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The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | LOL Could the lack of posts mean that no one gives a damn about Wild Blue or sat internet? | |
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Mac Bridger
Beat It Again Bill
Premium
join:2001-01-11
Smithton, PA
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| Re: LOL I'm in a similar situation. I moved 15 minutes out of Pittsburgh and now I can't get anything but 19kbps dial up.
While the increased capacity is nice, I feel dirty at the thought of paying $50 a month for 512 kbps down from WildBlue after I was paying $29 a month for 6 mbps sown from Comcast... | |
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RR Conductor
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
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December 11th, @11:52PM
| A lot do, you're lucky to have oodles of broadband in the big city, many are not so lucky. I have Adelphia (to become Comcast next month) HSI, but most areas in this very rural and rugged county are relegated to dial-up, and maybe wireless if they're lucky (a lot of mountains and trees here), there is a wireless outfit that provides service in some area. | |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| Re: LOL Why do people in rural areas need bandwidth anyway? The Farm channel has all the news they need to grow my food...and they can occupy free time by humping relatives and line dancing at the neighborhood bar  | |
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RR Conductor
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA | Re: LOL Why do city people need it, they all do drugs, prostitute and kill each other, right? | |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| Re: LOL We need it so we can keep ourselves up to date on terror-o-meter color of the day. You know, the one that looks like the gay pride rainbow. You don't want the terrorists to win do you? | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Costs too much for people to care. $600 for the dish and $60 a month for 700 kbps is way to much caps or no caps. Unitl they realize that satelite will never take off. Their only customers are people in the boonies and they are POOR. That's why they live in the boonies. A dozen years ago DirectTV dishes were $750 now they are less than $100 yet somehow the price of satelite internet dishes haven't fallen one iota in the last 6 years. HDTVs and every other bit of newer technology has FALLEN significantly over that time, but not the satelite dishes. Hmmmmmmm.
If they would smart they would eat the cost of the dishes just to get customers and only charge $100 or less. Give the customers a reduced rate for 6 months and they'd make much more money. People on dial-up mostly haven't used broadband so they don't know how much better it is. Get them used to using broadband FIRST then charge more for it when they can't live without it. That's how drug dealers do it. Get them addicted FIRST. You think crack would have been as big at it's gotten if they start off charging $500 a rock? | |
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| clickie
join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI
| Re: Costs too much for people to care. You obviously didn't read the FAP link. A guy who is living off-grid from photovoltaics isn't what I'd consider "poor".
It's expensive, and I just don't see the price of it dropping much below $50 per month. But if you want to be away from people, it's the price you pay for something other than dial-up. If they're poor, as you stated in your post, then they can't afford broadband in any form. | |
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| | BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: Costs too much for people to care. said by clickie  :It's expensive, and I just don't see the price of it dropping much below $50 per month. But if you want to be away from people, it's the price you pay for something other than dial-up. If they're poor, as you stated in your post, then they can't afford broadband in any form. Not true. You can get 1.5 Mbps for Bellsouth for $33 a month almost half of the cost of this crap in which you get half the speed. Just because one can't afford $60 doesn't mean they can't afford $33. Also it's the value thing. twice as much for half the speed isn't good value. Hell I pay $47 a month for 6 Mbps fom BS. Satelite is a rip off PERIOD. Would DirectTV have as many customers if they cahrge $100 a month for the same programming as the local cable guys do for $50? of course not.
As far as "They choose to live out in the boonies for they deserve to have crappy ISPs" So kids that live out in the boonies don't desever and education. People that live out in the booies don't deserve electricity and running water or phone service because they CHOOSE to live there?
And before you point out those are necessitites and broadband isn't. Well phones used to be considered a LUXURY. And my great grandaprents lived the vast majority of their lives just fine without electricity and running water. And some of them lived into their 90's. So how necessary is it?
Hell my son is amazed that until I was 13 I didn't have cable and maybe had only 8 channels to watch and that I was 11 before video game system where available for homes. His whole life there has been an internet the concept of a world without it is foreign to kids his age. So this concept of broadband being a luxury will fade over time and quicker than you think. Plenty of people including myself look at people with dial-up as we would look at Amish people. Totally amazed at how they get by. And you're talking to someone who didn't get on the internet until he was 31. There are already things in school that require kids to have internet access. So kids without it are at an educational disadvantage and that will only get worse over time. So how is something that is REQUIRED by the PUBLIC schools that are funded by TAXPAYER $$$$ considered a LUXURY? | |
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| rprather12
join:2005-03-12
Modesto, CA | Wow! Olympic class conclusion jumping!
There are hundreds of thousands if not millions or people that live in the "Boonies" that are a long way from being "poor"!
Satellite may be the answer for a lot of them. | |
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| | Brigrat
join:2003-09-01
Lovington, NM
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| Re: Costs too much for people to care. I am one of them...I live just outside of a small town in rural SE New Mexico...I work in the Nuclear Industry, and since we are just building the facility, the infrastructure hasn't caught up with us yet...Money isn't an issue (at least in terms of internet), but options are...my phone line is so bad, Dial-up barely works. Satellite Internet was the ONLY option for me. I hardly live in the Boonies though, I am ust 5 minutes from town. | |
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Mac Bridger
Beat It Again Bill
Premium
join:2001-01-11
Smithton, PA
clubs: | I live less than 30 minutes from downtown Pittsburgh. WildBlue is my only broadband option. I hardly consider that "the boonies". | |
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join:2003-09-01
Lovington, NM | The Dish and installation was $199, and the service is around $60, you were only off by $400... | |
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | i believe their website says 250 or so for the dish with free installation | |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
join:2005-01-03
Riverside, WA
·CableOne
| Re: Costs too much for people to care. It's amazing how two people can look at the same webpage and pull two different numbers.
Wild blue Plans and Pricing
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | Re: Costs too much for people to care. I posted what i remembered from their site. It may have been a while ago. Point taken amount corrected to $199. | |
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| aeblank
join:2004-09-07
Cadillac, MI
| Dangit, I just found out that since I can't get DSL, I'm poor.
I *hate* being poor.
Silly me, not having to fence in my dog or have shades on my windows.
ISDN is as good as it gets. Stupid SBC/AT&T and Charter not pushing their network out. | |
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| PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| said by BF69 :Their only customers are people in the boonies and they are POOR. Maybe in Tennessee. 'not at all true on the East and West coasts. Or in Colorado, Wyoming, Texas, etc., for that matter. | |
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join:2005-03-12
Modesto, CA | Re: Costs too much for people to care. Add many of the very expensive houses located in the Santa Cruz mountains with a view of Silicon Valley to your list.
Many of those people own major tech businesses in Silicon Valley and have just recently gotten access to broadband. | |
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MTC_Wes
join:2004-04-22
Fergus, ON
| When satellite internet (satellite return) first came out 6+ years ago it was $1299 for Hardware and $400 for install.. so $1700 hardware PLUS $100+ month for service.
No adays they are giving away the hardware for $400 or less, $100 for install and $55 a month.. It seems to me that the overall price of satellite internet has come down significantly. | |
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| | BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: Costs too much for people to care. said by opus74 :Poor? Poor! ..... Looks like your hometown is a thriving urban metropolis... Camden, TN
Population (year 2000): 3,828.
Estimated population in July 2005: 3,736 (-2.4% change)
Males: 1,723 (45.0%), Females: 2,105 (55.0%)
Median resident age: 43.9 years
Median household income: $26,348Not everyone in the country is poor. I actually like it here and I'll compare W-2s and lifestyle with the urbans any day. First of all I wasn't insulting you so get off of it. I was making a point. A pro "satelite companies needs to lower prices" points. Sorry you think you should be paying MORE. Jeez talk about something going completely over your head. I never said where I lived was urban or a metropolis or better or anything. In fact when I said boonies I include my local area. So go ahead and insult Camden I do every fricken day. It sucks, so you aren't hurting my feelings. I'm not from here. Anyways, learn to understand CONTEXT.
Camden isn't my hometown. I just live her right now so no need to even bring it up. If you wish to bring up my "hometown" data try using Sarasota, Florida. How's that compare? | |
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DHRacer
Fire Survivor
join:2000-10-10
Lake Arrowhead, CA
·Verizon west (ex G..
·Charter Pipeline
| Speaking of waiting... DTV, where's all the stuff these new sats (two of them) were supposed to provide? They put the sats up over a year ago, and still nothing! Last I heard, one was undergoing testing and the other was yet to be launched.
I've got that new Ka band sat dish and the compatible receiver, I was hoping for like a huge increase in HD stuff at least, but nothing!
Ok, thread hijack over...I just felt the same pain as WildBlue customers.
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Siryak
join:2005-11-26
·WildBlue
| Re: Speaking of waiting... To those thinking about getting Wildblue you might want to take a look in the forums. Wildblue sent out an "upgrade" 11/17 and it has caused latency to sky rocket. The service is absolutely horrible right now and I wouldn't recommend it to my worst enemy. So you might want to check out what you are getting into before you buy it.
Here is what the pings look like 24/7.
Pinging yahoo.com [66.94.234.13] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=1384ms TTL=48
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=1190ms TTL=46
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=2391ms TTL=48
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=1140ms TTL=47
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=2387ms TTL=47
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=2387ms TTL=46
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=1158ms TTL=47
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=1200ms TTL=47
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=2419ms TTL=47
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=1274ms TTL=48
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=1209ms TTL=46
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=1156ms TTL=48
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=1174ms TTL=47
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=1554ms TTL=47
Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=1159ms TTL=47
Ping statistics for 66.94.234.13:
Packets: Sent = 15, Received = 15, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1140ms, Maximum = 2419ms, Average = 1545ms
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join:2006-10-28
Richmond, VA
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When Can Customers Use the New WildBlue Satellite?
