ISP Rankings By Subscriber TotalComcast poised to be king, AOL totals still dwindling... 12:30PM Thursday Dec 04 2008 by Karl BodeTipped by Jason Levine  Jason Levine  writes in: "On Tuesday, ISP Planet released their quarterly ISP subscriber counts. Most ISPs saw little to no growth from last quarter. The major exception to this within the top 5 ISPs was AOL. They fell from 8.1 million subscribers to 7.5 million, a drop of over 7%. They've been steadily dropping 7% per quarter since Q3 2007." As we've noted previously, Comcast should pass AT&T next quarter to become the nation's largest broadband ISP. Roadrunner is growing by leaps and bounds as well, and is now the nation's third largest broadband ISP, one notch above Verizon. Cable's been nabbing 71% of all new broadband subscriber additions over the last two quarters.
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  Matt You can't fix stupid Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC | AOL Loss = RoadRunner gains?
I wonder if the AOL losses are providing gains for Road Runner? | |
|  |  SilverSurfer
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| Re: AOL Loss = RoadRunner gains? said by Matt :I wonder if the AOL losses are providing gains for Road Runner? Considering the only subscribers who use AOhell are the elderly and/or clueless and/or hillbillies out in the sticks, I'd say the piddling 7% drop was probably due to mortality rates. Of course, upon the death of Uncle Albert, AOhell will continue to bill his account no matter how many times the family attempts to stop service. | |
|  |  |   Smith6612 Premium join:2008-02-01 united state | Re: AOL Loss = RoadRunner gains? That happened to a relative of mine. It took months of fighting with AOL until they stopped billing, at which time they had gotten Cable Internet. | |
|  |  |   CylonRed Premium,MVM join:2000-07-06 Bloom County | Could be you are clueless as well when describing AOL users in any way. | |
|  |  |   Hpower Roflmao
join:2000-06-08 Burbank, CA | LOL! Too funny @ mortality rates!! America offline has to die!! | |
|  |  |  |  a_large_rock
join:2003-08-02 Oakville, ON | Odd figures From the chart... Road Runner 8.4m 8.4% Verizon 8.3m 8.7% AOL 8.1m 8.9%
why is 8.1m 8.9% and 8.4m only 8.4%? | |
|  |   rcdailey Dragoonfly Premium join:2005-03-29 Rialto, CA
edit: December 4th, @01:38PM
| Re: Odd figures In the chart, I see that they show different sources for the data on market share: "Trending Schedules," "SEC 10-Q," and "Press Release." The SEC 10-Q should be more authoritative than a press release, but it may also reflect a different period of time and that could be a cause for the discrepancy in the values for market share. Also, only RoadRunner and AOL are shown with "Trending Schedules" as the source of data (because both come from Time Warner). All this makes me not very trustful of the information. | |
|   rahlquist Redeye
join:2001-10-30 Villa Rica, GA
| Hows this for a laugh? Comcast should pass AT&T next quarter to become the nation's largest broadband ISP. Thats great, and AT&T's solution, implement more draconian caps than the market leader.
So AT&T hows that working for ya? The market leader has faster speeds lower caps...oh and more market share..
Niiiiiceee I smell a CEO roast coming. -- Fed Up With Stupidity?
Patentlystupid.com | |
|  |   rcdailey Dragoonfly Premium join:2005-03-29 Rialto, CA
| Re: Hows this for a laugh? Do you suppose that the feds will allow Comcast and Time Warner Cable to merge? Then those Comcast caps could be given to TWC customers, assuning that they are reaslistic and the infrastructure can support them. I remember when the territory I was in was owned by Comcast, and then was sold to Adelphia. When the opportunity to get it back from Adelphia came along, Comcast didn't bite. | |
|  |  |   MrMaster What If Premium join:2000-12-16 Austin, TX clubs:
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| Re: Hows this for a laugh? said by rcdailey :Do you suppose that the feds will allow Comcast and Time Warner Cable to merge? Then those Comcast caps could be given to TWC customers, assuning that they are reaslistic and the infrastructure can support them. I remember when the territory I was in was owned by Comcast, and then was sold to Adelphia. When the opportunity to get it back from Adelphia came along, Comcast didn't bite. they wouldn't be allowed to merge. Even if the Republicans would still be in office Jan 20th that type of merger would not be allowed. | |
|  |  |  |   rcdailey Dragoonfly Premium join:2005-03-29 Rialto, CA
edit: December 4th, @03:16PM
| Re: Hows this for a laugh? That would not keep TWC from going bankrupt, so far as I know, because if the Republicans were still in office on January 21 or later, a bailout of TWC would not be likely. Once TWC went bankrupt, the assets would be available to whatever entities were still around.
I have C-Span on now and Sen Bennett asked the CEOs of Chrysler and GM whether they would be willing to accept a requirement to merge their companies if that were included in a deal from Congress to give them money to stay alive. So, the idea of allowing a merger in another industry, even if it were non-competitive to some extent, isn't really out of the question, I think. Besides that, there's no real competition in cable due to the franchise arrangements. I can't get Comcast if I'm in TWC territory. | |
|  |   baineschile
join:2008-05-10 Sterling Heights, MI | Higher caps maybe? | |
|   DHRacer Fire Survivor
join:2000-10-10 Lake Arrowhead, CA | AOL cease to exist? If they lose 7% of their subscriber base every quarter, how long until they are gone?
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|  |   ScottMo Premium,MVM join:2000-12-15 Stony Brook, NY
edit: December 4th, @04:23PM
| Re: AOL cease to exist? None. While the percentage says relatively even, the absolute numbers are declining.
AOL's subscriber losses the past several quarters. 3Q06 -2,502,000 (14%) 4Q06 -2,015,000 (13.3%) 1Q07 -1,184,000 (9.0%) 2Q07 -1,071,000 (8.9%) 3Q07 -851,000 (7.8%) 4Q07 -740,000 (7.3%) 1Q08 -647,000 (6.9%) 2Q08 -604,000 (7.0%)
Still, that's an incredible subscriber loss. From 17,700,000 at June 30, 2006 to 8,086,000 two years later. | |
|  |  |  BF69
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| Re: AOL cease to exist? said by ScottMo :None. While the percentage says relatively even, the absolute numbers are declining. AOL's subscriber losses the past several quarters. 3Q06 -2,502,000 (14%) 4Q06 -2,015,000 (13.3%) 1Q07 -1,184,000 (9.0%) 2Q07 -1,071,000 (8.9%) 3Q07 -851,000 (7.8%) 4Q07 -740,000 (7.3%) 1Q08 -647,000 (6.9%) 2Q08 -604,000 (7.0%) Still, that's an incredible subscriber loss. From 17,700,000 at June 30, 2006 to 8,086,000 two years later. Just 6 years ago AOL had 26.7 million subscribers. | |
|  |  BF69
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| said by DHRacer :If they lose 7% of their subscriber base every quarter, how long until they are gone? It would take 7 more years for them to drop to 1 million subscribers. 12 years to drop to 250K, 15 years to drop to 100K. Of course that's assuming once they get that low AOL would care to still be an ISP. | |
|  |   heat84
join:2004-03-11 Fort Lauderdale, FL
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| said by DHRacer :If they lose 7% of their subscriber base every quarter, how long until they are gone? I thought they were gone.:shock: I mean its been ages since I've gotten an AOL CD in the mail. Is it just a coincidence that AT&T and Comcast have nearly an identical market share and # of subscribers?:tinfoilhat: | |
|  xenophon
join:2007-09-17 | Sprint mobile broadband I wonder why Sprint mobile broadband card users (EVDO laptop cards) are not included. They have over 2 million subs. If Clearwire is included, why not EVDO users? | |
|  |   rcdailey Dragoonfly Premium join:2005-03-29 Rialto, CA | Re: Sprint mobile broadband Maybe they thought Sprint would be bankrupt by the time the story came out? | |
|  |  |  |  |   rcdailey Dragoonfly Premium join:2005-03-29 Rialto, CA | Re: Sprint mobile broadband That's logical. | |
|  |  BF69
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| said by xenophon :I wonder why Sprint mobile broadband card users (EVDO laptop cards) are not included. They have over 2 million subs. If Clearwire is included, why not EVDO users? Look at the bottom
"24 Other U.S. ISPs 23.2 24.1% "
Not everyone reports their subscrinbers. Since Cox went private they don't. Notice they aren't listed but they should be in the top 5. | |
|   ctceo Premium join:2001-04-26 South Bend, IN clubs: | Conversion Needed Could somebody make this into a chart of some sort. My head hurts from all the numbers.
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