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Los Angeles, CA | ISP for human rights violations? Didn't know ISP could violate someone human rights, the lawsuit will go further then getting thrown out of the court and judge laughing in lawyers face
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL
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| Re: If it hurts Yahoo! in any way.... Well, when we all move to China and get the right to vote, then we have a say in it, untill then, we ALL need to quit whining like little girls who just skinned thier knees and got blood on thier new pink dresses about how China's laws and the way they treat thier law breakers.
Which is also why I love being from a free country.
And you should too, seeing that if you would have said our leaders are going to hell in China, you'd be enjoying a nice long butt raping prison sentence. | |
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
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| Re: ISP for human rights violations? said by worldvision :
Didn't know ISP could violate someone human rights, the lawsuit will go further then getting thrown out of the court and judge laughing in lawyers face They can if they cooperate with countries that are violating basic rights. Rights that we are able to enjoy in this country. In this case Yahoo cooperated with the Chinese government to bring this person to jail for speaking out against the Chinese government. In turn for that cooperation Yahoo is still able to business in China. | |
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TK Junk Mail
Go ahead, make my day
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Margate City, NJ
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| Re: ISP for human rights violations? said by viperpa33s  :They can if they cooperate with countries that are violating basic rights. Rights that we are able to enjoy in this country. In this case Yahoo cooperated with the Chinese government to bring this person to jail for speaking out against the Chinese government. In turn for that cooperation Yahoo is still able to business in China. Welcome to the Global Economy where International businesses(not US businesses) operate around the world and must follow the rules of the countries they are in.
If Yahoo or Google insisted on overriding the laws of the countries they operate in, there are many here who are currently deriding their actions who would then be calling them imperialists. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
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Eugene, OR | Re: ISP for human rights violations? Seems to me the people of China are damned if they do.Money or human life, mmmmm. I dont see it as a hard decision. I guess yahoo didnt either. | |
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| said by viperpa33s :said by worldvision :
Didn't know ISP could violate someone human rights, the lawsuit will go further then getting thrown out of the court and judge laughing in lawyers face They can if they cooperate with countries that are violating basic rights. Rights that we are able to enjoy in this country. In this case Yahoo cooperated with the Chinese government to bring this person to jail for speaking out against the Chinese government. In turn for that cooperation Yahoo is still able to business in China. The current Chinese government is similar to the one they overthrew years ago. Guess history must repeat itself.
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A P CC
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| said by RangerTX :Didn't know ISP could violate someone human rights, the lawsuit will go further then getting thrown out of the court and judge laughing in lawyers face wrong,when you publish private information,then it becomes BREAKING the law,invasion of privacy, and it seems,like most companies,yahoo,google,microsoft,ect have NO ETHICS,or morals about giving your private information out,they seems to just keep trying to push to see what they can get away with befor being sued. | |
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Mchart
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Gurnee, IL | Yahoo, like any other corporation cares about one thing Money. | |
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Nanoprobe
Wandering in subspace
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Orlando, FL
clubs: | Re: Yahoo, like any other corporation cares about one thing BINGO!!! We have a winner. | |
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actor90
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join:2003-07-21
L.E.H.T., NJ
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| The friendly facade of Yahoo is slowly slipping away The more we learn about Yahoo's dealings with the Chinese Communist government, the more disgusting the company looks. The fact that yahoo is helping to silence the voices of pro-democracy dissidents in the name of profit, is ripping away the supposedly friendly hippie like image that these companies like to portray themselves as.
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xerxes3642
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devrandom
I got a pot, full of random stuff here
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join:2003-06-28 | The opposite is why these businesses are in China Most of these businesses, in retrospect, probably came into China with the prospects of bringing "freedom" to it.
Unfortunately in this case, it simply looks like they dug the hole a little deeper. | |
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Louisville, KY
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| Re: It's not some random occurence... quote:
If Haliburton were twice the monster they are commonly accused of, it wouldn't compare with these atrocities
Yeah, no bid contracts for countless billions with no accountability=selling out a dissident or two. Depends upon who you ask. | |
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| Re: It's not some random occurence... said by Noah Vail :Yea. Just a dissident or two. That should help you obscure the billions who are living in an increasingly Stalinist atmosphere with few freedoms and fewer liberties. That should help you ignore Google helping establish the most persuasive censorship net in the world. Those billions are just people after all, not dollars. There ARE priorities. NV I suggest you go read a month's worth of China's history. As a couple thousand year old culture, we as westerners just don't understand them as well as we should. However, we should be fixing our own house first before we're poking at someone elses. Not that we should ignore human rights abuses-not at all, frankly-but when our own country turns a blind eye to the out of control roller coaster that is our finances (Haliburton comes to mind), we risk becoming a Stalinist society ourselves. | |
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| Re: It's not some random occurence... said by satellite68 :I suggest you go read a month's worth of China's history. As a couple thousand year old culture, we as westerners just don't understand them as well as we should. However, we should be fixing our own house first before we're poking at someone elses. Not that we should ignore human rights abuses-not at all, frankly-but when our own country turns a blind eye to the out of control roller coaster that is our finances (Haliburton comes to mind), we risk becoming a Stalinist society ourselves. The history of China is full of Mandarins, warlords, bloody fighting, conquest. It is what Europe might have been if there had been a European king who could have imposed unity on Europe; at the expense of the rights of individuals to decide there own fates.
And Haliburton isn't likely to bring us to a Stalinist state of existence. You picked the wrong WWII-era dictator.
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Dominokat
Who Me?
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Boothbay, ME
clubs: | Sue Who I really need to find someone to sue. It seems so un-American not to. | |
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A P CC
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| Re: Sue Who said by Dominokat :I really need to find someone to sue. It seems so un-American not to. so you could sue SUE,but then again SUE may countersue you,so sue somebody else,that won't countersue you. | |
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mainlands
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AnonProxy
Proxy of Anon
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winky
Turn Left At The Moon
join:2001-02-11
Saint Louis, MO
| $$$ YAHOO only desires to make money for it's share holders and wishes to express it's displeasure with China's political climate by inviting the US State Department to do all it can to relieve the pressure China puts on it's journalists and dissidents. Unfortunately Yahoo can do very little in the area of Human Rights promotion since it conflicts with it's profit motive. My suggestion is that we all help Yahoo in it's quest for Human Rights by 1) Divesting ourselves of any and all holdings with YOO and MYH on AMEX and YHOO on NasdaqGS. 2)Not using yahoo.anything other than to find advertisers and inform them that as a consumer you will not look fondly upon their products due to their affiliation with YAHOO. This is going to be my new hobby for the next few weeks. If Don Imus can get fired for being a jerk, YAHOO can take some heat for helping a communist country put it's critics in prison. | |
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Chaoswar
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Melrose Park, IL
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| Just confused... Ok, what is being accomplished by suing Yahoo!? I guess this is to stop Yahoo! from working within China. I say that because if they don't cooperate with the government then I am fairly certain they won't be allowed to operate there.
So, slowly going after each company working within China, they all pull out and the government of China feels the financial crunch and decides to become a free loving democratic country!!! Don't think so.
Other than making a group of lawyers rich how does this solve the underlying problem in China??? We can all vilify Yahoo! (hell if there is legal grounds we can even sue them!)...
I don't know the answer to this. Do we try to bring democracy to the world again? How well did that work? | |
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Brat75
Woman On A Mission
join:2003-02-05
Moon!
| aka fence sitters Based in US, capitalism, make money. Freedom of speech ra ra.
Working / serving in other countries, make nice with those countries. Follow THEIR orders to censor, filter and hinder availability to find information.
Figure the hell out what your business stands for.
Making money? fine. Do that then.
Doing something you believe in? Fine. Do that then, even if it DOES cost money somewhere.
I'm the kind of person who sees excessive use of petroleum for fuel: and would put solar panels on my house (if I had one) so I wouldn't use so much fuel! Whether the ROI would be 1 year or 10 years, I'd rather do that.
I respect the Japanese businessmen; their business plans are 25, 50 year long term goals. Our American business people seem to have a shorter, greedier goal term. AKA 1 to 5 years.
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bigjimc
join:2003-04-21
Middleboro, MA
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| As the signature says.. Just my 2 cents I am not for other countries inflicting atrocities against its citizens but I am also not going to chastise a company for following the laws of that country.
Yahoo and Google and GM and Ford and GE and... and... and the list goes on work outside the US and follow the local laws of the countries it works in.
Should you be outraged by the fact that the largest MP3 player manufacturer pays its workers in China less that US minimum wages to assemble its hardware or one of the largest (if not the) car manufacturers discharges waste (illegal in the US) into the Rio Grand from their plants in Mexico.
They are following the law...
Why should we complain. We get cheap cars, clothes and electronics....
This was meant to be ambiguous to make you think...
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