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| Re: Pffft I agree, as much as one can to the sound of air being sarcastically exhaled through closed lips... Pffftt... A walking Wi-Fi finder, soon she'll be on sale too!
No, in all seriousness, this is ludicrous. I bet she's the type that also doesn't stand near an on microwave oven, wears tinfoil, and drives a 1969 Lincoln Continental (because that's the last model before they started using evil computers to do fuel/air mixture automation).
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in her defence, if the power supply is making a high pitched noise, it can make you feel nauseous and can cause head aches. Some of these high pitched sounds we can't always hear and it could be easy to blame the radio waves instead.
My aunt has a really old alarm system that runs on ultrasounds instead of the modern infrared detectors. I'm the only person that feels nauseous as soon as I pass through her hallway where she has it installed. But the Wifi.... I don't know, I hope she doesn't own a cell phone!?!?! | |
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Land O Lakes, FL | Re: Yak yak yak! Bla bla blah! Lady, I guess you will have to buy one of them old nuclear silos in the midwest so you can hide from the numer 1 source of electromagnetic radiation...the SUN! | |
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@comcast.net | Re: Yak yak yak! Bla bla blah! How can you say that? Every person on Earth is like a snow flake. Nobody is the same verbatim. I have no doubt that what she says is true. I can feel the radiation from a cell phone when I am holding it as an example. Open your mind! | |
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UK | Re: Yak yak yak! Bla bla blah! No you can't. You expect to feel it, so you feel it. | |
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| Re: Yak yak yak! Bla bla blah! Every person is different therefore what affects one person MAY NOT affect another. Just because you can not feel a cell phone's radiation when the phone is in use doesn't mean that this is the way it is for everyone. When my cell phone is in use any part of my body that is in contact with it or very near to it gets hot from the radiation the cell phone puts out. The same goes for microwave ovens. If I'm close to one in use I can feel the radiation emanating from it. In fact, there is a video floating around the Internet somewhere where two Russian guys did a test on cell phone radiation with an egg. Google that and see what you come up with. Maybe then your mind will open up to new possibilities. Good luck. | |
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1 edit | Re: Yak yak yak! Bla bla blah! (1) Never trust Russian newspapers.
(2) Cellphones -do- emit radiation. RF radiation. And that RF radiation is not powerful enough to penetrate tinfoil,
I'd suggest a new tinfoil hat if you are so inclined.
(3) Microwave ovens emit RF radiation approx 1000 times more powerful than cellphones do. But only -inside- a metal box that has been designed not to "leak", in other words, what goes on in the box, stays in the box.
If you can "feel" a microwave oven in use by standing nearby in the same room, either the oven has a defective seal (possible) or you have grown a new sensory organ capable of detecting millimeter wavelength radio transmissions. Welcome, Space Brother! I bow to your obviously superior adaptation of the human genetic code.
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| You bring some interesting points but fail to explain why my hand/ear/leg or whatever comes into contact with a cell phone that's in use, I can feel getting warm. Also, don't you think it's possible that some people are more or less sensitive to stimuli than others? Such as people who walk on fire and walk on water. I think it's important here to keep your mind open to possibilities that go beyond what your eye can see. It doesn't really matter to me that you don't believe in what you can not see or quantify scientifically, what concerns me is the tunnel vision so many people have. At one time in our history it was believed that the world was flat and people who believed it was round were ridiculed and called weird. As it turns out, the world IS round. Time will show that cell phones are not as safe as you think they are. | |
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You fail at life.
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| Re: Yak yak yak! Bla bla blah! I'm not at all denying you may think you have the ability to sense the radiation but I do have to fill you in on a fairly well known secret (read: fact). Cell phones do in fact get warm when in use. Your hand (which adds to the heat), your ear (Which adds to the heat) and your leg (which adds to the heat) are all functioning within normal parameters. These are all normal sensations people have when using a cell phone. I don't see where anything you have described is any different from anyone else.
They are small devices who generate quite a bit of power within themselves, so there's more than enough reason for them to "heat up". The fact that you feel this "heat" doesn't mean you can feel or sense the radiation. Unless of course we're missing something....
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| Re: Yak yak yak! Bla bla blah! said by PolarBear  :I fully agree with you, DSU. And as for as the UNREGISTERED guest's comments go, the fact that he "senses" these things are all psychological, as for as I am concerned. That is the one thing that is different about ALL human beings: the mind. Careful, this is the infamous "taylor troll" that rants on music pirates who question his view on P2P.  | |
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| Wait, you seem to be confusing urban legends with factual evidence. We are not talking about urban legends here.
No walking on fire or water. By your reasoning, fire is a health concern and we should not expose ourselves directly to it. So is water, we could actually drown. -UNSAFE!!-
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There is no factual evidence that cellphones can cause illness of any kind, excluding chemical poisoning caused by actually ingesting the cellphone and it's battery.
You seem to believe that since microwave ovens make water hot, cellphones do the same thing since they use the same range of microwave frequencies.
False analogy.
The woman in the article claimed the same things, but I have not seen any evidence that there were double blind tests done to confirm her self-diagnosis. In other words, she -believes- the wifi makes her sick, so that justifies her attack on the technology.
Check the source. It's England, these are the same folks who supposedly witnessed "spontaneous combustion" of people. (I think they tried to blame microwaves for that as well...)(something about a Russian death ray)
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| Re: Yak yak yak! Bla bla blah! said by treetop1000 :You seem to believe that since microwave ovens make water hot, cellphones do the same thing since they use the same range of microwave frequencies.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but don't cellphones range from 850MHz to 1900MHZ (2400 MHz for my T-Mobile Wi-Fi phone), and microwaves run at MUCH HIGHER frequencies?
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Portage, IN | Re: Yak yak yak! Bla bla blah! No, a standard microwave oven uses 2400MHz, just like Wifi and cordless phones. But, wifi broadcasts using milliwatts of power, where a powerful microwave oven is "broadcasting" over a thousand watts. | |
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| Re: Yak yak yak! Bla bla blah! That's exactly my point. I've NEVER seen anyone walk on water... so why should I believe it's even possible? Millions of people think it's already happened. Just because I have not walked on water myself doesn't mean that I can't or that you can't. Just because you can not feel your cell phone's radiation doesn't mean other people will not be able to feel it. All people are like snow flakes, each person is very unique with their own special strengths and weakness'. | |
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| All electronic devices and power sources heat up when in use. As the electricity flows through the phone's electronics, the circuits will give off heat. Also, a battery will give off heat as it generates electricity through chemical reaction. Unless the phone's a major power hog, the most heat will be put out by the battery as it drains. That's probably the heat source you're feeling.
The signal from a cell phone is an oscillating microwave transmission, so it might theoretically induce some water molecule oscillation, but it's not a lot of power to shove around water molecules. Any heat generated (and I doubt it'd even be 1 degree Celsius) would be masked by what's put out by the battery's chemical reaction and the electricity flowing through the phone as it overcomes the resistance of the circuits. | |
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| Re: Yak yak yak! Bla bla blah! said by Conrad :
why can't it be detected by someone everything affects people differently.
And why do unregistered posters always have such bad grammar?
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| Re: Pffft I think I could make a BETTER case for becoming "Exhausted, nauseous and sleepless" over property taxes, and so could about 12,000 other people within 23 miles of me.
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Alexandria, VA | Heh... If you'd spent hundreds of pounds on WiFi equipment, you'd feel ill too. That's a serious amount of signal being thrown up (figure 20-30£ per AP, she musta had a dozen APs in her house!).
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| Re: *Snore* I have a minimum of eight wireless access points running in my house at any given time (partly for covering the entirety of the property and partly because I am using a WDS configuration to preclude the running of ethernet to difficult locations), I have suffered no ill effects from this equipment. Further, most of them are Linksys access points running third-party firmware...with boosted output power. | |
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| Do an investigation....... If she has any cordless phones in the house, uses a cell phone or has a microwave, then something is fishy about her story.
Two quotes from the article:
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Cell phones, wi-fi, computers and a plethora of things continuiously emit signals in the same frequency band. So it would be a pretty good trick for someone to be able to detect and discriminate these signals without sophisticated test equipment.
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The electromagnetic fields in your home, due to it's internal wiring, is much larger and more powerful than anything your consumer wi-fi electronics is capable of creating and the same is true for your computer monitor and or television set.
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chrislo
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Hawley, PA | Weird. I sleep only 15 feet away from my wireless router and I never had any of these problems. Either she is full of herself or she has some weird condition that sets her off to WIFI. I never heard of such a thing I think its something else. | |
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Crown City, OH | Re: Weird. I sleep 2 feet away from mine. I can smell colors now. | |
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Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
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Glen Allen, VA | hogwash This is just a prelude to the many lawsuits coming in the next few months... Any good lawyer will be able to shoot those down since most of the population uses microwaves and cordless phones and never had a problem with them. | |
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join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| Should be easy to test ... quote:
she can immediately detect if they are present the second she enters a room
Well, do a double-blind experiment and report the results!
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| Hmm Further investigation reveals that her symptoms were in fact caused by her USING the router 24x7 shopping for designer knock-off handbags and shoes.
Exhausted, nauseous and sleepless....gee let's see, up all night, high on caffeine...sounds about right.
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xerxes3642
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Saint Charles, MO | She also claims that it has caused her to gain weight, severe drop in sex drive, her appetite in insatiable and she spends money like crazy.
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| Re: She also claims said by xerxes3642 :She also reported that she got the wireless router shortly after getting married.
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Mount Airy, MD | Good Thing For Loser Pays System in UK If the UK did not have a loser pays system for civil lawsuits, then this woman might be able to cash in on her feigned illness.
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| Re: Good Thing For Loser Pays System in UK said by pnh102 :If the UK did not have a loser pays system for civil lawsuits, then this woman might be able to cash in on her feigned illness. If only the United States legal system worked like that, many of these frivolous lawsuits here would be nonexistent. | |
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| One Million Dollars! A testable claim of the paranormal!
The claim:
She also claims she can immediately detect if they are present the second she enters a room.
All that lying self-deluded sack of protoplasm has to do is go to »www.randi.org/research/index.html and she'll grab herself fast cash. If she's not a lying self-deluded sack of protoplasm, that is.
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Montreal, QC | That's cool! Your very own wi-fi finder! I woner if she can tell if it's WEP, WPA or open! If she could tell the SSID that would be worth something! | |
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| said by vincent9993 :Your very own wi-fi finder! I woner if she can tell if it's WEP, WPA or open! If she could tell the SSID that would be worth something! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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join:2005-04-07
West Lafayette, IN | HAHA Somebody ought to head over to her place and setup several wap's with 3 watt amps and high gain directional antenna's.
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| Re: HAHA Radiation isn’t bad; I can’t stand the hype that these people cause. My microwave door broke a few years ago so I took it off and it’s been fine since. I don’t feel sick when using it and that’s 900 watts right and wifi is like 0.03 watts so I don’t know what her problem is! | |
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Morgan Hill, CA | Re: HAHA Sounds fishy. Microwave ovens have a safety interlock switch to prevent the magnetron tube from operating when the door is open ... or missing altogether. | |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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| Re: HAHA Not knowing exactly what Irtc did with his microwave, I know that interlock switches are easy to defeat, like the switch on your clothes washer or car door. Push the switch in and VIOLA! the device still works with the door open/missing!
On the other hand, I think that 1000+ watts (like most modern microwave ovens) of power is still too much radiation. I would never run a microwave oven with the door missing, although I have no problems with cell phones or wi-fi.
One or two or even four watts (Cb radio, anyone? hell, it's been around longer than anything else we use in our homes) is ok, but 1000 watts is a little too much for me.
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Staten Island, NY | When CDs came out... There were audio engineers so bent on using analog only, they actually claimed they heard the code on the CD, the ones and zeros, along with the music. Along with advertizing.
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join:2004-05-26
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| interesting... while i can imagine that some people might be sensitive to certain forms of EMR, I find it hard to believe that it could make you sick... also, using the phrase "negative health effects" is quite ambiguous to say the least, but we are constantly bombarded by EMR 24/7... you can't escape it unless you lived deep underground and even then, you may get hit by a stray neutrino or cosmic ray... this sort of fear of technology is irrational and people who profess that they are suffering from "negative health effects" from it should have their credibility questioned... | |
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| Reminds me of a co-worker's tale He put up a Ham Radio antenna, and a neighbor complained about his interference. Finally got tired of him not taking care of the problem so she took him to court. Said she knew it was him because she recognized his voice.
Two problems.
1. He only did CW (you know, di-dahs's and not voice).
2. The transmitter was still in a box at his mother's house.
While I do not agree with the lack of harm on wifi and other radiation sources, I also do not believe that an adult (babies are a different subject) will see any affects of that type of exposure (excluding cell phones) for many many years unless they carry the thing next to the body 24-7.
Heck, as some people pointed out, CELL PHONES put out signals too that can be in that range. Does walking into a store with all the losers who can't put down the phone for one second cause the same problem?
And before everyone jumps on this with the poo-poo comments, just remember...At one time the medical profession considered HEROIN a miracle drug that was THE cure for many illnesses and problems (and how many people here use it today? Probably less than 1%.) Also, in the early days of radio, exposure to RF was thought be a non-issue, yet that turned out to not be true, hence we have exposure limits. For things like this that are relatively new (continuous long term exposure of a constant low level V/U/SHF signal in a residential environment) we are just guinea pigs for the industry, maybe we win, maybe we lose, time will tell.
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| I was violated by Aliens It is true I tell ya! I remember when I first started communication with the outer world with my wifi router. I started having nightmares, headaches, nose bleeds and swollen glands.
It's difficult for me to discuss, but I was abducted my aliens. They tapped into my signal and beamed into my basement. These evil creatures took me on board their spaceship. They did very awful, sick disgusting thing to me. Disconnect your signal; do it NOW Run away fast........ | |
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Computer Over? Virus equals Very Yes?
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| Re: I was violated by Aliens said by Mars probe2 :
It is true I tell ya! I remember when I first started communication with the outer world with my wifi router. I started having nightmares, headaches, nose bleeds and swollen glands.
It's difficult for me to discuss, but I was abducted my aliens. They tapped into my signal and beamed into my basement. These evil creatures took me on board their spaceship. They did very awful, sick disgusting thing to me. Disconnect your signal; do it NOW Run away fast........
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| Re: I was violated by Aliens Not to credit or discount her story but, have any of you ever spent any amount of time in an electromagnetic clean room? When you first step inside one you really feel disoriented like something's missing. People working in one commonly report feeling ill until their bodies have time to adjust to a lack of electro-magnetic radiation. | |
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| Re: I was violated by Aliens Wouldn't that be the entire pentagon then, since they are in effect shielded from electromagnetic radiation?
(Note: I saw on PBS or something how the pentagon has a layer of white noise injected around it to stop any and all radio waves from entering or exiting it; thus, this fact may well be untrue and my point invalid.)
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