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dvd536
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| Re: HAHAHA. said by lxAstrosxl  :And so it begins! REALLY?
who woulda ever thought this was going to happen
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hroo772
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peter_m
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Canada, QC | Re: Music Videos Well, what if it eliminates more then that? I'm guessing that the original audio would have to be watermarked for this system to work. Will the watermarking degrade audio quality of the songs you will purchase from now on? | |
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jjoshua
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| Re: Forcing Google? The threatened RIAA lawsuits did have an effect on the YouTube purchase by Google. I knew Google wouldn't have purchased YouTube with a ton of litigation hanging over the deal. This was the "other shoe" dropping that was implicit in the deal. Google is now a corporate behemoth with stockholders to answer to and they can't afford to coddle copyright infringers.
And things like this helped drive their decision to cooperate: »www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx···le=35026
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jjoshua
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join:2006-09-02 | Re: Forcing Google? And being the source of searches they are it would be a shame of all of a sudden RIAA artists suffered a disappearing act from Google search results listings. | |
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| Bro, Google doesn't have nothing to worry about to begin with. Wasn't YouTube already taken to court and WON a case about having TV programs on it the day after they aired. They won, and were told they could still allow this to be posted on their site. Now the music video situation is something they are "being nice" about, but as it stands, I don't seem to have any problem watching them here, or at Yahoo, where you can watch them on-demand, free of charge anyway. Google technically is extremely wealthy, and it's not because they "constantly worry about lawsuits", because as we've see in the past, when they want something, they don't give a rats ass what the costs or implications might be. Again, I think this is just their way of shutting up the RIAA for now. Eventually it will re-surface.
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cbrigante2
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pnh102
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| Re: Hmmmm said by cbrigante2 :Does this mean Mark Cuban was right? The man is quite rich, he must know something about doing business. Google has tons of money and that is guaranteed to attract lawsuits. Perhaps the sellers of YouTube should do what Cuban did and cash out before the coming crash!
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From Wikipedia - "In 1995, Audionet was conceived with the idea of broadcasting live games and events through the Internet. With a single server and ISDN line,[22] Audionet became Broadcast.com in 1998. By 1999, Broadcast.com had grown to 330 employees and annual revenues close to $100 million.[23] With the stock market in the midst of the Dot-com boom, Broadcast.com was acquired by Yahoo!, and Cuban received about $5.04 billion in Yahoo! stock."
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Agent_haito
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Trinijoy
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| PR damage control Google should intend in eliminating competitors, not tie themselves in bad PR.
YouTube became popular for what it was; a place to upload random content and to a certain extent distribute pirated copyrighted content.
YouTube will become another AOL portal very soon. Shamefully, Google took it in at a very high price. | |
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| And the cycle continues If YouTube will undergo a content scrubbing, people will just flock to other smaller websites where they can post their content without as much fear. People will just continue to migrate underground. It's like with P2P...from Napster to Kazaa to BT and LimeWire.
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| said by Straphanger : People will just continue to migrate underground. It's like with P2P...from Napster to Kazaa to BT and LimeWire. and then back to IRC once BT gets flitered and throttled | |
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dvd536
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| Re: And the cycle continues said by c0de :good ole IRC, noone ever seems to bother it. I seem to remember the FBI getting involved on IRC a few years back relating to warez on IRC.
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| If Google's smart it can counter this legally by taking best measure to ensure that copywritten information is not submitted. It does this by screening uploaded content AND offering its own set of content (at no charge, ad supported) that has been approved by the original artists. Other measures to ensure that their content can't be downloaded without paying for it would also counter the legality issues.
Now obviously smart users know how to get videos from YouTube. Flash isn't the best choice to use. But there are other ways to prohibit downloading. There are some sites where I could grab the audio but no video, even though the video played fine when streamed. There were some sites where no matter what tool I used or what process I did, I just could not grab the stream.
Google just has to play it smart, and YouTube can still be as popular as it is now. | |
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| Re: It won't affect it said by afdsfd :
I have never even watched a music video or tv clip there, other then football clips and personal clips that is what I view, most others are doing the same so it will keep its popularity even if removing the copyrighted junk.
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| Re: It won't affect it Actually I don't think clips are. As long as you don't go over a certain time limit, just like MP3's can be spread around as long as its just an 11 second clip or less (or something like that). Thats also why youtube has limits on size and time, otherwise people would put entire tv shows on there. | |
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| Haha, NIIIIICE... So if I decided to spoof a songs video (kinda like Wierd Al), I might get filtered cause "I'm just too white-n-durty". I wonder how long it will take them to master this.
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| I thought this was covered... On open systems like this I thought there was already a precedent to handle copyright violations.
I thought that as long as the service responds by taking the material off-line when approached by copyright holders, they are not liable for the accidental and temporary distribution of copyrighted content uploaded by their users.
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| Re: I thought this was covered... said by rradina :On open systems like this I thought there was already a precedent to handle copyright violations. I thought that as long as the service responds by taking the material off-line when approached by copyright holders, they are not liable for the accidental and temporary distribution of copyrighted content uploaded by their users. Why do they have to try to do something like this? My last comment on this topic is this. So far, Google has taken a few companies ideas (look at Google Earth for example), and made them great. Google wouldn't have purchased this without a positive gain as the end result. We're talking about the same company who buys dark fiber, and sells "transparent" ad's in their search engine. A company who also gives free e-mail addresses, which also have ad's attached to them (on the side of the message, if you got an e-mail about a car modification, you'll see ad's for car products, or if you get a bill for your Vonage service, you'll see ad's for other VoIP providers when you open the message). They are getting paid bigtime, and this popular site is just the "cream of the crop" move for them. Call them stupid, but this is going to get bigger, and you can bet on that.
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odreian615
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taar
join:2000-11-21 | Already??? I was all for the Google buyout but i never imagined they would start filtering this fast. Looks like people will have to move elsewhere for their videos. I cant believe Google just wasted $1.65B....... | |
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dvd536
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| Re: Already??? said by Jameson :The death of Youtube is coming. coming? its already dead. just introduce money into anything good like this and watch it turn into a pile of steaming poo 
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| said by taar :I was all for the Google buyout but i never imagined they would start filtering this fast. Looks like people will have to move elsewhere for their videos. I cant believe Google just wasted $1.65B....... Doesn't anyone bother to due diligence matters before pulling an opinion out of his ass? Sony BMG Music Entertainment and Warner Music Group both signed deals with Google to include their music videos. And that's just for starters. When the others realize that YouTube can only enhance the exposure of their shitty kiddie muzak pop acts, they'll sign too. Or so goes my theory. But for you all to sit here and talk about the "death" of YouTube is just talking outta yer asses. Google wouldn't shell out $1.65B just for the wildly popular YouTube to fall by the wayside. A little familiarity with the subject matter before dittoheads spout off would be nice around this place.
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| Re: Already??? said by major marco :said by taar :I was all for the Google buyout but i never imagined they would start filtering this fast. Looks like people will have to move elsewhere for their videos. I cant believe Google just wasted $1.65B....... Doesn't anyone bother to due diligence matters before pulling an opinion out of his ass? Sony BMG Music Entertainment and Warner Music Group both signed deals with Google to include their music videos. And that's just for starters. When the others realize that YouTube can only enhance the exposure of their shitty kiddie muzak pop acts, they'll sign too. Or so goes my theory. But for you all to sit here and talk about the "death" of YouTube is just talking outta yer asses. Google wouldn't shell out $1.65B just for the wildly popular YouTube to fall by the wayside. A little familiarity with the subject matter before dittoheads spout off would be nice around this place. Since when has the RIAA used logic? They've sued their own customers, tried to introduce a bill that allowed hacking into PCs they believed to be used for P2P (But was removed), quietly introduced a rootkit into their cds, screwed over their own artists time and again (Besides royalties the 98 DRM also screwed artists on rights ownership), restricted internet radio to the point where it's a shell of it's former self, lobbied congress to enact DRM to the point where you can't breathe because it's restrictive. Did I mention they tried to jack the price of individual I-Tune songs to $1.29 with the future intention of $2.59?? Hopefully this is informative enough for you.
RIAA cares about control, nothing else. Screw enhancing their music, they want you paying their price for music and if they see something as a threat you can be sure they'll go after it.
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| said by major marco :said by taar :I was all for the Google buyout but i never imagined they would start filtering this fast. Looks like people will have to move elsewhere for their videos. I cant believe Google just wasted $1.65B....... Doesn't anyone bother to due diligence matters before pulling an opinion out of his ass? Sony BMG Music Entertainment and Warner Music Group both signed deals with Google to include their music videos. And that's just for starters. When the others realize that YouTube can only enhance the exposure of their shitty kiddie muzak pop acts, they'll sign too. Or so goes my theory. But for you all to sit here and talk about the "death" of YouTube is just talking outta yer asses. Google wouldn't shell out $1.65B just for the wildly popular YouTube to fall by the wayside. A little familiarity with the subject matter before dittoheads spout off would be nice around this place. Hey asswipe, see how "popular" all the others who signed deals with the record companies are??? The bottomline is that people dont like restrictions. If YouTube starts to restrict content, folks will find another home! Now keep your retarded theories to yourself and this place might be "nicer". | |
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YEAH YOU RIAA I be rollin down Pico with a bazooka!
Hey 21st century humans!
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