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| said by moonpuppy :Of course not. Less for more. just what the CORPORATE GREED MACHINES want.
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| Newsgroups are part of the Internet Newsgroups are part of the Internet and I have used them since the internet started. I would be mad if my ISP dropped them because I would have to subscribe to a service.
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| Re: Newsgroups are part of the Internet "I guess that 99% of mom and pop internet users do not even know they exist so they will get very few complaints."
When we signed people up I used to tell people about newsgroup access. I used to hear replies like "Oh you mean like CNN?" After a while I gave up on anyone understanding or knowing what newsgroups are and just stopped telling people about it.
We dropped our newsgroups several years ago. I didn't want it to happen but then I was asked for the number of people who used newsgroups. When I looked at the usage and divided out the cost of offering newsgroups by the number of people that were using newsgroups it worked out that each user was costing two to three times what they were paying for service. | |
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| said by bgraham :Newsgroups are part of the Internet and I have used them since the internet started. I would be mad if my ISP dropped them because I would have to subscribe to a service. I guess that 99% of mom and pop internet users do not even know they exist so they will get very few complaints. I wouldn't call myself "mom and pop" I've been on the internet for nearly 9 years now and I consider myself pretty knowledgable. I've never used a newsgroup or even been to one. Not sure what one even looks like. I really don't see what the big deal is. Enlighten me. | |
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Never Enough Time
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join:2001-10-05
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| Re: Newsgroups are part of the Internet There really is no big deal except for the people who use their ISP provided newsgroup accounts primarily for warez/movie downloads. Now those people will need to pay for that ability.
Otherwise as another poster pointed out thanks to google and a few other sites you can pretty much access newsgroups as normal via the web, and quite frankly accessing them via the web for actual discussion purposes (thier original use) is actually easier to use and makes discussions easier to follow.
As for what are newsgroups? »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
Seriously though, piracy is pretty much the only thing still driving the newsgroup industry, it's also the #1 cause of increase in costs to the newsgroup industry due to the immense amount of storage required.
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join:2000-10-05
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| Hate to say this, but if you have been on the Internet for 9 years and are not aware of what a Newgroup is, I would not call you knowledgable. They have been around a long time, and any knowledgable Internet user would know what they are.
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join:2001-09-22
Westminster, MD
| said by BF69 :said by bgraham :Newsgroups are part of the Internet and I have used them since the internet started. I would be mad if my ISP dropped them because I would have to subscribe to a service. I guess that 99% of mom and pop internet users do not even know they exist so they will get very few complaints. I wouldn't call myself "mom and pop" I've been on the internet for nearly 9 years now and I consider myself pretty knowledgable. I've never used a newsgroup or even been to one. Not sure what one even looks like. I really don't see what the big deal is. Enlighten me. No offense, but it sounds contradictory to claim to be a knowledgeable nine year "veteran" of the intertubes and not know what Usenet and newsgroups are...for the record, they're in the same aisle with the ftp's and whois.  | |
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The client programs provided advanced functions still not available in most forums and blogs. For example, you could block entire threads with a single command. Most modern forums only allow you to block the poster, not the replies to their posts.
As with email, posters pick a subject line for each message. This is in addition to the group's topic. That allows conversations to split, shift, merge and reform naturally, and also allows people to block subjects that don't interest them. | |
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| said by BF69 :said by bgraham :Newsgroups are part of the Internet and I have used them since the internet started. I would be mad if my ISP dropped them because I would have to subscribe to a service. I guess that 99% of mom and pop internet users do not even know they exist so they will get very few complaints. I wouldn't call myself "mom and pop" I've been on the internet for nearly 9 years now and I consider myself pretty knowledgable. I've never used a newsgroup or even been to one. Not sure what one even looks like. I really don't see what the big deal is. Enlighten me. newsgroups=old school usually unmoderated forums | |
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Volvo sucks
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join:2001-02-04
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| Re: VZ said by whiteyonenh :While Verizon may still offer it, they're missing a significant amount of binary groups, therefore it's like they don't offer it at all. Bull. Verizon's newsgroup service is excellent. I've never found something I wanted in a group they didn't carry.
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| Re: VZ I have VZ FIOS and there aren't many missing newsgroups that I would use.
As far as binary files in newsgroups are concerned, I agree it was a compromise but it works great IMHO. If anyone is using an email program for Newsgroups good luck to them. Sure it will work, but a dedicated Newsgroup reader with PAR and RAR built in makes it all so easy and at least the one I use is free. | |
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| said by whiteyonenh :While Verizon may still offer it, they're missing a significant amount of binary groups, therefore it's like they don't offer it at all. Not everyone uses newsgroups for thievery, but since that seems to be the main use these days, I wouldn't mind seeing ISPs stop the service. | |
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as Mr. Pink as they come
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| said by whiteyonenh :While Verizon may still offer it, they're missing a significant amount of binary groups, therefore it's like they don't offer it at all. Yeah. they dropped all the ones people go to premium providers for.
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| No Newsgroups? The newsgroups was one of the only things keeping me on Time Warner. If newsgroups go away, it looks like I'll be switching to DSL at some point.
I currently have Roadrunner Turbo only for the upload speed (10down/1up), and frankly I could get DSL for significantly cheaper (3down/0.75up), but looking at it from a financial perspective of going to DSL and having to pay for decent newsgroups, I would be paying less to switch to DSL.
I was thinking about switching providers a while back, but with Time Warner including newsgroups, I felt it to be a better deal, now if they don't offer them anymore, what is keeping me here? They still haven't fixed my signal issue where on hot days sometimes my upstream goes so high that the modem drops. Of course I don't hold TWC totally responsible for that, it's also the apartment building I'm in with RG59/U lines (built in the 70's, probably wired for cable in the late 80's/early 90's). | |
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PBX Tech
Theory of a Deadman on XM 48 Squizz
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| Re: Newgroups Is my Giganews service available on any other ports besides 119?
Yes, you may also use ports 80 and 23 to access your Giganews account.
lets see them block port 80.
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Bye George, 1937-2008
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|  Per Gig usage, no newsgroups...
They will, however, continue to give you a bill every month.
Ah well, I kid, I kid. I never found newsgroup access from any ISP to be reliable/meet my needs within the last 5 or 6 years. I'm actually suprised ISPs still carried Usenet, specifically the binary groups. I don't know how many people this will really impact overall; I'm sure some people here will be effected, but in the grand scheme of things, I dont know. Not one of my coworkers even knows what Usenet is.
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| Re: Per Gig usage, no newsgroups... said by v35_pilot :said by Jeffrey : I never found newsgroup access from any ISP to be reliable/meet my needs within the last 5 or 6 years. TW's binary retention rate was something like 3 days and their completion rate was a miserable 50-60%, as I remember their service from my pre-FiOS days. It was that bad, eh? I had Optimum Online from 1999 to mid=-2005, and from 2002 to 2005, newsgroup completion was almost as terrible, and the download speeds were like 50KB/sec. On 10mbit/1mbit at the time too.
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| Re: Per Gig usage, no newsgroups... said by Jeffrey :said by v35_pilot :said by Jeffrey : I never found newsgroup access from any ISP to be reliable/meet my needs within the last 5 or 6 years. TW's binary retention rate was something like 3 days and their completion rate was a miserable 50-60%, as I remember their service from my pre-FiOS days. It was that bad, eh? I had Optimum Online from 1999 to mid=-2005, and from 2002 to 2005, newsgroup completion was almost as terrible, and the download speeds were like 50KB/sec. On 10mbit/1mbit at the time too. I have both cablevision and TWC(home and school respectively). Cablevision retention is still poor(i think about a week for two for completes) and is now 120KB/s. TWCs used to be as bad as you say, but about a year ago, they outsourced the newsgroups. Since then its been between 400KBps to 800KBps with 99 day retention for me. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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| said by swintec :said by v35_pilot :said by Jeffrey : I never found newsgroup access from any ISP to be reliable/meet my needs within the last 5 or 6 years. TW's binary retention rate was something like 3 days and their completion rate was a miserable 50-60%, as I remember their service from my pre-FiOS days. Wrong. They recently switched earlier this year to outsourcing to Newshosting and there retention shot up to about 100 days. They actually had a pretty good thing going on for there subscribers. Newshosting is highwinds. nuff said about how crappy anyone that uses them are.
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Bye George, 1937-2008
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| Re: Per Gig usage, no newsgroups... said by dvd536 :Newshosting is highwinds. nuff said about how crappy anyone that uses them are. I'm not sure I understand your statement. It could be because I'm drunk.
I've used Newshosting for almost 3 years now (I think), and that was after a stint with Usenetserver and Giganews. Usenetserver's completion rate was terrible for a 6 month period, which is when I switched to Newshosting and never looked back. Giganews capped me which is why I switched to Usenetserver. (Yes, from GN, I had been downloading 300GB/moonth or more, and they decided that a few months of that was enough.)
Did you not like Newshosting?
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| Re: Per Gig usage, no newsgroups... I've used Newshosting for almost 3 years now (I think), and that was after a stint with Usenetserver and Giganews. Usenetserver's completion rate was terrible for a 6 month period, which is when I switched to Newshosting and never looked back. Giganews capped me which is why I switched to Usenetserver. (Yes, from GN, I had been downloading 300GB/moonth or more, and they decided that a few months of that was enough.)
Did you not like Newshosting?
Newshosting set up a RR-only server that was pathetic. NH referred requests/complaints to RR and RR referred you to NH. | |
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| although the ride is over, this statement is not true. they did something early in the year that stretched retention to 100 days. although the header retention was only 30 days, if you created nzb files from Newzbin, you could get reliable completion rate binaries as old as 100 days from TWC. -sigh-
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Dragoonfly
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| It's my feeling that most people will not even notice. Between sites like this which offer forums, plus blogs that are popping up all over, the need for newsgroups to share information is nearly gone. Some may say, "What about binaries?" Well, there are many sites on the web that offer binaries. So, there is no longer any marketing value in offering free usenet. Where there is no marketing value in a feature, you can bet it will be removed. | |
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| RE: Time Warner Cable To Stop Offering Newsgroup Access Well, we could all get together and file a class-action suit to either get them to bring back the usenet groups as part of their Internet service, or charge us less for incomplete Internet service, yet advertising Internet service, and not advertising limited Internet service. When I hear an advertisement for Internet service, I presume that it is the WHOLE Internet, and not just the part that is profitable to the ISP. I am sure that others will agree with me on this.
Usenet is the main way that we get Linux support, as well as support on a myriad of technical issues. Without it, it is not the Internet.
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AnonProxy
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| Ohhh boy Why are there so many silly people in the world?
1. You want faster speeds but you want to pay for nothing. I have a feeling that some of those complaining loudly about price and access don't even know what newsgroups are.
Sadly everyone wants something for free...but the answer actually is, TWC will probably not raise rates as fast due to cost cutting...but then again it just might be a profit move.
2. What has driven this switch or drop of newsgroups? file sharing sites and peer to peer sites. 94% of all newsgroup traffic is what, files sharing...by total throughput.
3. For the person that has been using "newsgroups" since the beginning of the "Internet" it is unfortunate that in all that time you didn't figure out that if your ISP stopped offering newsgroup access, you don't need to "subscribe to a service.
4. FOr the guys that think VZ's newsgroup access is top notch. Evidently you don't know newsgroup access or have never used it. VZ's newsgroup access is sub standard for sure. | |
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| Re: Ohhh boy said by AnonProxy :3. For the person that has been using "newsgroups" since the beginning of the "Internet" it is unfortunate that in all that time you didn't figure out that if your ISP stopped offering newsgroup access, you don't need to "subscribe to a service. I fall into this category, but I also recognize that USENET today is nothing like what it was 15 or 20 years ago. As far as my needs are concerned, it's outlived its usefulness, like gopher, archie, and a whole host of other tools.
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
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| Internet Evolution Anyone remember UUCP, WAIS, or Gopher? NNTP has had a long and enjoyable life, but audience is so small and most of the discussion value has moved to forum applications like this one.
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oh well, no more newsgroups for me...twas a good 4 years (giga to newshosting to roadrunner to nothing)
forgive me here but...i hope they go under because i cant figure out what im paying 200 a month for, shitty internet, 1 box and some channels
oh and the phone, cant forget that, i had more options with bell south... | |
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| Comcast tried this crap . . . Comcast tried eliminating newsgroups access when they took over @Home, remember? There was such a stink & uproar that they finally contracted with Giganews to provide subscribers with 1gb of access as part of what you pay for with Comcast HSI. That 1gb has since been increased to 2gb and headers do not count, which they did with the old 1gb plan.
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| Blocking ports to stop usenet access Someone mentioned blocking ports to prevent usenet downloading...
Won't matter if you get usenetserver.com as you can select many other STANDARD ports, even port 80, to access usenetserver's big server farm on NNTP. TW won't be blocking the spam port the browsers all use. UNS has many other ports and the user can redirect the access path to get the fastest downloads, should TW try to redirect access to a black hole. You can easily bypass the spoofed DNS and use the IP directly.
Unlimited service on 10 simultaneous ports with no censoring is $15/mo.
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join:2001-11-10
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| Personal experience I toyed with newsgroups back when I was in high school. I found them unwieldy and not very user-friendly. This was using various types of newsgroups software. It was just too difficult to find what I wanted, and then you had various ISPs filtering the groups so if you found something via web search, it was a crap shoot whether you could hit that group. Shortly after I stopped using them.
I think the people who still use them are (a) using them for illegal purposes or (b) using them for pr0n. My opinion. | |
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| Re: Personal experience I have been participating in a discussion of a nerdish hobby on Usenet for well over 10 years. There are discussions for every hobby under the sun on the Usenets. There are also groups for every subset of science and technology, from weather to digital TV; upscale audio; flea power ham radio; etc.
Usenet is text and has none of the absurd overhead of HTML (usually) and is well suited to measured discourse.
Google Groups is one of the worst things to happen to Usenet as it allowed the riff-raff to post, without the aptitude test inherent in setting up a third party client.
I already left Earthlink via Time-Warner due to absurd cost, lousy security, and incredibly bad customer service. Today I am more certain I made the right move.
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| Re: Personal experience said by DavePR :Google Groups is one of the worst things to happen to Usenet as it allowed the riff-raff to post, without the aptitude test inherent in setting up a third party client. Thanks for making me feel old.
Specifically, about 15 years ago AOL was considered one of the worst things to happen to the Internet "as it allowed the riff-raff to post" on Usenet News (and other places), "without the aptitude test inherent in setting up" an Internet access connection.
Google Groups wasn't the worst thing to happen to Usenet News in terms of "allowing the riff-raff to post", it was the worst thing to happen to Usenet in terms of allowing people to bypass their ISP's Usenet News server. ISPs could see that people weren't using the news server's text-only groups anymore, since the end users could get them on Google Groups, so the ISPs started shutting down their Usenet News servers for cost savings.
Google Groups also blurred the lines between Usenet News and web-based message boards, making the Joe Average user of text-only groups not really understand about Newsreaders and the like. The upshot of the blurring was that Usenet News servers were no longer required because everyone was headed to Google Groups.
So now we're seeing the death knell of Usenet News, which has been replaced by the web-based message boards known as Google Groups. Usenet News is about 0.3% text-only messages, and 99.97% binary-only groups, and ISPs have been trying to shed the latter for years. Google Groups has helped them get rid of Usenet News and its 99.97% binary-only groups, (generally) without offending the folks who still use text-only groups. | |
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Reach Out and Touch Someone
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| Access? I think the topic might be a little misleading at least in the way it's worded. They will not prevent Newsgroup access but will simply stop offering a USENET service. Big difference! Users will still be able to access Newsgroups, they'll just have to subscribe to another News service. Just another way for the ISPs to try and save.
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kd6cae
P2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
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| Some usenet curiosity questions I've dabbled in Usenet newsgroups since my days with Verizon in 2003. I've always liked the concept of usenet where a message posted to one server will find it's way to other servers. In this way, if the local ISP usenet server went down, you could connect to another usenet server and still follow any discussions or do any downloading you may wish to do. If a forum or blog goes down, you can't even read any threads or discussion at all until it comes back, as the content isn't distributed across many separate servers.
I never understood though why local ISP servers limited the throughput of incoming binaries, when the folks using the server would be on-network?
Finally, it seems even some dedicated usenet providers such as supernews are outsourcing to Giganews, and they use to have their own usenet server farm network. How many separate usenet server networks are there nowadays? I can only think of giganews, Easynews, usenetserver, and newshosting. I believe Verizon may be the only actual internet service provider that still has their own usenet server setup? I wonder what made usenet suddenly go from something everyone knew they could use if they wanted, to something noone hardly knows exists nowadays? Interesting changes for sure, and I'd guess alot of it has to do with the incredible amount of dedicated bandwidth required to run a full usenet feed? | |
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| the bigger picture... No offense, but I think people here are a bit short-sighted as to what is really happening.
Sure, you may say it's just a simple cost-cutting measure aimed at trimming infrequently used services, but us tin-foil-hat types really know what is going down.
I say that there is a quiet push from the **AA types to close a possible legal loophole in copyright violations that Newsgroup access by ISP provides.
I can clearly imagine that now, if your ISP provides usenet access, and you are downloading that latest Micheal Bay wonder in all of it's DivX glory, and some day when the MPAA/RIAA comes knocking (read: kicking down doors with their compliance team [subread: corporate SWAT]), in front of a judge you could claim ignorance and say "Hey, I was only downloading what the ISP provided".
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Mine Hill, NJ | newsgroups? they still exist? who cares, just read them through google. that story is such a non issue, i'm surprised twc offered them this long. | |
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Time Warner Cable To Stop Offering Newsgroup Access
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