  Chiyo Save Me Konata-Chan Premium join:2003-02-20 Minneapolis, MN clubs: | thats the goverment for you since when have they started caring for the people who elect them? not in a long time sadly I'm not surprised anymore... -- My Blog: »abanzai.animeblogger.net/ | |
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edit: June 14th, @12:35PM
| Sprint do not pro-rate ETF This article is not correct. Some, not all, wireless providers pro-rate their ETF. Sprint does not yet, they announced in Nov 2007 that they would do so sometime in 2008.
My guess is that if/when Sprint relax their $200 ETF then many customers will dump them, purely because Sprint Customer Service is so bad.
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 |   RARPSL
join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY
| Re: Sprint do not pro-rate ETF said by nmarrion :Some, not all, wireless providers pro-rate their ETF. Calling what the providers offer "pro-rating" is a lie since it is actually only discounting the remaining amount due if the contact is ended early. For it to be true pro-rating, the reduction per month must be set at a value where the sum of the reductions by the end of the term must equal the original amount.
IOW: If the EFT is $240 and the term is 24 months, you reduce the remaining EFT by $10 each month.
I question the EFT amount also since I feel it is set too high. The providers claim it is to reimburse them for giving me a discount on the handset but the difference between the price of a "free" (or discounted) handset and buying it outright from the provider is less than the EFT that they claim they are owed due to me not buying the handset but them selling/giving it at a discounted/subsidized price. | |
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| I got out of my contract with Sprint even before they said they were considering prorated ETF. They had a change in services that voided many customer's contracts. I am no longer going with any company that requires a contract for cell service.
Other countries around the world has some type of contract also, but the US is getting worse. And now with the internet useage fee. We are going back in time instead of ahead with technology, yet the majority of us think we have the best consumer services. Sad day in America....... | |
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| said by TK Junk Mail :... national regulation as an alternative every single time. Especially when state rules vary greatly from state to state. It is the same reason that the auto industry tries over and over to kill the California EPA regs that conflict with national EPA regs. It costs a lot to tailor your business from state to state and adds a lot of lawyers and lobbyists to your payroll to deal with many government agencies. Much preferable to deal with only 1. So just meet the most stringent (the CA Regs in this case) and you will (should?) meet the others. Their problem is trying the cut corners by having different versions instead of just one that will meet the most stringent version. I'd guess that the cost of going this way would be LESS than the cost of all those "lawyers and lobbyists to your payroll". | |
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| said by TK Junk Mail :... national regulation as an alternative every single time. Especially when state rules vary greatly from state to state. It is the same reason that the auto industry tries over and over to kill the California EPA regs that conflict with national EPA regs. It costs a lot to tailor your business from state to state and adds a lot of lawyers and lobbyists to your payroll to deal with many government agencies. Much preferable to deal with only 1. "Faced with the prospect of multiple state policies on this issue, Verizon believes that appropriate federal action to establish a national policy is preferable." -Verizon Don't feed the shill.. Move along nothing to see here. -- Reach out and Tap someone! | |
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join:2000-10-05 Collegeville, PA | So? That's what a contract is. If you break a contract you should expect a penalty of some sort. Provided they are actually disclosing the fee, what's wrong with them? | |
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join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC | I think the problem is that invoking such contract provisions is in violation of the law in some states. More generally, it's bad because it's a barrier to competition. | |
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join:2003-07-20 Alabaster, AL
| Re: So? That's what a contract is. said by axus :I think the problem is that invoking such contract provisions is in violation of the law in some states. More generally, it's bad because it's a barrier to competition. Really, which states? Can you provide details?
Really, its simple, you promise to stay with them for x time and they give you money off a phone. Its purely voluntary, it benefits some people but not others. I don't tell other people what they can't go month to month - why can't they have the same courtesy about me getting a long-term deal? | |
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join:2007-06-22 Portland, OR edit: June 13th, @06:11PM
| bust a deal and face the wheel! This is not the job of the FCC to interfere with private contracts. IF people are too stupid to read the contract then doom on them. It i also why I gone the pre-paid route. | |
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| business law... There's this little thing called Business Law and it tends to impact these things called "contracts." Basically, the carrier have a lot of the bargaining power, while the individual has very little. This is how/why the courts choose to frown upon ETF(s). The courts have tended to try and protect the little guy. | |
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join:2001-07-21 Green Valley, AZ | Yes To Government Thank goodness the FEDS are going to do something. Right or wrong, at least the crooked Cell carriers will have to take notice and reduce some of there high fees. I say yes to the Government coming to the rescue. ABOUT TIME. | |
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  Dogfather Altitude is your friend Premium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA edit: June 14th, @08:12AM
| Pay full price for the phone Can't you avoid any ETF by paying full price for the phone and doing an month to month plan? | |
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join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA
| Re: Pay full price for the phone Some carriers make that difficult- though it's often not so much the carriers policy as much as salesmen hoping to make the highest commissions.
In general I support subsidized phone plans, but there should be unsubsidized ETF-free options as well. | |
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  AbBaZaBbA Premium join:2002-07-10 Long Beach, CA | . why not get a plan you want to be locked into. Such as the sprint sero 500 minutes $30 a month, unlimited text unlimited data.
If sprint goes under before my 2 year contract is up i'm going to be very sad. | |
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