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| Re: Getting around the 30% restriction said by Chris 313  :By 2010, there will be 2 cable companies: Time Warner Cable and Comcast. There will also be two phone companies, Verizon and AT&T. Hold on - I thought deregulation meant more competition? Isn't that, like, what the (gush) free market is about? and what the FCC (cough) people told us?
It's so ... confusing.
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| bigjimc
join:2003-04-21
Middleboro, MA
| Well. Then the Oligopoly will end up getting regulated by the federal government again.
"Take five for a dollar and five" - That was the jingle for a a five minute call in Massachusetts circa 1980
That's 21 cents a minute (46 cents in 2007 dollars) for a local toll call.
This was a time with regulation and about when they broke up AT&T. | |
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gaforces
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join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
2 edits | said by Chris 313 :Competition will be war then. They are already not lowering prices as it is, how do you figure when theres only 2 that that would change? It will be much worse, because they will make agreements so both of them can fleece the public like they already are.
If it is in thier best interests, they will and have been colluding. And they are not afraid to break laws when they will just get a slap on the wrist, pay thier fine, and laugh all the way to the bank (in the caymans) and thier mansions. | |
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join:2006-01-07
Stow, MA
| Re: Getting around the 30% restriction said by gaforces :said by Chris 313 :Competition will be war then. They are already not lowering prices as it is, how do you figure when theres only 2 that that would change? I don't think you will see big price drop. They will claim who has the best network, customer service and hope to win your money. | |
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| Re: Getting around the 30% restriction As soon as whitacer retires and gets his chunk of retirement, the next CEO will step in and do the right thing.. I'm sure.
Their project "dim the light" isn't going to carry them into anything.. cable will eventually bury them just as quick as they can crank up the juice to the old copper.
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| said by Chris 313 :I knew Comcast would find away around this! I'll say it before and I'll say it again. By 2010, there will be 2 cable companies: Time Warner Cable and Comcast. There will also be two phone companies, Verizon and AT&T. Competition will be war then. I guess Cox Cable slipped you mind? Nobody is stupid enough to buy Qwest or Embarq. Alltel land-line still exists under some name. I guess those slipped you mind as well. | |
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| Re: Getting around the 30% restriction said by supergirl :said by Chris 313 :I knew Comcast would find away around this! I'll say it before and I'll say it again. By 2010, there will be 2 cable companies: Time Warner Cable and Comcast. There will also be two phone companies, Verizon and AT&T. Competition will be war then. I guess Cox Cable slipped you mind? Nobody is stupid enough to buy Qwest or Embarq. Alltel land-line still exists under some name. I guess those slipped you mind as well. No, I didn't. I think that within a few years, Cox will either have found a to protect themselves or have been gobbled up by Comcast or Time Warner. Same with Charter especially.
As for phone companies like Qwest, they'll be in bankruptcy soon enough.
As for What I said, that's just a prediction, but it looks like it'll happen. | |
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join:2000-04-23
Tinley Park, IL
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| Re: Getting around the 30% restriction said by Chris 313 :As for phone companies like Qwest, they'll be in bankruptcy soon enough. I guess you didn't hear, Qwest just won a big government contract along with two other companies. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by Chris 313 :I knew Comcast would find away around this! I'll say it before and I'll say it again. By 2010, there will be 2 cable companies: Time Warner Cable and Comcast. There will also be two phone companies, Verizon and AT&T. Competition will be war then. Exactly which of these 2 is going to be stupid enough to buy Charter and take on it's $19 BILLION of debt? | |
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| Re: Getting around the 30% restriction said by BF69 :said by Chris 313 :I knew Comcast would find away around this! I'll say it before and I'll say it again. By 2010, there will be 2 cable companies: Time Warner Cable and Comcast. There will also be two phone companies, Verizon and AT&T. Competition will be war then. Exactly which of these 2 is going to be stupid enough to buy Charter and take on it's $19 BILLION of debt? No idea, but they could be another Adelphia just waiting to make a deal. | |
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| wstwrdho
join:2007-03-15
Riverton, UT
| Hold on, let me add some info.
This is an old story going back to the initial start of cable tv. Insight was in a silent (not secret) partnership with TCI as were many other operators like Sonic etc... This gave the startup companies access to capital (and other resources) to get franchises and build their plant. This owner ship by Comcast came from the buyout of TCI by AT&T Broadband and the take over of AT&T Broadband by Comcast. Insight has had some rocky roads but it sounds like they might divest their affiliation with Comcast and move forward. Good for them. Congrats to Mr. Wilner and co.
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| said by Chris 313 :I knew Comcast would find away around this! I'll say it before and I'll say it again. By 2010, there will be 2 cable companies: Time Warner Cable and Comcast. There will also be two phone companies, Verizon and AT&T. Competition will be war then. how is this getting around the 30% restriction? they only have like 23-25% and Insight is a small company....it will go up like 1%....
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rkrocha
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Garland, TX | The subs that Comcast would acquire from Insight are already counted in their Current%...so NO, they are not finding away around the 30% rule. | |
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| Re: Getting around the 30% restriction said by rkrocha :The subs that Comcast would acquire from Insight are already counted in their Current%...so NO, they are not finding away around the 30% rule. I forgot about that part....any cable company Comcast owns over 5% of counts torwards their cap....
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| Re: Getting around the 30% restriction said by Loker :said by rkrocha :The subs that Comcast would acquire from Insight are already counted in their Current%...so NO, they are not finding away around the 30% rule. I forgot about that part....any cable company Comcast owns over 5% of counts torwards their cap.... I thought Comcast approached the FCC about the caps? Claiming with competition from Telco's, Cable and Satellite that there was no need for caps. Am I wrong? | |
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| Re: Getting around the 30% restriction said by HyPeRbAnD :said by Loker :said by rkrocha :The subs that Comcast would acquire from Insight are already counted in their Current%...so NO, they are not finding away around the 30% rule. I forgot about that part....any cable company Comcast owns over 5% of counts torwards their cap.... I thought Comcast approached the FCC about the caps? Claiming with competition from Telco's, Cable and Satellite that there was no need for caps. Am I wrong? yeah but it is pretty much a telco FCC so they were told no the cap would stay....
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| openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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| So what. The 30% cap needs to go away because it's irrelevant in our current market. The telcos don't compete with each other now nor due the cablecos. The "competition" playground doesn't change until you add a third (technically fourth when counting satTV) player which most likely isn't going to happen anytime soon due to the relatively large startup costs. | |
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join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| said by Chris 313 :... By 2010, there will be 2 cable companies: Time Warner Cable and Comcast. There will also be two phone companies, Verizon and AT&T. Competition will be war then. Maybe between cable and telco, but not within the individual ranks. Each industry is neatly divided by defined territories, with only a few incursions from the other player.
For local residential users the likely result is a duopoly. Remember when we had a duopoly in cellular and it was $0.35 per minute ($0.20 night/weekend)? Yeah, like that.
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join:2005-05-20 | WHAT 30% restriction.. it's not been established.. yet. | |
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dmeyer
join:2002-08-14
Austin, TX | Ugh I hope Insight doesn't give up their Bloomington (IN) operation to Comcast. I like my 10/1 service and things are good the way they are (except too many analog and not enough HD channels). | |
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join:2004-01-17
Urbana, IL
| Re: Ugh Bloomington indiana is one of the northern systems. My guess is that comcast will get all indiana systems north of evansville minus some of the smaller systems. In IL they will get all of it. It might explain why I am seeing a speed boost on all connections in Champaign IL work is almost 7mbits at both buildings and home is almost 13-14 mbits.
THis will get more and more interesting as it goes... | |
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| wstwrdho
join:2007-03-15
Riverton, UT
| Well .... It will be what matches the Comcast footprint. If you are surrounded by comcast systems you might be a candidate to become a Comcast customer. If not chances are you'll stay Insight. I certainly don't know but unless I miss my guess Bloomington would be one of Insights flagship systems so I would bet on staying with them. But I could be wrong. | |
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join:2004-01-17
Urbana, IL
| Re: Ugh According to Insight’s 10-K annual report, the company has about 600,000 customers in northern Indiana and Illinois, including systems in Peoria, Champaign/Urbana, Decatur and Springfield, Ill., and in Lafayette, Richmond, Bloomington and Kokomo, Ind.
Insight’s southern Indiana, Kentucky and Ohio systems have about 681,000 customers and include systems in Louisville and Lexington, Ky.; Columbus, Ohio; and Evansville, Ind
That tells me they will be keeping the southern systems since comcast gets half the customers | |
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Noblesville, IN
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| Re: Ugh said by GLIMMER :...Insight’s southern Indiana, Kentucky and Ohio systems have about 681,000 customers and include systems in Louisville and Lexington, Ky.; Columbus, Ohio; and Evansville, Ind That tells me they will be keeping the southern systems since comcast gets half the customers That also makes sense when you look at how Insight has their phone service set up. Insight phone customers in those four cities that you mention use a circuit switched PSTN based system. Customers in all other Insight phone markets use a VoIP based system via a VLAN on Insight's network. | |
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| said by dmeyer :I hope Insight doesn't give up their Bloomington (IN) operation to Comcast. I like my 10/1 service and things are good the way they are (except too many analog and not enough HD channels). you are pretty much surrounded by Comcast areas so I am betting you will be gobbled up....
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Louisville, KY
| Re: Ugh The article stated if the deal is done, it is likely Insight will sell off southern Indiana, Kentucky and Ohio systems to possible buyers like Time Warner Cable. Sound like Insight will soon be gone! 
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join:2005-08-30
Columbus, OH | Re: Ugh i'd say the time warner thing is probaly a shure thing for the columbus,oh system, since were allready using the road runner HSI with insight. and basicaly time warner "ownes" 65% of columbus, inisght 35% and wow at 0% since they are the overbuilder | |
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Carmel, IN | ghhf there goes my good internet  | |
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Montclair, NJ
| Cable companies are bad employers Though I am stuck using Comcast for my TV since I have no other choice, and for my high speed connection because by the time FiOS showed up I was locked into a 2 year deal, I hate having to do it. Despite their ridiculously high prices, cable companies have a really bad record providing good jobs. They pay their technical workers 37% less than the Unionized "wired" telcom companies and their service representatives (the reps you talk to on the phone)77% less. They work hard to fight every attempt to Unionize and when workers do finally get a Union, they won't give them first contracts. I want speed. I want affordability. But I also want to chose a provider that provides good jobs. | |
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| My brother has worked at Insight in their technical department for over 5 years and doesn't make shit. His last yearly raise was like $.30/on the hour. He knows a lot about their products and products they must continue to support to keep their customers,yet they pay him so poorly. Their customer service people are mostly fat and old, and have no idea how to hook up your VCR, let alone, an HDTV box to a home theater. They are probably more concerned about hitting the snack machine during the day. The only benefit to working there is he gets every channel for free, PPV 1/2 price, and I think he pays $6 for his high speed modem. | |
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Some Insight Customers Could Be Heading To Comcast
