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| nice spin White collar criminal gets all bleary eyed. Whatever.
If he got caught with a $5 crack rock and a 9mm in Detroit, he'd be doing hard time lickety split. But because he merely pilfered billions of other people's dollars, he gets the Grandpa-What?-me-no-worry wristslap. | |
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| Re: nice spin said by satellite68  :White collar criminal gets all bleary eyed. Whatever. If he got caught with a $5 crack rock and a 9mm in Detroit, he'd be doing hard time lickety split. But because he merely pilfered billions of other people's dollars, he gets the Grandpa-What?-me-no-worry wristslap. He comes across as a everyones Gramps, but the reality is that Methuselah's grand child over there raped his employees and investors financially.
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| Hit Lady? Definitely seems fishy. The reporter who wrote this story is the same who broke the story about other phone companies sharing data with the federal government, something they denied.
»www.newsbusters.org/node/5435
I'm curious if she has any ties to Adelphia.
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| Re: Hit Lady? said by morbo :so anti-telco pro cable? what's your angle. Maybe, who knows. As I recall, the cable companies came out and sanctimoniously said that they would NEVER do such a horrible thing as that.
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| said by AmeritecTech :I'm curious if she has any ties to Adelphia. I'm sure Cauley is just another wannabe looking to whore herself out to wealthy, powerful benefactors for political favors rendered after the noise dies down. Silly girl, she should learn the same lessons Katie Harris did: You don't bob & suck before the john puts the money/favor on the table first.
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| She broke the story of illegal wire tapping, she wrote this story and you suspect "Liberal Media Bias", especially when the charge comes from a Brent Bozell site, no paragon of objectivity that? The big charge: she contributed to Dick Gephardt, noted former Viet Cong guerrilla.
Oh man. Death, where is thy sting? Take this chalice from my lips.
/me smacks head into keyboard.
What do you suggest then? No free press? No reporting on government or corporate wrongdoing? Should we all just gobble a fistful of Seroquel and drool our ignorant way through life while our "betters" do what they wilt? | |
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| Re: Hit Lady? Jesus, I didn't say anything at all about liberal media bias. I was only using that link to show she was the one that broke that story, not any other nonsense claimed by the link. I'm talking about a pro Adelphia anti telco bias. Clearly something is afoot, because the Rigas family has few redeeming qualities.
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Belvidere, NJ | Re: Hit Lady? You forgot "Drool". It communicates so much about the one doing the drooling, apparently exactly what our betters want to see. | |
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| Boo hoo, for Johnny He was caught red handed with his paws in the cookie jar and now we're supposed to feel bad for him because he looks like everyone's favorite grandpa. Whatta crock. White collar criminals should be put into the general population of maximum security prisons where they can room with 6'5", 300 lb. criminals named Bubba. Barring that, I would personally like to see Rigas tarred & feathered followed by being drawn and quartering. Let's bring back punishment from the goold old days for these kind of criminals. I'm more afraid of what criminals with a pen and a briefcase can do than I am of crack dealers with guns.
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| Re: Boo hoo, for Johnny said by major marco :He was caught red handed with his paws in the cookie jar and now we're supposed to feel bad for him because he looks like everyone's favorite grandpa. I know plenty of crooked old bastards that look like Mr. Rogers. They're evil as the day is long, and to quote my grandmother, meaner than cat shit.
Can't wait until this guy's in a cell and the lights go out.
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| Although what he did was atrocious he doesn't deserve to be housed with violent criminals because he isn't a violent criminal. One of the major problems I have with the prison system in this country is prisoners are housed mainly by the length of their term, not based on the severity or violence involved. Non-violent criminals should never be housed with those that commit violent acts as you are most likely to encourage the individual to be a violent criminal once they get out of prison. The maximum security prisons in this country are havens of gang violence with attempted murders and murders almost every single day simply based on gang affiliation.
Personally I think lifers and violent criminals should be housed in super-max jails and the non-violent offenders should be housed in more open style community prisons.
I'm not saying he doesn't deserve a lengthy term, but I am saying there is no reason to spend all the extra money to house him in a max security prison. Not only that but your idea that somehow he would be abused in prison is wrong on two major levels. Prison rape is wrong. Period. It should never be condoned and it should never be approved of, not in any circumstance. Second, grandpa is old and rich, people will be sucking up to him for financial favors and he could certainly purchase protection if he needed to. In fact he could probably rapidly build the connections he would need to get people killed on the outside if he desired.
He's likely to spend the rest of his life in prison and never see his grandchildren, wife or family again in any meaningful way. That is more punishment than you could inflict on him than senseless violence he might experience in a max security prison. He deserves to spend the rest of his life in a cheap (for the tax payers) facility, which means a minimum security prison. A non-violent prison is also good in the sense that he won't be afflicted with violence that could double or triple his medical costs which the tax payers will be forced to pay. Keep him healthy, deprive him of some important items in his life (freedom of movement and interaction) and you hurt him more than probably anything else. | |
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| Re: Boo hoo, for Johnny said by rahvin112 :He's likely to spend the rest of his life in prison and never see his grandchildren, wife or family again in any meaningful way. Who are you trying to kid? John Rigas is 82 yrs old and got a sentence of a mere 15 yrs for bilking billions of dollars out of investors. He's lucky if he'll see a year of that time on the inside because I am very sure his legal counsel will come up with creative ways so their client never has to see the inside of a prison.
Secondly, I don't feel bad for criminals who suddenly find God, their consciences and their families after they've been sentenced. If he doesn't get to see his family then too bad so sad. Cry me a river. He should have thought of that before he became a criminal. Let's give John Rigas the same advice he would no doubt have for the average person who was arrested/sentenced for wrongdoing: Don't commit the crime if you cannot do the time.
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| Maybe I missed it in the article, but did it say he was going to a maximum security prison? I didn't really read the article but scanned it and saw at the end the mention of one going to one prison, and one to another prison. My thought was that they would go to minimum security prisons.
I know a guy that got convicted for marijuana trafficing and remember him telling me the prison he went to didn't even have a fence around it (federal prison). He said he met politicians, judges, money launderers, etc. there, so I would think the Rigas clan would be living in a prison like that. | |
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| hmm It always saddens me to see such animosity towards other people. Right or wrong. Billions of dollars or 20 dollars. Murderer or crack fiend. It all kind of perpetuates itself and creates these kinds of criminals in the first place.
The punishment should definitely fit the crime. I do think that prison is pointless as long as it burns up taxpayers dollars. I am sick and tired of these quasi-punishments. If you kill another person, you should be sent to the gallows. If you injure someone, you should be maimed. If you steal from others, you should be thrown into poverty and publicly tortured.
The difference between that, and some of the crap that is opined here is that THAT is the way it should be. Not my opinion or hatred speaks any of that. If the punishments could start fitting the crimes we could stop sitting back and giving our 2 cents about what is proper. More importantly, we could stop sitting back and hating other human beings. | |
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| Re: Gary Cooper in High Noon? lol Speaking as somebody who knows Mr. Rigas as he is a family friend, I would have to honestly say that he got a bum rap on this. This guy was not some cut throat business man. He was the type of guy that gave sincerely and generously to everyone around him, never asking for anything in return or even making a big deal about it, and that's going back to even before he was wealthy. I would not say the same about his well educated kids.
This guy was doing what the auditors, CPAs, and lawyers (and his kids) were telling him was alright to do. His fault was that he put way top much trust in their opinions and competence and he let them roam on a leash that was much longer than it should have been. But that is just the type of guy that he is. He loves people and is the type of person that sees good in everyone he meets. | |
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| Re: Pays to be rich said by logcabinboy :What the hell has taken them so long? I suppose he was hoping he'd die first. wiki "Rigas was convicted of the charges in the summer of 2004 and on June 20, 2005 was sentenced to 15 years in federal prison" Maybe they could put em next to Ken Lay that way people would not have to walk to far to piss on them both!!!!!!
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