 moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | Interesting I wonder how many of these same people going to FIOS are going because they have a bad taste from dealing with Comcast. How many are just going to see what is on the other side. | |
|
 | 
NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
| Re: Interesting I switched June 1. Of couarse I wanted FIOS but I was much more interested in what I'd be getting for my dollar. FIOS offered me faster speeds and more channels than Comcast although only for a few dollars less but thats still more money in my pocket. I called Comcast to see if they would match or beat Verizon's offer and they didn't budge.
Three months later now, I'm getting flyers in my mailbox at least once every week from Comcast offering a realy great deal on tripple play packages. Unfortunately, now that I've experienced FIOS I'm not willing to go back to Comcast which I often experienced pixelation (sp) when watching my favorite programs. | |
|
| | moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | Re: Interesting Only once a week?
I have comcast and they call me non-stop along with flyers every other day. | |
|
| | |
NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA | Re: Interesting LOL Luckily for me its only about once a week. I just rip them up and toss them. Now im thinking about dropping my TiVo service and checking out Verizon's DVR. Just need to see if it can compete with TiVo. | |
|
| | |
| 
Maarvin
Premium
join:2005-04-11
Denver, CO
 ·Comcast
| How interesting that some people might have a bad taste in their mouths from Comcast. Here in Denver, all cable is underground and Comcast uses fiber to the node (FTTN). Reliability is high, speed is excellent and consistent. There are rarely outages or any sluggishness during peak periods. I'm quite happy with it and I am sure that others will feel the same when fiber upgrades reach other areas, and they will.
--
The first rule of fiber optics: you do not talk about fiber optics, ever!
| |
|
| | moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Interesting It depends on where you are. Friends of mine have Comcast because that is all that's available yet they hate the constant price hikes and they don't have HSI through them.
Lately, I have been having a LOT of pixalization on a lot of channels and my cable is underground too. | |
|
| 
dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by moonpuppy  :I wonder how many of these same people going to FIOS are going because they have a bad taste from dealing with Comcast. How many are just going to see what is on the other side. FIOS causes cable companies to offer decent speeds ONLY IN FIOS AREAS!
--
You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
|
| | 
furlonium
Computer Over? Virus equals Very Yes?
join:2002-05-08
Bethlehem, PA | Re: Interesting RCN offers 20mbps here, but no FiOS 
Hopefully soon. | |
|
| filcro1
join:2006-09-18
New York, NY
| DSL –vs- MSO –vs- FIOS- vs- Wireless –vs- Satellite –vs- BPL =’s lousy service for America.
The United States is so far behind other countries from a communications perspective. Who loses? America.
The FCC needs to open the U.S. markets.
1. Open up the 700mhz band for open choice
2. Let consumers choose their equipment independent of carriers
3. Wireless – pick your own phone or device
4. MSO Operators – Allow people to use the tuners on their TV’s
5. MSO operators – Allow people to purchase their own cable boxes
6. MSO operators – Allow cable cards that work
7. The FCC needs to set min standards for cell phones
I think the whole system stinks. Everyone is carving out monopolies from a geographic or platform or equipment perspective and the consumer loses.
Blue-ray, 720P, 1080i, 420i, 420p, DTS, DD, THX…. What a joke….. who loses? The consumer.
iPOD, MP3, WMA, Flash Video…. What a joke… who loses? The consumer.
The thieves are watching the hen house and the American consumer is dinner 24/7
Corruption is alive and well. Too bad the head of the FCC does not have to run for election | |
|
|
| chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA
| Re: Switching providers 10% is not a lot???? I guess you do not own any business.In Average FIOS is about 12-18 months. If you can take 10% away from competitors which have been established for decades in a year that is very important. It shows a strong market presence and aggressive penetration. | |
|
| | |
| | | DarkSly
join:2004-12-10
Danvers, MA
| Re: Switching providers FiOS is a niche product for Speed Junkies and early adopters.
By the time the masses are interested in Speeds that are offered through FiOS the MSOs will be offering comparable speeds (and still offer 24 hour tech support and sub $100 service calls)
Most customers who currently have a Broadband connection live under the rule "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
The test is to grab the customers who still use Dial Up services to connect to the Internet.
I actually met a person today who used Dial up ($21.95) and had POTS phone service ($55) just to connect to the internet, and I am sure there are thousands out there just like him. | |
|
Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL | Verizon FiOSTV is "BMW" and Comcast is "Hyundai" I would love if the President of Verizon's FiOS Department would make a public statement comparing FiOSTV to BMW and Comcast to Hyundai.  | |
|
| chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA | Re: Verizon FiOSTV is "BMW" and Comcast is "Hyundai" Heck no... he should keep Comcast as the "BMW" but make FiosTV a "Ferrari" and if they are talking about fios internet make an Indy Car | |
|
| 
china crisis
join:2003-05-28
| said by Rob :I would love if the President of Verizon's FiOS Department would make a public statement comparing FiOSTV to BMW and Comcast to Hyundai. Yeah and I guess he would say " I know Comcast has 20 times more subscribers in this area, but our product is still better." | |
|
| |
Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| Re: Verizon FiOSTV is "BMW" and Comcast is "Hyundai" said by china crisis :said by Rob :I would love if the President of Verizon's FiOS Department would make a public statement comparing FiOSTV to BMW and Comcast to Hyundai. Yeah and I guess he would say " I know Comcast has 20 times more subscribers in this area, but our product is still better." And he wouldn't be lying!
--
YourIP.US - It's Your IP .. and more!
MySite.cx - Free Domain, Free DNS Hosting, plus other services.
rr.cx - Personal Site.. coming soon. | |
|
| DarkSly
join:2004-12-10
Danvers, MA
| Stripped out BMW 3 series vs a top of the line Hyundai with every option imaginable.
Comcast in my area provides more channels then are available with FiOS a few towns over.
The real difference is the HD On demand content (virtually non-existent with FiOS) | |
|
|
| moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Price Not a chance.
Verizon is hoping the price stays the same so they can recoup their investment faster. Plus, if it was lower than Comcast, then the people will cry when it does go up in a year to match Comcast ("Why did we swithc in the first place?!") | |
|
John T
@verizon.net
| "no broadband at all" Where broadband is defined as at least 1 Mbit/s and definitely does not include satellite, according to the graphic. Sure, satellite is kind of crappy-- I think tends to top out around 500 kbit/s and the upload is terrible. The graphic also excludes 768k DSL (assuming that there are areas where 768k DSL is available but not faster speeds).
You've got to pick a dividing line somewhere, even though in reality there's no obvious mark. There are things that are possible or reasonable with 15Mbit and 30 MBit connections that are unreasonable with 1MBit-- if downloading lots of video is something you consider necessary to the Internet, then Massachusetts has fewer real "broadband" options than the map shows. (And after getting used to FIOS, 1MBit is definitely too slow for some of my Internet habits.) | |
|
wdoa
join:2001-10-16
Spencer, MA
·Verizon Online DSL
| Verizon FIOS has very limited availability Fortunately for the Cable and Satellite operators Verizon will never have FIOS available in more than 30 or 40 percent of the state. Verizon has cut off all further deployment of FIOS in Mass unless & until the legislature gives Verizon a statewide video franchise. Oh yeah, and they are also going around and saying if the state doesn't let them keep a tax exemption on their telephone poles (that was given in the 1920s to encourage the introduction of telephone service to rural areas), they will cut back their spending in Massachusetts. | |
|
|
maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| SoCal In southern california, where 80% of the cable market is dominated by Time Warner Cable (and a smaller portion is Cox), TWC has opted to give higher speeds for the same price in areas where they have to compete with FIOS. This tells me they are definitly taking FIOS seriously.
Unfortunately, I live in a AT&T area, with no UVerse, and therefore I don't get the same speeds they get 10 miles down the road from me 
--
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both" -
Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father. | |
|
| |
majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
| depends on the company It all depends on the company. HEr eon Long Island Cablevision is doing a great job with competing with verizon.
They just increased speeds for a second time. they increased the speeds on the basic internet from 15/2 to 16.5/2 .
They might have even increased the boost speeds also but we are still not sure if thats an error or not. People have reported that the download caps have been taken away.
Cablevision is doing a great job at competing. | |
|
| 
batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: depends on the company said by majortom1029 :Cablevision is doing a great job at competing. FIOS is costing you people a bundle and you can't win. Verizon is the 800 pound gorilla and Jim can't manage a basketball team. | |
|
RCNHit
@rcn.com
| Good At least there is one positive in the story posted. That RCN is taking a big hit.
RCN is losing money and cant even retain their own customers in the markets with FIOS TV as customers move over.
14k lost subs for RCN may not sound like much but the company is losing money at a fast clip and sub hits like that will cut into RCN deep and hurt bad. RCN's strategies are all lame and wont cut the mustard for them to stay afloat anymore. | |
|
| BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs: | Re: Good Why would you want an over builder to fail they are helping keep prices lower.
Some people I fail to understand.
--
"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" | |
|
bigjimc
join:2003-04-21
Middleboro, MA
| FIOS TV Channel Lineup If you live in Southeastern MA the channel lineup bites. They offer channels from New Hampshire. Here is a bit of advice for anyone working for Verizon.
GET ME MY LOCAL CHANNELS. LOOK AT COMCAST'S LINEUP!!!
I want my local channels. I have called to see if there is more information beyond what the website has and there isn't. Yet.
Not to mention they have not worked out the local access to Public Meetings (selectmen, town etc...) yet either.
--
Just my 2 cents...Flame Lightly... | |
|
| smokythebear
join:2004-07-13
30881
clubs:
| Re: FIOS TV Channel Lineup In newton, ma they have soo many public channels, theres like 10 here, and fios tv has ALL of them. So hopefully you will get them soon enough and you can watch the local sports games and the mayor talking about how he will make the city better  | |
|
ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | . At this rate, VZ is going to go bankrupt. | |
|
| BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
1 edit | Re: . What?
Their penetration rates are good for a company venturing into an area they are not known.
--
"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" | |
|
HyPeRbAnD
join:2006-01-07
Stow, MA
| In the end it will be customer service The products will be the same, no matter which provider you pick. When you pick up your phone you will get dial tone, turn your tv on get video and your PC will be able to access the internet. The average customer has no clue on delivery methods and really doesn't care.
What will separate the companies will be customer service. I think price will not be a factor. Both will offer competitive rates. | |
|
JAdmiral
join:2003-08-07
Chino Hills, CA
| FiOS is the best... Ok, almost the best. The IMG isn't great (even the 2.0 version has some shortcomings). Other than that, it's fast, and the service is great. And I love Video On Demand!
I was a Dishnetwork subscriber for over six years, and while I did like Dish, I got really really tired of having to upgrade at my cost the boxes in order to get the latest channels they would offer. They'd call it a leased box, but you had to pay anywhere from $100-200, plus a monthly DVR fee, AND you still had to buy a new box if you wanted it. And God forbid if you wanted two HD DVRs at a decent price. They'd give you one, then tell you to go to eBay to buy another cheaper than what they had. Enough was enough.
I had had FiOS Internet for about 6 months, and it was great. After a little bit of comparison of channels, I made the switch. When I cancelled Dish, they asked what they could do to keep me. Too late.
I just signed up with FiOS at my workplace to provide both data and VoIP phone service. Hope it works well! | |
|
tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| FIOS in CA.. Yes, maybe when January 2008 rolls around they might actually be the first to pony up the big bucks for docsis 3.0 upgrades and compete... but then again. In NY, cablevision will certainly fork over the money when the time is right for them, however they're in no rush as they still beat Verizon on price. (if your wondering.. the POTS over fiber taxes/fees are the primary deal killer) Some customers have been savvy enough to play one off against the other to get the "best deal" possible to switch.. which works on a case-by-case basis. | |
|
Tim2
Premium
join:2006-06-19
| Do some math Actually FIOS getting 10% of the market is pretty impressive... until you figure out how much Verizon spent to get that 10%.
It is possible to make any money spending twice as much as cable just to wire a house while taking in less per subscriber? (Not to mention doing that while losing the core business of landlines.)
Therein lies the fundamental flaw of FIOS, at least economically. | |
|
Rob A
Same Old Jets
Premium
join:2005-01-17
Pompton Plains, NJ | It's only a matter of time... Before fios takes control over the cable isps, it is simply the future of broadband. | |
|
|
|
|
How FiOS Impacts The Cable Market
·
·