia) and no malicious intent fuelled it - and now the system follows all ICO guidelines (unless you follow creazed analysis...)
Not true. There are a huge number of people unhappy with Phorm. Anyone I've described the system to recoils in horror when they realise what the Phorm system entails.

The only reason you hear complaints from mainly technically-aware people is that they're the only ones with the background to understand the details and be able to call "foul" on the implementation details, and not be put off by spin from Phorm and BT.

There is a silent waiting backlash from the general public on this that has not yet been unleashed. One feature on the BBC's Watchdog show might change that. If I were BT, I'd be very scared, particularly as there is still no evidence of the validity of BT's legal advice regarding the use of Phorm.

Not a Clean Feed

@btcentralplus.com

So if I alter the Redirected/Forged Browser Scripts on the way back to the Profiler, Phorm will say no harm done?

Even if I've managed to compromise their Whole System?

"Oh what a tangle web we weave......."

An ISP; is AN INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER, once they start "Intercepting/Interfering with the through traffic THEY could be deemed "liable" for any damage done to the WebSite or the Users Machine!
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