 amungus
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Pensacola, FL | Re: actually... That's funny. Can you point the cellphone at one and watch it go crazy?  | |
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| brianiscool
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Miami, FL | Maybe we should make a Bee-Fi network so they can communicate with one another. Hopefully evolution will come in and replace these retarded bee's. | |
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| Re: actually... said by brianiscool  :Maybe we should make a Bee-Fi network so they can communicate with one another. Hopefully evolution will come in and replace these retarded bee's. And you wouldn't happen to be a direct descendant of these bees now would you? | |
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Jafo232
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Boonville, NY | Re: actually... Hmm, why don't they just say capitalism is killing the bee's? | |
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| It's just a study funded by Ed and Ivan.
Ok, I know it sounds crazy but it's all part of the master plan. Think about it. They're in the process of killing off VoIP, CLECs have been banned from the RTs, and now they're going to temporarily sacrifice their own wireless service by making cellular phones illegal. We'll all be held hostage to their landline networks and be forced to pay telco prices.
A few years from now when the other wireless guys are bankrupt, Ed and Ivan will debunk the study and have the telco lobbyists pay the politicians some money so they can turn the telco's wireless networks back on.
And Ma Bell lives happily ever after! | |
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batterup
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clubs: | Re: actually... said by JerryFletcher :
And Ma Bell lives happily ever after!
She will now that government regulation is gone. That damn regulation held back TPC for 100 years. | |
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| said by amungus :I heard it was chemtrails... Morgellons Disease...
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Jamaica, NY | Re: actually... No, its satellites. They finally got bee mind control satellites to work, humans are next. | |
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| good one, but did you know that the CDC removed this page?
»www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/parasites···sitosis/
...meaning, that the it was classified as such a thing, now it is not. There must be some truth to at least some of the stories...
I can't believe how narrow minded so many posters here are.
So what if YOU don't know the answer, it does not make the issue less significant. Sad really. | |
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cdru
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| Re: actually... Thankfully the WayBack Machine hasn't removed it's version of that page. It just has a link pointing here anyways.
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Cudni
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| Re: bad, very bad said by Cudni :no bees no pollination Well... Greatly reduced pollination.
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| claudeo
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Redmond, WA | No bees no food You might not like them but you have to respect them. No bees no food. Bees are indispensable for pollination for many fruit crops and other food crops. | |
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Huh? What?
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| Re: No bees no food It only baffles scientists who maybe don't know anything about bees.
If God's so great, he should give his bees some GPS.
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antarctica | Re: No bees no food Maybe god should have given them tinfoil hats to protect them from the radiation from the cellphones he gave us. | |
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Huh? What?
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| Well it ain't workin, so obviously he needs to give 'em a firmware upgrade.
I'm pretty sure the NAtional Geographic folks also know why bees pollinate. It ain't no mystery.
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| birds and the bees (also GM crops) Yeah it must be the mobile phones, because its not like they've been around for 10 years. And its not like microwave transmission towers have been around for years either. GM crops that make their own pesticides have only been around for a year or so now, maybe they'll help bring back the bee population if given time to do their job.
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| RayW
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| Re: birds and the bees (also GM crops) said by james1 :Yeah it must be the mobile phones, because its not like they've been around for 10 years. And its not like microwave transmission towers have been around for years either. GM crops that make their own pesticides have only been around for a year or so now, maybe they'll help bring back the bee population if given time to do their job. /sarcasm Most microwave towers are beamed and radiate mostly in one direction, and are not all over the landscape. Cell towers are all over the landscape, are not beamed so they radiate all over said landscape.
Also, most most cell phones are in the L (maybe S) band or below as I recall, while the microwave towers are in the C and up bands.
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Keyport, NJ | There was an article recently describing the bee loss around the country. It seems that most were in the vicinity of cornfields that were growing the genetically altered corn that produces its own pesticide.
Seems to be a pretty direct link. | |
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| How does cellphone radiation spread from place to place ? The theory is that radiation from mobile phones interferes with bees' navigation systems, preventing the famously homeloving species from finding their way back to their hives. Improbable as it may seem, there is now evidence to back this up.
Late last week, some bee-keepers claimed that the phenomenon - which started in the US, then spread to continental Europe - was beginning to hit Britain as well. Someone will have to explain to me how the problem is spreading. Cell phones were in all 3 places simultaneously. Cellphone radiation isn't something that can spread like a virus.
Sounds more like a Luddite wacko researcher is spewing nonsense again.
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| Re: How does cellphone radiation spread from place to place ? More cell phones...cell phone use is spreading and cell phones are being used more to make "regular" calls.
Old days, few had cell phones, and those that had them barely used them. Now a days most people have 2 or 3 in a family and use them like they would regular land lines. | |
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Count Zero
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Warner Robins, GA | Re: How does cellphone radiation spread from place to place ? The towers are still transmitting at full power though and they put out a lot more than cell phones do I'm betting.
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ß | Re: How does cellphone radiation spread from place to place ? There are alos more towers, more service and now more ditial signal v. analog.... | |
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Count Zero
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| Re: How does cellphone radiation spread from place to place ? Isn't digital signal lower power than analog? I thought that was part of how we get such better life out of the batteries in our bee-killing cell phones when they're in Digital versus Analog modes. Seems like the rise in tower number should be partially offset by the lower required transmission power. Listen if bees DID die off I am 100% sure we could figure out a way to manually pollinate our crops and lots of other green stuff is pollinated by other animals and by the wind so it isn't as if all vegetation on earth would die off. Sure is something we need to be investigating though.
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| amungus
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| "(Cellphone) radiation isn't something that can spread like a virus."
Actually radiation can spread, but you're right in that (cell phone) radiation doesn't really spread across oceans...
What it can do, however, is interfere with the ionosphere, along with the massive amounts of other forms of electronic communication... notably, pulsed digitized signals which have become MUCH more prevalent than in years past.
Regardless of the cause, and your obviously biased stance against this theory which has been presented, you seem to have missed the most important part of the article:::
"Most of the world's crops depend on pollination by bees."
Would you also totally discount the following statement from the article as "wacko nonsense"???
"German research has long shown that bees' behaviour changes near power lines."
Perhaps other concerned Americans will find this next link interesting:
»www.niburu.nl/index.php?showarti···ID=15948
There is a nifty picture showing affected states, and some further statistics on this issue.
"February 2007 map showing states so far affected by the honey bee collapse
disorder in which beekeepers have reported 60% to 100% honey bee disappearances without
explanation to date. Map courtesy MAAREC."
...It might open your eyes as to how far and wide this issue is really spread. Think whatever you will about "theories" as to the cause, but it seems rather indisputable that SOMETHING is actually happening here and now... | |
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| possible reason yeah, mobile phones have been around for a while now. I don't think that's the problem.
It could be the sun. The sun could be giving off more UV rays, which is degrading the pollen. Also, UV helps bees see. So they could be dying from malnutrition. The sun could also be causing global warming, which might actually be more of a solar system thing, not really global. Isn't the ice on Mars melting too.
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Gwailo
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| Whatever it is .... We should all hope the cause is found soon. Per the article:
"The implications of the spread are alarming. Most of the world's crops depend on pollination by bees. Albert Einstein once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left". | |
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BeAlarmed
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| .... If anyone would bother to research this topic, and its just now getting mainstream coverage I might add, the cellphone theory is pretty much FUD. What they don't tell you is that they have found dead bees that contain pathogens of every known pathogen that kills bees, in one bee. This is cause for alarm, mostly because it will eventually affect the food supply. It is a harbinger of something much larger, and the experts honestly do not know what is causing it. | |
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mrchris
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North Babylon, NY | Killer bees Is it possible to use this against the africanized killer bees? | |
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justkidding
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DaneJasper
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Santa Rosa, CA
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| High fructose corn syrup I think it's the HFCS. It's messing up the rest of us, right? Look at kids and cola these days. 
Various CCD theories here:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_Col···Disorder
I have heard that some herbicide was manifesting in pollen and seemed to cause some memory loss in bees. I'm a beekeeper, so it's certainly something I'm curious about. When bees leave their hive for the first time, they circle above in widening circles until they've got the area and it's landmarks mapped out. From there, they can travel about one and a half to two miles and still find their way home. Anything which affects their memory could cause the type of issues seen in CCD.
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Hazen
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Lawton, OK | BeeFriendly I'm going to start marketing the BEEfriendly Cell phone. Approved by 3 out of 4 bees. Get yours now!! BTW its potentially harmfull to Wasps. | |
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| Re: BeeFriendly said by Hazen :I'm going to start marketing the BEEfriendly Cell phone. Approved by 3 out of 4 bees. Get yours now!! BTW its potentially harmfull to Wasps. You may win big time here because of that. We human should always be careful when playing with God. God only gave you the ears to hear not your cell phone. | |
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Lake Zurich, IL | Re: BeeFriendly Don't forget that God also gave us Joe Motorola, or whoever invented the cell phone; ergo cell phones are a gift from God, and he meant for us to use them. | |
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antarctica | Re: BeeFriendly He also gave us the clapp. We must do his will and spread the clapp good word! | |
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dtow
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Atkins, IA
| Bee's Wax It's in the wax, they forgot to spread it on their itty bitty wings! Now there is to much friction for their little bee's wings to go efficiently through the heavy air.
Seriously, it is a real problem and one we can't take lightly. Although we can still keep our sense of humor and still take it seriously. Pray their little wings can pass the gas... | |
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Asmodeus1
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Spring Valley, CA | i know the answer... it was the after effects of WTC 7 collapsing that did it... of course, because it was the first time that fire has ever melted steel... either that or rosie ate them all... | |
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| Re: i know the answer... said by Asmodeus1 :it was the after effects of WTC 7 collapsing that did it... of course, because it was the first time that fire has ever melted steel... either that or rosie ate them all... Either you are some child posting garbage about a subject you know nothing of, or you are making a dumb joke to poke fun at half the postings here. Steel burns very well in many circumstances, the WTC is just one of the latest most publicized instances. Anyone with a Navy shipboard background can affirm how well steel plate burns in the open air. Just takes a hot enough fire to get it started.
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| Re: i know the answer... I seriously doubt and actually never seen steel melt unless put into seriously high temperature. I wont say I believe his theory but maybe on certain floors the heat was hot enough to melt the beams.
While the rest of the floors below where hot enough that the beams turned as strong as string causing the rapid collapse because steel can bend quite easily with some moderate high heat.
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| said by RayW :said by Asmodeus1 :it was the after effects of WTC 7 collapsing that did it... of course, because it was the first time that fire has ever melted steel... either that or rosie ate them all... Either you are some child posting garbage about a subject you know nothing of, or you are making a dumb joke to poke fun at half the postings here. Steel burns very well in many circumstances, the WTC is just one of the latest most publicized instances. Anyone with a Navy shipboard background can affirm how well steel plate burns in the open air. Just takes a hot enough fire to get it started. it was a joke to goof on the childish nonsense presented about cell phones causing bees to disappear and wrapping it up in leftist windbaggery that gets exhaled by someone like rosie o'fathead... take a breath... and i know the subject quite well, thank you very much... | |
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| Cellphones, huh? I think global warming, the stock market, and a butterfly flying in the Amazon rain forest are killing off the bees. | |
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| Re: virus Wish it was the same for wasps. They don't seem to have any problems finding their way back to my phone pedestals and aerial terminals I'm in all the time! 
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houselog442
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| more junk science by communists This sounds more like an attempt by communists to destroy capitalist countires by making up phony claims that cell phones are killing bees. Communists hate that we have cell phones and that it helps get our jobs done faster and makes our lives more convenient. Communist pinkos will do anything they can to ban cell phones and this is how they are going to do it. The only good communist is a dead one! | |
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| Re: more junk science by communists said by houselog442 :This sounds more like an attempt by communists to destroy capitalist countires by making up phony claims that cell phones are killing bees. Communists hate that we have cell phones and that it helps get our jobs done faster and makes our lives more convenient. Communist pinkos will do anything they can to ban cell phones and this is how they are going to do it. The only good communist is a dead one! What a stupid baseless post. | |
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Michieru
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Miami, FL | Re: more junk science by communists Somehow I doubt that. | |
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| ! I would like some proof of this, if this is indeed true we are facing a serious problem. I am pretty sure the proposed method will be to create large bee farms which are shielded from radiation and pollinate the stock inside.
But I do not want to jump to conclusions, just someone telling me that a cellphone screws up the bees natural navigation is something I take with a grain of salt unless proven to me with a small antenna off showing how the bees operate normally and then turning it on and if the bees have the same affect. Its nothing more than a theory and possibly something you can test at home but I do not know what exactly can be used to cause the same amount of radiation a tower will in order to produce accurate results.
Could the suns magnetic pull and increase in activity could be also cause of more radiation coming down to earth? If I am not mistaken a internal navigation system such as with birds have magnets built inside their bodies. If anything where to disrupt that magnetic field they will lose their way.
So does this also affects birds and other animals with internal navigation?
TEST THE FREAKING THEORY MAN!
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Schererville, IN | Blame Canada! Clearly Canada is wiping out bee colonies. | |
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Burnaby, BC | Re: Blame Canada! Not here in BC - Bee Seeing is Believing.
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April 16th, @10:50PM
| Gimmie a break!!! Yeah, Cell Phones are killing off bees. Since, no one knows what's killing off the bees, I'll put in my 10 cents worth: satellite radio! Or, satellite TV!
Yep, the MOST dangerous radiation comes from space!
Think about it-those 14 watt transponders from XM/Sirius MUST be doing the job, eh?
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I'll continue to enjoy sat/rad.
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