  Rob In Deo speramus Premium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL edit: August 29th, @05:18PM
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| Here's his top 20 contributers:
said by »www.opensecrets.org/politicians/···00008094 :1 Time Warner $120,750 2 Walt Disney Co $99,350 3 Vivendi $74,591 4 American Assn for Justice $72,000 5 American Fedn of St/Cnty/Munic Employees $63,500 6 National Assn of Realtors $63,000 6 Viacom Inc $63,000 8 National Education Assn $55,000 9 News Corp $52,250 10 National Cable & Telecommunications Assn $48,800 11 Sony Corp of America $48,750 12 United Auto Workers $47,000 13 Carpenters & Joiners Union $44,500 14 Service Employees International Union $41,500 15 AT&T Inc $41,400 16 Operating Engineers Union $40,100 16 William Morris Agency $40,100 18 Gang, Tyre et al $40,000 19 American Federation of Teachers $39,900 20 Laborers Union $38,650 It looks like 5 of his top 10 contributers are in the TV/Movie/Music industries.
Sure enough, when you segment it by industry:
said by »www.opensecrets.org/politicians/···00008094 :1 TV/Movies/Music $1,088,246 2 Lawyers/Law Firms $749,177 3 Real Estate $283,310 4 Public Sector Unions $214,900 5 Pro-Israel $209,670 6 Building Trade Unions $174,950 7 Misc Unions $148,050 8 Retired $130,150 9 Securities & Investment $115,000 10 Health Professionals $106,648 11 Misc Manufacturing & Distributing $104,900 12 Business Services $103,600 13 Lobbyists $95,450 14 Transportation Unions $85,550 15 Human Rights $83,626 16 Insurance $79,290 17 Pharmaceuticals/Health Products $73,947 18 Beer, Wine & Liquor $70,500 19 Misc Finance $68,000 20 Industrial Unions $67,000 TV/Movies/Music interests give him far more money than anyone else. | |
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  jjoshua Premium join:2001-06-01 Scotch Plains, NJ | Great... Another politician is talking technology The politicians fixed the spam problem and now they're going to fix the piracy problem.
Welcome to China. | |
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 |   FiL Premium join:2005-08-16 Silver Spring, MD | Re: Great... Another politician is talking technology Welcome to New China...Were already there, with the China-esque citizen spying programs, ISP throttling and the such... | |
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 |   swhx7 Premium join:2006-07-23 Elbonia
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| Practically everything that anyone ever accesses on the internet is copyrighted - just about every string of text more than a few words, every image, script, and file of any kind. There's no way any automatic process can distinguish legitimate transfers from "piracy". | |
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| Re: Great... Another politician is talking technology said by swhx7 :Practically everything that anyone ever accesses on the internet is copyrighted - just about every string of text more than a few words, every image, script, and file of any kind. There's no way any automatic process can distinguish legitimate transfers from "piracy". Exactly. This is another one of those "suck up to the *AA" bills that stick the ISPs or whomever else with the burden of actually implementing it.
I would love to know how they're going to determine what is pirated content and what isn't. Going by the *AA rhetoric, all of You Tube would be pirated content, except for those labels who have struck a deal with You Tube...oh and yea that's another thing the ISPs will be responsible for monitoring.
Quite pathetic Berman. Lame effort. | |
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good luck with that policy. | |
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  jgkolt Premium join:2004-02-21 Lakewood, OH clubs: | blah are they that out of touch with technology | |
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join:2005-11-17 Springfield, IL | wow The network buildout requirements for this will be insane just to even be able to analyze all the data! | |
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| Re: wow said by barn25 :The network buildout requirements for this will be insane just to even be able to analyze all the data! Therefore, either a lot of false accusations, or selective targeting of certain sites or files.
The traditional "common carrier" status has been a bargain: no filtering, and no liability for what the users do (same as with telephones, railroads etc.). If filtering is allowed, will the ISPs become liable for failure to catch the infringers?
Edit: Oh, and who's going to pay for all this intensive processing of every packet on the network, to detect contraband? Every customer, of course. It would drive internet prices way up, and slow the traffic. Call it the "Hollywood tax". The US is already falling behind other advanced countries in internet speed and choices. | |
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| Re: wow said by swhx7 :The US is already falling behind other advanced countries in internet speed and choices. That is just a red herring... -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum | |
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  furlonium Computer Over? Virus equals Very Yes?
join:2002-05-08 Bethlehem, PA | How would they know?
Would they flag certain things? Maybe record your search strings and certain keywords would be flagged?
How would this work for p2p? Newsgroups?
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Hope the ISP's got their cleats on, if they are going to hang out on that slippery slope. Next they could be filtering for everything else under the sun.  | |
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| Re: How would they know? said by hopeflicker :Im willing to bet this clown has pirated content on his home system somewhere. Yeah maybe some Gay Porn (you were thinking it ) | |
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| Re: How would they know? said by Toguro :said by hopeflicker :Im willing to bet this clown has pirated content on his home system somewhere. Yeah maybe some Gay Porn (you were thinking it  ) you were the one that brought it up (gay porn)  -- People pray to God because they're told to. | |
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join:2004-07-11 Livonia, MI | "shotgun to take out a fly comes to mind"
LOL - brings to mind the Monty Python's skit on big game hunting with bugs. Thats the one where the use airplanes, bombs, missiles and machine guns to hunt them down. | |
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join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | all that will happen is people will encrypt p2p traffic and make the clients use ports more common to World of Warcraft clients then normal P2P. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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  packetscan Premium join:2004-10-19 Bridgeport, CT clubs: | Corruption Another government official is purchased. This is getting out of control. -- Reach out and Tap someone! | |
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  danza_ Premium join:2002-08-23 San Jose, CA | Why spend all the money on filtering out contents when you can just increase bandwidth? The filter will most likely affect legitimate users and cause all sorts of headaches too. | |
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join:2003-05-01 Portland, OR | Good Job He is representing his constituents. I hope the other politicians do the same and vote this bill down. | |
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join:2003-11-28 West Topsham, VT | Icky Pooh Hmm... What will he want next? For the phone companies to send us nasty letters if we say something he doesn't like on our land lines or cellphones? The last thing we need is more Nanny State government. Ick. | |
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| Privacy issue As an example it is one thing to obtain a warrant to wiretap a phone as part of a criminal investigation. It would be quite different if officers listened in on general calls at random fishing for possible wrong doing. This totally crosses that type of line. ISP records on customers should always remain confidential unless their is a probable cause and a specific warrant. No fishing expeditions. This is a Civil Liberties issue. | |
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join:2005-06-03 Bedford, MA | Re: Privacy issue and you really believe the government Gestapo is going to worry about whether or not anything is legal? | |
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join:2001-06-02 Edwards, CO | I call BS There isn't a single move theater within 60 miles of my house that is showing the new movie "War" ... Guess where I going to HAVE TO get it from? | |
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  MoeDumb I already have a Messiah. Premium join:2002-09-23 | Bought and paid for I'd bet my last torrent. | |
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join:2003-01-01 Boca Raton, FL | ATT No surprise there.. This stuff is getting scary. -- WRTSL54GS v2 + WRT54G v2 | |
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join:2003-02-19 Waterloo, IA clubs: | Ghostbusters anyone? Am I the only one that thinks he looks like Egon Spangler  -- Fiddelke.org | |
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 |   Jason Levine Premium join:2001-07-13 Albany, NY | Whatever you do, don't cross the pirated streams!  | |
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  texans20 Johama McBama 08 Premium join:2002-09-28 Texas! clubs:
| The Records Most of his money comes from Time Warner, in second place we have Walt Disney and in third place we have Vivendi. He also gets a lot of his money from other places such as News Corp (what?), Viacom, and Sony. So yea, he is getting a lot of money from people who don't care for piracy very much.
»www.opensecrets.org/politicians/···00008094 »www.opensecrets.org/politicians/···00008094
He has recieved contributions from both the MPAA and the RIAA, along with the ASCAP, Clear Channel, NAB, and several record companies.
The MPAA PAC #1 reciepent of funds is, you guessed it, Howard Berman. The RIAA gave the most money to Robert Wexler (R - FL) but Berman is high up there in what looks to be about 3rd place.
»www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.···cle=2006 »www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.···cle=2006 -- The true patriot is motivated by a sense of responsibility, and out of self interest -- for himself, his family, and the future of his country -- to resist government abuse of power. He rejects the notion that patriotism means obedience to the state. | |
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join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: The Records Why am I not surprised... he works for these companies... NOT those the voters. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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join:2005-02-13 Belvidere, NJ | This name rings a bell. Did this guy used to be an entertainment lawyer? | |
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  KrK Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy Premium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | *Sigh* Maybe we should just lock people in cells in advance to make sure they are "Protected" from accessing copyrighted content.... | |
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join:2007-08-21 Wilmington, DE | It's a shame this has a shot at being passed. We would never think about doing this for phone, or mail, or anything else. Since the internet is new though and they don't understand it, we have these laws being proposed with reasonable chances of being passed. | |
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join:2001-06-28 House Springs, MO | When did isp become police? When was it our responcibility as isp to police what people do on the ineternet, it would be like ATT having to monitor every drug deal and hand there info to the DEA, i think the isp would sue over this, i dont think it'll happen.! | |
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join:2007-01-30 Beachwood, NJ | Re: When did isp become police? SSL Account
just get giganews with encrypted SSL account, your newsreader of choice like NewsBin, go to »www.binsearch.info/ to get your "non-copyrighted legal" nzb file and you are done. | |
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join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | people want the ISPs to be the police and Cable TV to be the Nanny nowdays. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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