2004 2005 2006 the Year of BPLOr not ( old news - 01:34PM Thursday Nov 30 2006) tags: BPLEach year we watch the broadband over powerline (BPL) industry proclaim that this year is "the year" BPL will shine, and each year we see limited trials and hesitant utilities, yet no absence of optimistic chatter from the FCC and BPL hardware vendors. The latest bubbly press release comes courtesy of a company named Trimax, who praises the FCC's deregulation of BPL nearly a month after the move. The release (and the calendar) got us thinking: wasn't BPL supposed to have been a major broadband player by now? BPL was tagged the "great broadband hope" by the last FCC commissioner and championed as a potential competitive panacea by the current one. Our first ever mention of it had our (and your) hearts aflutter. Some thought broadband would soon be pouring from every electrical outlet, offering a viable third player in a market many think is little more than a stagnant coordinated duopoly. Kevin Martin declared BPL held "great promise" as a "ubiquitous broadband solution" that could help the country achieve President Bush's declaration of universal broadband by 2007. Meanwhile, back in reality, a flood of radio engineers pointed out that powerlines really weren't suitable for bandwidth transmission. Interference issues were documented, trials in a number of foreign countries were shut down and even the NTIA began to worry that the technology wasn't fully cooked. BPL skepticism began to set in...unless you worked at the FCC or for a BPL hardware vendor. Back in 2004, fans of the tech didn't like our suggestion that BPL was probably only a niche technology: "I find that your lean is clearly anti-BPL and it is slanting the news to that extreme - you are doing the public no good service with that outdated view. Not only is BPL here to stay and likely to account for 33% of Broadband in the next few years, but it is very important to communications going foreward (sic) in the U.S. and the world."Fast forward nearly three years: The FCC's last broadband report (pdf) listed 5,859 BPL customers in the United States as of December, 2005. The majority of those customers are still participating in utility trials that may or may not continue. Many utilities are interested in BPL solely as a smart-network monitoring solution and aren't sold on becoming broadband providers. Perhaps 2007 will be the BPL industry's lucky year? Related:- FCC, Hams Spar Over Powerline Broadband
- Tasmanian BPL Trial Scrapped
- BPL is Back with a New Face
- Princeton IL Completes BPL Network
- DirecTV, Current Offer Broadband Over Powerline
- Court Agrees with ARRL in FCC BPL Issue
- Broadband Over Powerline (BPL) Stumbles
- BPL: Only 4,776 Subscribers
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| 2008.. 2008 sounds more like it.. And by then there will be other forms of highspeed available to most people (fiber, high speed cable, faster wireless, etc).
I doubt the service would be very reliable, I would only get such a thing if it was high bandwidth symmetrical line, like 20/20 or so.
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|  |   N3OGH They both suck, we're so screwed Premium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs | Re: 2008.. 2008 "A broadband odyssey"
I'm sorry Dave, but I'm afraid I can't do BPL... | |
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| Re: 2008.. or 2007 for DUKE ENERGY BPL !!! BPL DEPLOYMENT MAP shows 7 Commercial BPL rollouts and 38 ongoing trials !!! »www.uplc.utc.org/file_depot/0-10···2_12.pdf
Duke Energy in North Carolina looks like serious of getting the number 8 spot for wide area rollout ...imho
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| Re: 2008.. or 2007 for ENTERGY Corp. BPL ?
Entergy Corp. Enters BPL World with Ambient Corp. Pilot: Smart Grid and Triple-Play services to be demoed !!! 12/5/2006 Source: »xrl.us/torr
Entergy enters BPL world with Ambient pilot Most BPL deployments worldwide have been -- and the few big ones started with -- a tire-kicking technology trial . . .
"The ENTERGY Corp. BPL pilot will begin during the fourth quarter oof this year and will last six months at ENTERGY`s West Markham office in Little Rock, Arkansas"
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join:2003-08-04 USA | Re: 2008.. or 2007 for ENTERGY Corp. BPL ? Thirty-eight Thirty-nine ongoing trials!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Re: 2008.. or 2007 for ENTERGY Corp. BPL ? If you are using the UPLC BPL map as your source, you will have to delete a few of them. At least 8 of the systems that UPLC is claiming are providing BPL have shut down or never appeared in the UPLC's BPL database.
Of the systems that are actually in operation, most have only a handful of customers involved in a technology or marketing trial.
With BPL presently listed as being in 138 ZIP codes at best, and bragging about 5,800 BPL lines as compared to millions for cable and DSL, I don't think anyone can claim 2006 as the year of BPL.
Although there is some forward progress being made by the industry on interference issues, they are doing now what they should have done three years ago. Had the industry chosen to act responsibly from the getgo, although I don't think that BPL would be a rousing success, the industry probably would have more to brag about than 0.011% of the total high-speed lines being BPL.
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| Re: 2008.. or 2007 for ENTERGY Corp. BPL ? With fairness to BPL, FCC had just recently give equal status to BPL like DSL and cable as Information service last 11/3/2006. This gives clearance to any BPL and Utility provider a clearer rules. Next year, hopefully we should see more trials and Commercial rollouts... imho -- Unleash the opportunities of a SYMMETRICAL 200Mbps Smart Grid, IPTV and in-home networking for business optimisation of your commercial opportunities of BPL/PLC with killer applications & services: in-home MDU networking, IPTV and triple-play... !!! | |
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| It's a shame I do wish that BPL didn't have the interference problem and was a viable third choice of broadband. I doubt anything will ever become of BPL, but hopefully someone will come up with something. I think that EVDO-style wireless connections are the real future in the long run. | |
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| Re: It's a shame BPL is wonderful on paper, but there are too many technical issues. The progress made in high speed wireless communications will take what little market made financial sense for BPL. It may yet stake out a market in older high rise buildings that are just too difficult to run fiber, but as a mainstream broadband technology it is dead. -- Registered Bandwidth Offender #40812 | |
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| EVDO.... You can pretty much presume that the less effort a company has to make to supply a service, the more likey it's going to be provided.
BPL while ingenious, requires A LOT of extra pieces parts...where something like EVDO only requires that the customer purchase a card, and that a signal be pumped through the cellular towers already in existence...
EVDO will likely take it's place in the realm of "last mile" connectivity. | |
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| Re: It's a shame Dealing with interference issues is incredibly easy and won't cost much money at all. Anyone can do it, in fact. No technical skills are required.
Simply go to those people who are complaining about interference, look them straight in the eyes, and say "[vulgar synonym for 'have sexual intercourse with'] yourself". Simple, easy, even politicians can do it if they try.
BPL is perfectly viable. It just makes some other services inviable sometimes. Its only a problem to the people who care about those services and people who care about those services are a very small minority. | |
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| Same with WiMAx I seem to recall reading about 3 years ago that WiMax was the soon to be killer delivery method for HSI in rural areas where DSL and Cable were not available.
Well 3 years later....
New all technologies face 3 major hurdles:
Technology development is always at least 3x more expensive and takes at least twice as long as planned.
Financing: some investors will have to foot the bill for the development and roll out and he will want a decent payback based on risk.
Customers: Once you have the technology and financing, you actually need someone who will pay you for the new super-wiz-bang technology. You need more than the early adopters who will try anything, you need many long term customers that will pay back the people who financed the technology.
PBL is in this category I am afraid. The technology is not done, investors are nervous and since it is not really ready, customers are few. -- The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. | |
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| Simply...... OINK ! |
No scale of economy exists to support BPL as a going concern....IF it worked and was cost effective, THEN there would be more acceptance of it among consumers.
They may be some limited SCADA implementations of BPL for the utilities' use, but as an alternative to the other offerings it doesn't hold water.
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| You snooze you loose! BPL just waited too long entering the mainstream markets. At this point they will need a far superior product for peeps to go thru the hassle of swapping out ISP's. When you add that most are getting some sort of bundled discount, like others here, I dont see BPL as having a bright future. | |
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| it's like the iraq war if things aren't panning out the way you would like, just say 6-8 months are needed to turn things around.
when 6-8 months are up, just repeat the previous mantra.
rinse and repeat; before you know it, years will have passed with absolutely no progress whatsoever, but with BPL still considered a viable alternative.
they can probably keep this up until everybody in the U.S. has fiber, at which point they may or may not give up. | |
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| BPL This technology is suffering the same fate that other technologies have in the past. All because a group of someones found a problem with the technology, and incessantly whine until it has a bad name and nobody wants to pick it up for fear of the bad publicity.
It is a VERY viable solution if implemented properly with the correct technological advancements in appropriately populated areas.
Is it BPL's fault that for so long other companies and their technologies have held an "opoly" over this industry for so many years? NO. Now that a new technology has come along that threatens their pocketbooks, they are willing to stoop to whatever level it takes to prevent it from growing roots, and taking profits from the conglomerates in the long run.
A recent private survey done in north central Indiana asked Utility Companies, and select subscribers to their services if they would be willing to participate in a rollout test. Approximately 79% said they would be willing. When Utility companies were asked why they don't. The most common response was that they had heard a lot of negative (albeit false) reports that the technology was fundamentally flawed. | |
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