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TK Junk Mail
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clubs: | Re: Dumb Are these the same kids that have a cellphone up against their ear non-stop any time they are not in school? After they ban WiFi, are cellphones next? | |
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| Re: Tinfoil Hat Alert! Hmmmm, ya know there could be a sales opportunity here. Just develop some kind of sunscreen "specially formulated" for protection from Wi-Fi and cellular radiation. I'm sure some of those suckers would buy it. 
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pnh102
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| Re: Dumb said by TK Junk Mail  :After they ban WiFi, are cellphones next? "There ought to be a law" against government funding or performing ANY research that explores the "link" between cell phones and cancer. It is as much of junk science as the idea that the sun revolves around the earth.
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| Re: Dumb said by pnh102 :said by TK Junk Mail :After they ban WiFi, are cellphones next? "There ought to be a law" against government funding or performing ANY research that explores the "link" between cell phones and cancer. It is as much of junk science as the idea that the sun revolves around the earth. Are you saying that RF radiation has no proven biological affects? Or is it only cell phones that have no biological affects?
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pnh102
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| Re: Dumb said by RayW :Are you saying that RF radiation has no proven biological affects? Or is it only cell phones that have no biological affects? My post was perfectly clear.
There are no biological side-effects that come as a result of cell phone technology. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.
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caddyroger
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Graham, WA
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| Re: Dumb said by pnh102 :said by RayW :Are you saying that RF radiation has no proven biological affects? Or is it only cell phones that have no biological affects? My post was perfectly clear. There are no biological side-effects that come as a result of cell phone technology. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Prove it that it here are no biological side-effects? | |
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| said by pnh102 :said by RayW :Are you saying that RF radiation has no proven biological affects? Or is it only cell phones that have no biological affects? My post was perfectly clear. There are no biological side-effects that come as a result of cell phone technology. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. So RF has biological affects but cell phones do not. I hate to break this to you, but cell phones work by radiated RF.
I have an office mate who is now a believer, she is now deaf in one ear (the cell phone side) as a result of a malignant tumour that grew on her auditory nerve. Her surgeon said that while there is no PROOF that cell phones cause this issue, he has seen a rise in various tumours in cell phone users (sorry I am not using the medical terms, but my Latin is atrocious).
As has been hashed over and over again in various DSLR forums, there are no OFFICIAL proofs that cell phones have any affect on humans. There are many SECONDARY stories and suppositions that cell phone radiation over a LONG period of time can cause an issue, but like the early days of radio, no one knows for sure, yet.
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pnh102
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| Re: Dumb said by RayW :As has been hashed over and over again in various DSLR forums, there are no OFFICIAL proofs that cell phones have any affect on humans. There are many SECONDARY stories and suppositions that cell phone radiation over a LONG period of time can cause an issue, but like the early days of radio, no one knows for sure, yet. There are billions of people using cell phones. If there were any ill effects as a result of them, we would be seeing thousands, if not millions, of cases of such ill effects.
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| Re: Dumb said by pnh102 :said by RayW :As has been hashed over and over again in various DSLR forums, there are no OFFICIAL proofs that cell phones have any affect on humans. There are many SECONDARY stories and suppositions that cell phone radiation over a LONG period of time can cause an issue, but like the early days of radio, no one knows for sure, yet. There are billions of people using cell phones. If there were any ill effects as a result of them, we would be seeing thousands, if not millions, of cases of such ill effects. How many years were how many people smoking tobacco products before the proof that tobacco caused health problems was officially recognized? How many (few) years have cells been in use in relationship to that time? Why do those of us working in an RF environment have exposure limits?
No, I do NOT know for a fact that putting a watt or two of near field microwave energy up against neurological tissue for a relatively long term will or will not cause problems. Just my training over the last 35+ years makes me leery of it. And as I said before, there are secondary stories like that of my co-worker's neurosurgeon who said he has seen a rise in certain tumours that MIGHT be related to cell phone use.
But this is getting off the topic of Wi-Fi, which is a totally different exposure level.
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| Severity of radiation related heath issues is dependent on exposure. Some people are exposed to more cell phone radiation than others.
Think of it as another electromagnetic related condition such as sunburn. Absorb too much UV rays at one time and you will get hurt. Go out for a few minuets and you will be fine.
Just because everybody goes out in the sun and does not get sunburned, does not mean that the sun does not cause sunburns.
I guess the frequency of cell phones compared to UV make damage from cell phones allot less likely. but expose yourself to enough radiation and you will start seeing problems. Who knows, maybe there are people out there who really do expose themselves to massive amount of cellphone radiation.
I think people should do a survey of cell phone use for people who have suffered from specific issues with cancer in the ear/brain. Maybe some sorta correlation could be found, and maybe we can begin to determine how much is too much cell phone use. | |
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John Galt
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| said by RayW :Are you saying that RF radiation has no proven biological affects? Or is it only cell phones that have no biological affects? I find it interesting that all these studies have the caveat that even though cause-and-effect could not be established (despite rigorous testing) that should not be interpreted as concluding that no effects exist.
This is usually followed by a call for further testing and concomitant funding...ad infinitum.
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| Re: Dumb said by John Galt :said by RayW :Are you saying that RF radiation has no proven biological affects? Or is it only cell phones that have no biological affects? I find it interesting that all these studies have the caveat that even though cause-and-effect could not be established (despite rigorous testing) that should not be interpreted as concluding that no effects exist. This is usually followed by a call for further testing and concomitant funding...ad infinitum. According to my information, it took many years for HF RF exposure to be tagged as a problem. Time will tell for cells. Plus the money people make on cells.
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| Interesting, because when they introduced the once a fortnight collection awhile ago (I head it on BBC Radio 1 via Sirius), they had stated that, if garbage was properly secured, there were no massive health issues or issues with rats.
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pnh102
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| Re: Dumb said by bmn :they had stated that, if garbage was properly secured, there were no massive health issues or issues with rats. Of course, the trash probably isn't secure, because these towns are raking in a ton of cash in fines as a result of trash not being properly secured (or to a lesser extent, being put out on the wrong day).
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John Galt
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| Re: Dumb said by pnh102 :Of course, the trash probably isn't secure, because these towns are raking in a ton of cash in fines as a result of trash not being properly secured (or to a lesser extent, being put out on the wrong day). Maybe they could have some locks that you put on the trash to keep it secure. There could be Model WEP, good for keeping the casual infiltrator out but able to be broken in under one minute, or the more secure Model WPA which keeps all but the most determined and well-financed penetrators at bay.
For general household trash the Model WEP is probably sufficient, but the Model WPA is suggested for those individuals and businesses that have more upscale trash worthy of the extra protection a better quality lock affords.
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pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: Dumb Better watch out... the global warming police might force us all to use one square of TP next... how they plan to enforce it, I do not know!
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| Re: Dumb said by pnh102 :Better watch out... the global warming police might force us all to use one square of TP next... how they plan to enforce it, I do not know! If they try to enforce it, they can lick my arse...
Hey, wait a minute, maybe THAT'S how they plan to enforce it... | |
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| I don't see what the big deal is, radiation isn't bad for you. There are no studies linking radiation and cancer. Low/high power levels of radiation it's all the same. Just wondering wifi operates 2.4 GHz right? Doesn't the kitchen microwave operate at the same frequency? The only difference is power level dissipation. Also I am sure that the 2nd and 3rd harmonics don't cause any problems off of the original frequency. I can't see wifi being bad for you, it's only up to 30mW. The antenna is like only 12-24 inches away from your body when you use your laptop every days for years right.
I just wish these crazy people would stop with all this radiation crap. Maybe they should wrap themselves in tin foil.
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Lil Jon
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| said by pnh102 :Instead of wasting UK citizens' tax money on BS, perhaps instead that government should look into the massive health problems with attracting vermin and disease that will result by collecting trash only once every 2 weeks. BINGO!!! | |
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AnonProxy
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ß | They should investigate... head up the arse syndrome! | |
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clubs: | It's real! This morning I boiled an egg for breakfast by placing it along the line between my router and my laptop and then downloaded a bunch of files off my desktop. Insane I tell ya! | |
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| One of 2 things will happen when this study comes out.... 1) The study will find no link between Wi-Fi and health risks which will prompt those saying there is a problem to cry conspiracy.
2) They will find a link and the cell phone companies will cry "junk science" while the Luddites will call for the scrapping of all technology.
Yeah, this will be fun to watch. | |
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Toronto | Re: One of 2 things will happen when this study comes out.... You already know the outcome of the study before it has taken place awesome. | |
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UK Watchdog Wants Wi-Fi Health Investigation
Holy shit. And I thought Pennsylvania had high traffic fines. a $200 fine for putting your trash out an hour early?
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