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America the pitiful
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North Babylon, NY | Lies Don't promote such expensive equipment if you cannot find the prize first! | |
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KrK
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| Re: Lies Ummmm..... "We can't afford a 65" TV for our Father's Day Grand Prize"....
I'd say they have no right being in business then, lying to people and such. That is some sorry crap right there..... Since marketing or whoever screwed up, they should just pay the man.
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cork1958
Cork
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Fruitport, MI
·Charter Pipeline
| Re: Lies said by KrK  :Ummmm..... "We can't afford a 65" TV for our Father's Day Grand Prize".... I'd say they have no right being in business then, lying to people and such. That is some sorry crap right there..... Since marketing or whoever screwed up, they should just pay the man. Replies should've ended right after this comment, as should've Charter, for that matter, plain and simple.
Although I have been very satisfied with Charter in my area, this is simply BS!! Here's one time I wouldn't mind seeing some part of the government, whether local, state, or federal, step in and shut them down just for this obviously blatant false advertising.
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danclan
join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA | 42+19=61
looks to me he is still 4" short of what was promised.  | |
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King P
Don't blame me. I voted for Ron Paul
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| Re: Lies That's exactly what I thought too.
42+19=61, no?
*edit* beat me to it :P
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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| said by King P :That's exactly what I thought too. 42+19=61, no? *edit* beat me to it :P its that "new math"
Why doesn't this surprise me.
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punker
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| Re: Lies said by dvd536 :said by King P :That's exactly what I thought too. 42+19=61, no? *edit* beat me to it :P its that "new math" Why doesn't this surprise me. no it's 65" if they are counting the cabient size like they do with CRT's monitors | |
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Jonesville, MI | Re: Lies Last I knew, they don't count the cabinet size with CRT monitors. Some people get confused because they don't realize the measurement is a diagonal measurement, but I've never seen cabinet size come into play. | |
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punker
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clubs: | Re: Lies they say 19"
but viewable is only 18" | |
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL
| said by danclan :42+19=61 looks to me he is still 4" short of what was promised. So a 42" TV and a 23" TV together would have the same screen area as a 65" TV? That's some interesting math (geometry). | |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
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| Re: Lies 65 diagonal = 57x32 = 1824" square
50 diagonal = 44x25 = 1100" square
42 diagonal = 37x21 = 777" square
26 diagonal = 23x13 = 199" square
19 diagonal = 17x9 = 153" square
So to get the equivalent surface area, assuming a 42" screen, you'd need to add a 50".
Alternatively, you could have 2x42" and 1x26".
The bigger the TV, the more surface area another inch adds. | |
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join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | Re: Lies #1 post in this thread.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back though, it didn't take much. | |
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Rob
In Deo speramus
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Kendall, FL | Mind Boggling.. The fact that some SAP at Charter thought that sending a 19" instead of the 65" would be "ok" is insulting.
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Mechanicsburg, PA | Re: Mind Boggling.. I have a 19".. Ummmm... Yea I'll take the 65" anyday..What. Thats about a $2000 difference?? | |
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BinaryXtreme
join:2004-04-20
Sparks, NV | Re: A slam dunk Absolutely Night fall. Out right fraud. Any attorney will take this case for free just for the media. In and out case, plantiff wins. | |
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| Re: A slam dunk said by BinaryXtreme :Absolutely Night fall. Out right fraud. Any attorney will take this case for free just for the media. In and out case, plantiff wins. no attorney will take it because it's not true. this person was not the winner, plain and simple | |
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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Grand Rapids, MI | Re: A slam dunk said by Cogdis :What do you mean? Just what he said. | |
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Rob
In Deo speramus
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| said by Nightfall :If he was awarded the grand prize, it should be VERY easy to collect. 1. Print the webpage with the contest rules and prize information. 2. Take them to court. 3. Profit! I am not doubting the validity of the article or this person, but I would like to see some proof before I pass judgement. And then he to sell his 65" TV to pay for the legal costs.  | |
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Smith6612
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united state | haha... How unfortunate is that? That TV is smaller than BOTH of the LCD monitors on my gaming computer! | |
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wahoospa
join:2006-03-23
Charleston, SC | Fraud Is this what is called fraud? And I thought fraud was a felony. | |
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BinaryXtreme
join:2004-04-20
Sparks, NV
·Charter Pipeline
| Re: Fraud Fraud is a felony.
"The intentional distortion of the truth"
That is a quote of legal definition of fraud. I guarantee you if you quit your Charter service and you gave them back a cheap piece of crap DVR box, not the one they gave you, you would be charged with, FRAUD! What the hell is the difference if they do it? | |
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join:2003-08-09
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| Re: Fraud Pretty sure they'll just charge your account several hundred dollars; I don't think even Karl can find a story about a cable company filing criminal charges against a customer for failing to return equipment.
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL
| Re: Fraud said by jester121 :Pretty sure they'll just charge your account several hundred dollars; I don't think even Karl can find a story about a cable company filing criminal charges against a customer for failing to return equipment. Why would he look for a story about a customer doing something wrong? This is an anti-business site. | |
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taar
join:2000-11-21 | It cant be true.... This story HAS to be a misprint. No way in hell would anyone at Charter think they would get away with such nonsense.... | |
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join:2006-11-21
Saint Louis, MO | Re: It cant be true.... Having worked there for several years and knowing the type of execs they hire there I can honestly say that yes, someone there would think this is ok. The level of incompetence in the corporate office is astounding. They have no clue. | |
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join:2005-04-13
Denton, TX | Yes, this can happen with Charter. They couldn't even put the correct FEED on the correct CHANNEL... even after being told several times about the issue. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by taar :This story HAS to be a misprint. No way in hell would anyone at Charter think they would get away with such nonsense.... really?
"Charter also recently ran a promotion offering broadband for life (the winner paid $71,500), though some fine print buried in the promotion rules allows Charter completely off the hook should the debt-riddled company be sold within three years." | |
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avd706
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Great Neck, NY | I bet Not knowing the facts of this case, I bet there is an out in the fine print of the contest rules. | |
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dnoyeB
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join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI | Re: I bet There is no out for the bad publicity. The contest was no doubt to generate publicity. Its just stupid to do what they did. | |
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join:2003-11-24
Saint Louis, MO | Re: Maybe not? this has already been shot down. This person was not the winner. Just a sore loser trying to make charter look bad. The big tv and service was awarded, as were several other prizes to other people. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK
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| Re: Maybe not? said by Margolis :this has already been shot down. This person was not the winner. Just a sore loser trying to make charter look bad. The big tv and service was awarded, as were several other prizes to other people. Charter basically admitted their marketing screwed up. The family wasn't lying, or being "sore losers" as you put it, it was a screwup by Charter, someone else won the TV, but they did contact this family saying they'd won.
So, they sent them a 42" and a 19" HDTV as a way of "Consolation" prizes and apologized for the mix-up.
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jeffster1970
Whatta Ya Think About Dat?
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| Re: Maybe not? said by KrK :said by Margolis : So, they sent them a 42" and a 19" HDTV as a way of "Consolation" prizes and apologized for the mix-up. Not bad for a consolation prize, a 42" and 19", wonder if it would have been cheaper, though, to send them a projector?? It probably would be less then those two HDTV's, and since projectors do in "feet" and not "inches", it would have been one happy dad!
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KrK
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| Re: Maybe not? So are they just lying? Or is this one of those deals where a marketing guy messed up and Charter decided there was a better prize "deserving" Dad out there and changed their award?
*Update* Full story comes out. See posts above. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Pffffft.... What... isn't AT&T trying to bribe you off their ranting/blogging by giving you an HD and Uverse service. 
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK | Well, the good news.... you can be warm and fuzzy with the knowledge that you helped pay for it. | |
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Cheese
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Naples, FL
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AZ_OGM
join:2007-01-12
Phoenix, AZ | A 19" TV is better than no TV At least he didn't get screwed over like the Hooter's waitress who won a "toy yoda" instead of a Toyota. | |
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Technogeez
Misanthropic curmudgeon
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join:2007-01-20 | Re: A 19" TV is better than no TV Jeez, some people can't take a joke... | |
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BinaryXtreme
join:2004-04-20
Sparks, NV | Now it's true? So now it's a true story? Funny all the people posting claiming it wasn't true yet the contest winners and Charter have both posted settlement agreements. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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| Re: Now it's true? said by Nightfall :I have no idea if it was true or not. After hearing the Charter bashing and the fact that the person who won was lying, I don't care anymore. They weren't lying. They got the call, told they were the winners. A Comcast marketing weenie somewhere messed up. They weren't the winners, but were told they were. Comcast made it right tho, gave 'em a free 42" and 19" HDTV as a consolation prize.
So it ends well.
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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Grand Rapids, MI
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| Re: Now it's true? said by KrK :said by Nightfall :I have no idea if it was true or not. After hearing the Charter bashing and the fact that the person who won was lying, I don't care anymore. They weren't lying. They got the call, told they were the winners. A Comcast marketing weenie somewhere messed up. They weren't the winners, but were told they were. Comcast made it right tho, gave 'em a free 42" and 19" HDTV as a consolation prize. So it ends well. Told they were winners, but there was speculation that they were consolation winners which means that they were entitled to that 19 inch TV. There was too much drawing to conclusions in this and no real hard facts to back anything up. Still, as you said, it all ended well. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK | Right. The speculation is that they were consolation winners, but the marketing guy messed up and told them they'd won the grand prize. It's ok tho, both sides are happy now. | |
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vatorman
@verizon.net | I All cable tv companies suck! It has always been true. If you can't afford to pay off the winner don't do the contest.
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Hingham, MA | Re: I Er, FiOS is a great product, but Verizon hasn't done great distributing free TVs either... | |
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| Were is the list of winners? I went to the news link and read the article but at the end it gives a link to see the contest winners? I have tried the link but it goes no where? »www.charter.com/HDdad
Guess we cannot see the winners? If I was a runner up I would like to see the list. I mean if someone else got a better prize for the same prize qualification then they 2 would deserve that prize? Not a lawyer but it would seem so? | |
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| Re: Were is the list of winners? said by huckleberry1 :I went to the news link and read the article but at the end it gives a link to see the contest winners? I have tried the link but it goes no where? » www.charter.com/HDdadGuess we cannot see the winners? If I was a runner up I would like to see the list. I mean if someone else got a better prize for the same prize qualification then they 2 would deserve that prize? Not a lawyer but it would seem so? The Link works fine and there is a list of winners with the entry stories as well.
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| Fraud In order to sue for fraud, one has to PROVE a company actually committed fraud. If it's an honest mistake like a typo or some technology challenged bimbo at the office made a boo boo than all the company has to do is claim that's what happened. At the most a judge will make the company make 'reasonable' restitution like free service, a bigger TV (in this case) or a cash value of the original item. And if a law suite occured the company would appeal and it would drag on and on so the most reasonable thing to do is accept the settlement and just cancel your service if you hate them that much | |
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TVguy
@charter.com | Customer Happy see the update Charter satisfied customer and appoligised for miscommunication | |
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Bellundo
@teksavvy.com | Charter Promotion Promises 65 Inch HDTV, Delivers 19 Inch Olevia makes a 65 inch HDTV for about $4,500. Could've sent him that. Charter didn't state the brand name. | |
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Charter Promotion Promises 65 Inch HDTV, Delivers 19 Inch
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