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footballdude
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join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
| Re: Merger side-effect? said by mesmerMAN  :will these prices ever come to bellsouth in miami ;-;? As soon as the DOJ & FCC give their approval to the merger. | |
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Oleg
Bellsouth Fastaccess
Premium
join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL |  Re: AT&T Confirms New DSL Prices/Plans
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Thaler
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| Re: AT&T Confirms New DSL Prices/Plans said by Oleg :How come I can get AT&T DSL,but not SBC/Yahoo AT&T DSL? What Is going on? I believe they merged. Maybe they're dropping the acquired name for the new services? | |
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Oleg
Bellsouth Fastaccess
Premium
join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL
| Re: AT&T Confirms New DSL Prices/Plans said by Thaler :said by Oleg :How come I can get AT&T DSL,but not SBC/Yahoo AT&T DSL? What Is going on? I believe they merged. Maybe they're dropping the acquired name for the new services? So this means I can't signup for SBC/Yahoo! AT&T DSL  | |
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Thaler
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| Re: AT&T Confirms New DSL Prices/Plans said by Oleg :said by Thaler :said by Oleg :How come I can get AT&T DSL,but not SBC/Yahoo AT&T DSL? What Is going on? I believe they merged. Maybe they're dropping the acquired name for the new services? So this means I can't signup for SBC/Yahoo! AT&T DSL Well, as per your first quote, you said you could get AT&T DSL as meantioned in the article, but not SBC/Yahoo DSL. I thought it was simply a naming difference, but maybe I'm not quite grasping the question right. | |
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Oleg
Bellsouth Fastaccess
Premium
join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL
| Re: AT&T Confirms New DSL Prices/Plans said by Thaler :Well, as per your first quote, you said you could get AT&T DSL as meantioned in the article, but not SBC/Yahoo DSL. I thought it was simply a naming difference, but maybe I'm not quite grasping the question right. I will call SBC/Yahoo DSL and find out why. | |
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Corona
It's cool, I'm takin it back
Premium
join:2000-03-14
Aubrey, TX | Re: AT&T Confirms New DSL Prices/Plans Because you're in Alabama.
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | AT&T DSL is offered by the old AT&T Covad deal. AT&T Yahoo! DSL is the merger of SBC Yahoo! DSL. Which would make AT&T Yahoo! only available in the 13-state region of SBC | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
1 edit | When they were separate companies, AT&T Worldnet DSL was a CLEC, and available in any ILEC territory, but SBC Yahoo! DSL Service was an ILEC offering, not available in any other ILEC territory.
Since the merger, SBC adopted the AT&T brand, but AT&T Worldnet and AT&T Yahoo! remain separate services, where "Worldnet" is still the CLEC service, and "Yahoo!" is still the ILEC service.
And now, to sort out another bunch of confusion I just created, "Yahoo!" is not an IP provider; that is what AT&T does. "Yahoo!" remains a separate company from AT&T, and just provides certain <AOL>Me Too!</AOL> services.
For clarity, the official name of the ILEC DSL service is:
"AT&T Yahoo! HSI"
This will only be available where AT&T is the ILEC telephone service provider. It is not available where Bellsouth, Embarq(are they an ILEC?), Qwest, and Verizon are the ILEC telephone providers. In those areas, the only AT&T DSL service is the CLEC service, "AT&T Worldnet DSL".
AT&T Worldnet only offers a single email domain, AFAIK: "@att.net". I know of no other email domains for AT&T Worldnet.
While new AT&T Yahoo! customers get the single email domain, "@sbcglobal.net", AT&T Yahoo! still maintains the legacy domains of customers from before the buyouts of several RBOCs, a regional telephone company, and an ISP:
ameritech.net (Ameritech, an RBOC)
nvbell.net (Pacific Telesis, an RBOC)
pacbell.net " "
swbell.net " "
snet.net (Southern New England Telephone, regional telephone company)
flash.net (Prodigy, an ISP)
prodigy.net "
wans.net "
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Oleg
Bellsouth Fastaccess
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join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL
1 edit | Re: AT&T Confirms New DSL Prices/Plans Ah now that's makes it clear. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
| Re: AT&T Confirms New DSL Prices/Plans Bellsouth Fastaccess? You live where Bellsouth is the ILEC? Presumably, pending regulatory approval of the AT&T-Bellsouth merger, AT&T will start converting the Bellsouth region over to AT&T Yahoo! HSI. Past history of SBC acquisitions suggest that the Bellsouth email domains (such as "@bellsouth.net") for legacy subscribers will remain intact.
Indeed, it is likely that the AT&T Yahoo! HSI service will be available as it is in the former SBC 13-state region. Nothing will change for legacy customers, unless they opt to migrate to AT&T Yahoo! HSI. These customers, both unmigrated, and migrated, will keep their legacy email domains. As AT&T Yahoo! HSI becomes the service for Bellsouth areas, new customers will be signed up in the "@sbcglobal.net" email domain. Unless a new, AT&T branded, domain is rolled out; in which case "@sbcglobal.net" will join the ranks of the legacy domains.
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Yes Embarq is an ILEC in many areas- mostly areas that the others won't touch. | |
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jtudor
Xm 60's On 6 Freak
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-07
Morganton, NC | Re: AT&T Confirms New DSL Prices/Plans Embarq is what used to be Sprint, and in some areas prior to that was Centel. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Re: AT&T Confirms New DSL Prices/Plans weren't they United Telephone or something like that before Sprint? | |
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join:2002-04-18
Statesville, NC
| Re: AT&T Confirms New DSL Prices/Plans Yes, they were United.
»www.embarq.com/companyinfo/history/
In some areas of Southwest Virginia they were known as United-Intermountain Telephone. Due to their charmingly unreliable service, they were usually called United Intermittent Telephone. | |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| Because they are different products.
Pre-merger AT&T DSL was resold Covad service.
Post-merger AT&T DSL is rebranded SBC DSL
You can still order the AT&T Covad product if you dig through the site to find the link...and in markets where AT&T is NOT the ILEC, they continue to resell Covad service. | |
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Thaler
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| Good Idea, But Not Enough Kudos to AT&T with finally making DSL more compeditive w/ cable in terms of contracts. (at least in our region, cable is contractless) The prices are reasonable as well. However, AT&Ts current shady history can't make me overlook these good dealmakers, and so I'd still stick with my current ISP, thanks. My security and privacy is easily worth an extra few dollars a month. | |
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Varlik
Without Honor You Will Never Be Free
Premium
join:2002-01-06
Anderson, SC | Re: Good Idea, But Not Enough IMO they didn't make anything more competitive. They did make them more enticing for folks who want to jump on board without a contract. And more enticing for those who manage to accept the deal without realizing that it's an introductory offer. | |
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Thaler
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| Re: Good Idea, But Not Enough said by Varlik :IMO they didn't make anything more competitive. They did make them more enticing for folks who want to jump on board without a contract. And more enticing for those who manage to accept the deal without realizing that it's an introductory offer. Well it's a start. True, it's yet again another introductory offer, but no contract can give you the leeway to jump ship to another ISP with better rates. I didn't say it was nirvana, but it's a definate improvement in allowing customers to stay mobile and find an ISP that is agreeable in terms of price and service provided. | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Sadly, the introductory offer has always been renewable. You are not grasping the fact that these rates are indefinite.
The second it's not renewable everyone will jump ship. | |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
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| It's A Start Now if these were regular prices and not introductory plans, I'd be impressed. I would be interested to know if AT&T was able to make a profit with these introductory prices. They should be able to when compared to the global industry and the size and scope of this conglomerate, but who really knows with today's woefully inefficient companies? | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
 ·AT&T Yahoo
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| Re: It's A Start In the past, when your contract expired, you could "re-up" for the lower price (as long as you committed to the contract again.)
However, now, with the ending of the contract, and the prices being "Introductory".... I wonder if the end result will be that when your contract expires you're going to get hit with a large price increase and no option to re-sign up.
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toadlife
Premium
join:2004-05-03
Lemoore, CA
| Re: It's A Start said by KrK :However, now, with the ending of the contract, and the prices being "Introductory".... I wonder if the end result will be that when your contract expires you're going to get hit with a large price increase and no option to re-sign up. I wonder this too. The result for me will be to move to another DSL provider (dslextreme/sonic). I almost did last time as the AT&T goons were giving me grief over renewing.
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| DslTrblShoot
join:2004-09-23
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Now if these were regular prices and not introductory plans, I'd be impressed.
Then color you impressed...These ARE NOT introductory offers. Read the Terms and conditions on www.sbc.com They do not state that after your term is up it will go up to xx amount after term is up. There is no mention of any rates going up. These are FLAT rate plans. The difference is 1 year term will give free equipment(after a rebate) and no term you will have to pay for your equipment. | |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FiOS
| Re: It's A Start said by DslTrblShoot : quote:
Now if these were regular prices and not introductory plans, I'd be impressed.
Then color you impressed...These ARE NOT introductory offers. Read the Terms and conditions on www.sbc.com They do not state that after your term is up it will go up to xx amount after term is up. There is no mention of any rates going up. These are FLAT rate plans. The difference is 1 year term will give free equipment(after a rebate) and no term you will have to pay for your equipment. Perfect, thanks for the information.  | |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | old prices? what were the old prices? | |
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Enlightener
join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX | Article Wrong The AT&T website says that that Basic package is 128K not 384K as this news article says. | |
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toadlife
Premium
join:2004-05-03
Lemoore, CA | Re: Article Wrong The article is simply quoting the top end of the speed range offered by the package. It's 128k-384k. It's determined by your line quality. As long as your line quality allows it, you will get 384k. | |
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join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX | Re: Article Wrong I would have thought that, except the web page shows the up for Basic as 128 and the up for express as 128-384. | |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| LIES! I thought the merger was supposed to create economies of scale resulting in reduced costs and greater product selection for the consumer!
It seems that the opposite is what's happening.
Raised prices...reduced investment in next gen technology...no competition!
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lordfly
join:2000-10-12
Homestead, FL | Gee, intro prices Okay, so that kills my comments in the previous thread about this. Ugh! What are the prices after the intro prices? | |
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jchambers106
join:2004-12-10
Kansas City, MO
1 edit |  who cares
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daveberstein
join:2002-07-15
New York, NY
| AT&T pr says you can get the new prices While the press release says "New residential AT&T Yahoo! High-Speed Internet customers only” spokesman Fletcher Cook tells me if you call you'll get the new rates.
Please do let me know (or post here) if you have any problems.
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs: | 768?
why are they offering 768 again? so cable can advertise another x2 faster than dsl with small print? | |
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| Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
| Re: 768? said by morbo :why are they offering 768 again? so cable can advertise another x2 faster than dsl with small print? to let people have dls that are to far to get 1.5 Mbps? | |
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zachw91
join:2005-05-10
Unionville, MI | hmmm Those prices Really suck compared to what they have now, and I don't think they should have a basic plan thats 768k. 1.5 is slow enough for basic dsl. | |
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join:2004-08-11
Edmond, OK | Re: hmmm I just called AT&T and they removed my contract. I just renewed about 3 months ago @ 24.99. So now I may leave at anytime if I feel the need. | |
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join:2002-07-14
Sherman Oaks, CA
1 edit | I renewed for 12 months @ 12.95 I renewed through a move order another 12 months at $12.95 for 1500kbs speed last week before the new, higher prices! | |
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ajtroglio
join:2000-04-20
Saint Louis, MO
| Re: I renewed for 12 months @ 12.95 I've been on month to month for the Pro package since June. Paying $36.99 per so I'll be calling tomorrow to request my rate REDUCTION....
To me the $24.99 is a fair price to pay for the DSL.
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rip34
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| hmmmm.... "simplified" and lower pricing introduced by at&t will catch on with other "near-monopoly" providers (cable & telcos)... definately would end the lack-of-love that existing charter customers get when their rates go up while new subs get the great (and time-limited) deals.
also.. no coincidence that at&t rolls out simplified pricing with a low end starting at just $15/mo right on the heels of aol's cut to $10/mo for dialup?!?!?! without at&t's new low-ball price, their dsl no longer compared favorably to the cost of aol (in the eyes of the average user), and at&t stood to lose ground in converting the casual internet user and 'undecided' to dsl.
this clearly shows that at&t's dsl prices were fixed based on the cost of aol's dialup service, and their new pricing is simply to keep the lowest-cost dsl at $5-10 more than dialup. and if this is the case, how far does this price fixing go? is the reason that my community has higher dsl and cable internet prices (compared to nearby areas) ONLY due to the fact that we do NOT have a local AOL dialup number and thus, no cut-rate dialup alternatives to compete against at the low end? | |
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Rob A
Jets AFC Championship
Premium
join:2005-01-17
Pompton Plains, NJ | Not bad but... | |
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@sbc.com | Re: Not bad but... there are no more contracts, the new lower prices will stay as long as these remain the rates, they aren't introductory rates. | |
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tommycat958
join:2006-10-05
Plano, TX
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paule123
join:2002-07-25
Cleveland, OH
1 edit | Unlike cable these packages are distance limited SBC happily sold me a Pro DSL package, but to date the copper to my house has only been able to support 2Mbps, not the promised 3Mbps. I expected better being only 4000 ft from the CO.
So be careful when you order their packages, make sure you can actually get what you're paying for. Unfortunately I don't think the CSR's at ATT are capable of determining that...
BTW, how are they able to provide 6Mbps with that tired old copper plant? Are those people getting VDSL equipment from select CO's, or is that available everywhere? | |
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| whymeintrouble
Premium
join:2001-06-20
Naperville, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: Unlike cable these packages are distance limited said by paule123 :SBC happily sold me a Pro DSL package, but to date the copper to my house has only been able to support 2Mbps, not the promised 3Mbps. if you read what the contract says, it gives ranges and not a guarantee, but a "best effort".
said by paule123 : I expected better being only 4000 ft from the CO. I agree!!
said by paule123 :BTW, how are they able to provide 6Mbps with that tired old copper plant? Are those people getting VDSL equipment from select CO's, or is that available everywhere? not that i'm aware of. but the distance to the CO has to be very short if I remember correctly. | |
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