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Jamestown, NC |  All greenfield's should be FTTH
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Matt
You can't fix stupid
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Jamestown, NC
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| Re: All greenfield's should be FTTH said by espaeth  :said by Matt :All greenfield deployments should be FTTH. Any company not running FTTH is shooting themselves in the foot and has absolutely no excuse for it. There's plenty of excuses not to do it. Spare parts, tech training, call center support documentation, new field toolkits, new video distribution mechanisms, different customer set top boxes, etc. No doubt they need to move in that direction (and I'm not arguing that they shouldn't), but it's not as easy as sitting down and saying "we should roll fiber now". Really? My ILEC did it ... Verizon did it ... why can't the big boys? | |
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| Re: All greenfield's should be FTTH Verizon is doing an actual "new" build. They're replacing a system with a new one but only when the customer changes over to the new system. They're not having two differenet set-top boxes as far as programming. Also VZW had to put in a new call center to handle FiOS many cable companies do not want to pay for that extra item right now let alone to rebuild an entire network that they just got done doing maybe 7 years ago. VZ had no option but to upgrade to Fiber since they are still using a system that is from the 80s and before. | |
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ILpt4U
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Lisle, IL
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| Switched Video/Data as well? So if a Cable Co (in this case, Cox) went this route, would it mean that these FTTP customers would be getting switched Video/Data as well? Similar to TelCo FTTP?
And then I would assume that the CableCo would need its own ONT for its network as well. Could you imagine moving into a new house that has multiple ONTs -- one from the TelCo and one from the CableCo -- now THAT would be broadband OPTIONS. | |
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| Re: Switched Video/Data as well? said by wierdo :No. Verizon, to use one prominent example, doesn't do switched IPTV. Their video is essentially a HFC system that happens to have the coax begin on the outside wall of your house, rather than down the street somewhere. I guess I didn't realize FiOS was not switched IPTV. I assumed it was. My mistake.
Is the internet portion of FiOS Switched? Or is it all analogous to CableCos offerings?
Maybe I'll wiki FiOS... | |
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join:2006-07-28
Grass Lake, MI | Re: Switched Video/Data as well? It is a dual system. They use IPTV for VOD and a HFC system for the rest. | |
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AZ_OGM
join:2007-01-12
Phoenix, AZ
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| Not coming to a neighborhood near you I could only see this happening in areas where fios is their primary competition. I don't see this happening in Phoenix anytime soon.
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| jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Re: Not coming to a neighborhood near you In Phoenix is it called "brownfield"? 
(just joking, I've spent a lot of time in Arizona and enjoyed it immensely.) | |
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| Corydon
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| Are there even any big new developments going in in Phoenix these days?
I lived there during the height of the real estate craze, when they were building new bedroom communities way up I-17 and down in places like Casa Grande.
I've also heard that they're one of the hardest hit real estate markets in the country...no big surprise...it was pretty obvious that there was way too much construction going on...
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AZ_OGM
join:2007-01-12
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: Not coming to a neighborhood near you Oh they are still building new houses. The big markets are Queen Creek, Buckeye, Maricopa, and Surprise along Loop 303. Now anybody who wants to commute on I-10 from Buckeye or Maricopa to downtown Phoenix 5 days a week had better be making 7 figures otherwise its just not worth it. | |
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batterup
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Netcong, NJ
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Know the truth and the truth shall make you free. Nice troll. | |
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batterup
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| Re: Know the truth and the truth shall make you free. said by Dogfather :Nice troll. Mods he called me a name whaaaahaaaaa. Ban him. | |
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY | hmm didnt cisco or somebody announce a new device that allows cablecompanies to do fttn and docsis and slowly switch over to ftth? | |
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dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ | FTTP C'mon cox, do it right. don't cheap out with fttp. do true ftth! | |
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| MRCUR
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Columbia, PA | Re: FTTP Isn't FTTP (P=premises and FTTH (H=home) the same thing?
I know that FTTN (N=node) is different, maybe that's what you're referring to? | |
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join:2005-02-18
Sacramento, CA
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| Re: FTTP You are correct. FTTP ,FTTH, and FTTB are all just different terms for the same thing. Your home lies on your premises (property) doesn't it? It wouldn't make sense to use the term Fiber-To-The-Home if it was connected to your business (or other non-home location), hence the more generic terms Fiber-To-The-Premises and Fiber-To-The-Building. | |
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batterup
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| Re: FTTP said by cyberbeing :You are correct. FTTP ,FTTH, and FTTB are all just different terms for the same thing. Your home lies on your premises (property) doesn't it? It wouldn't make sense to use the term Fiber-To-The-Home if it was connected to your business (or other non-home location), hence the more generic terms Fiber-To-The-Premises and Fiber-To-The-Building. Premises is the proper term as there is not necessarily a home or the fiber may not be placed on a particular building on the premises if there is more than one building. Premises covers it all.
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Premises are land and buildings together considered as a property. This usage arose from property owners finding the word in their title deeds, where it originally correctly meant "the aforementioned; what this document is about", from Latin prae-missus = "placed before".
FTTP, Fiber To The Premises/Property, is what Verizon calls it and Verizon is who is doing it. | |
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robertfl
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Mary Esther, FL
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| why? it's already fibere on the street.. all they need to dew is replace the copper to the house.
and since there doing the 1.0 ghz upgrade nationwide, now would be a great time to dew it.
the set top boxes wouldn't have to be replaced, though the IPG looks like total shit.
what will this do to our services? probably nothing.
cox is about 3 years behind the times when it comes to channels, selection, speeds and their website.
it's about time they stepped into the future.
and what's with this "generation cox"
-Rob
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Cox Explores Fiber To The Home
