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| Competition is good. I am not a big supporter of the original evdo service but revision A should address some of the problems. Even though I had good speeds according to verizon my ping was slow and i really could not stream at all. I went over the 5 gig a month rule but never received a letter. I like verizon way better than sprint so this competition is good. Verizon's weakness was they didn't want you to tether originally, and the higher costs. When it comes to network upgrades ALREADY even though they just released evdo service not that long ago will push verizon to keep up. This just proves that competition is good for the consumer and breeds innovation, and ultimately the consumer gets a better product. -- www.LakeSemaJ.com | |
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@rr.com | Re: Competition is good. Unlimited has different meanings... what exactly are they offering? Unlimited Data or unlimited airtime to access the data network. I think this is where the confusion arises. | |
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@144.226.x.x | Re: Competition is good. Sprint offer is Unlimited data and unlimited airtime. Sprint is the way to go. | |
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 |   jgkolt Premium join:2004-02-21 Lakewood, OH clubs: 1 edit | Re: Good for them Well hearing that Sprint maintains only the 1900 frequency what does Verizon maintain? -- www.LakeSemaJ.com | |
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| Re: Good for them Quoted from the article posted on BBR.
"Verizon has offered no timetable for their Revision A upgrade plans. The company is facing a longer timeline than Sprint due to the fact that more than 50% of its network consists of 800mhz towers already feeling network strain (compared to Sprint's full array of 1900mhz towers)."
Not to come off as a wise ass or anything, but it is right there.... -- Never ask what sort of a computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If not, why embarrass him? -Tom Clancy | |
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join:2006-02-27 Benton, AR | Re: Good for them ok could I buy some sort of adapter to hook this up to my home desktop and use this for internet access vs dial up or satalite. Wild blue is not selling in our area due to overloading or what not right now and no dsl or cable | |
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join:2006-02-27 Benton, AR | Re: Good for them so was the poast deleted due to telling me how to do it or was there an a hole being a jerk. Still curious to know if ther is anyway to use this on a desktop? | |
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| Re: Good for them There are wireless modems/routers now that you pop an evdo card into and you can support 1-5 users or desktop, laptop etc, you should check your coverage first, then research, Linksys, Junxion, Airlink routers to see if this is what you need - is definitely supported by Sprint if the wireless coverage is there  | |
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@144.226.x.x | Hey,
There will be a Linksys router hitting the market shortly that will allow you to plug the air card in the top and allow you to access the internet. I think it will have up to five ports on the back. | |
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1 edit | said by shoan :ok could I buy some sort of adapter to hook this up to my home desktop and use this for internet access vs dial up or satalite. Wild blue is not selling in our area due to overloading or what not right now and no dsl or cable Sure it can be done. But it would be a costly option if you use the connection very much. Sprint would be a better deal than Verizon. But you should check the coverage maps linked in the BBR story to see if your zip code is even covered for wireless broadband. -- -- Join Red Room Forum BLOG tkjunkmail.blogspot.com My Web Page | |
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| Re: Good for them we are covered by their wireless broadband but would you think it is really that costly when I only have the choice of 24.4 k dial up and hugesnet sat internet. Seems like about 80 dollars a month would not be that bad if my only other choice would be around the same price with a sat. going with sprint of course | |
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| Re: Good for them said by shoan :we are covered by their wireless broadband but would you think it is really that costly when I only have the choice of 24.4 k dial up and hugesnet sat internet. Seems like about 80 dollars a month would not be that bad if my only other choice would be around the same price with a sat. going with sprint of course That depends on how much you use it. If Sprint and they don't cap you, you could use quite a lot of bandwidth. If Verizon, you'd have to make sure you followed their terms of service and weren't using it to stream music or videos, etc. or they could drop you. The cost is reasonable if it fulfills your requirements and you can afford it. -- -- Join Red Room Forum BLOG tkjunkmail.blogspot.com My Web Page | |
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join:2006-02-27 Benton, AR | Re: Good for them my main use is playing World of Warcraft and watching the occasional goofy you tube video or break video other than that just basic surfing. | |
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| Sprint now has phones that connect to computer via USB and it will give you EVDO speeds. The new 7130E blackberry and the new 700 Treos have this capability. When you have the unlimited plan for wireless it comes out inexpensive since you can use the phone as well. | |
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| said by shoan :ok could I buy some sort of adapter to hook this up to my home desktop and use this for internet access vs dial up or satalite. All you need is a PCI PC Card adapter ($20 or so)...
-SC -- "it seems like all you ever buy is Abercrombie and cell phones" --a friend | |
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| said by shoan :ok could I buy some sort of adapter to hook this up to my home desktop and use this for internet access vs dial up or satalite. Wild blue is not selling in our area due to overloading or what not right now and no dsl or cable Sprint is coming out with a EVDO Rev A USB Modem soon. This thing will work on a Desktop pc,tablet,notebook,UMPC,or anything else with a USB port.
»www.evdoinfo.com/EVDO_Products/P···0920827/ -- The adventure continues......2006 so far- Switzerland,Oahu,Macau,Hong Kong,Rome,Maui.........Dec 06- Delhi,India...Dubai..Iran....Rio de Janeiro.... | |
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| Re: Good for them 850/1900 are frequencies licensed for cellular (850) and pcs (1900) communications. Both are used for voice and data.
Here's a overview »tk.com/wireless/800cell.html »tk.com/wireless/1900pcs.html
And here's an older breakdown »www.wirelesswavelength.com/
The issue with 850 MHz band is total amount of spectrum 850 there's 'only' 12.5 MHz base/12.5MHz mobile on A and B licenses. Those that currently have 850 MHz licenses MUST use a portion for Analog service, as required by FCC.
1900 there's 'only' 65 MHz base/65MHz mobile.
Eg. having an 850 MHz license + 10 MHz of PCS is not always as manageable as having the same amount all in the same band. Having to run analog service + having to slice up the spectrum doesn't always work well.
Eg. 35 MHz of PCS on something such as PCS will make 35 MHz of evenly distributed spectrum. Breaking it up into 25 MHz of 850 and another 10 MHz of PCS doesn't work quite as nice.
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| said by N3OGH :Quoted from the article posted on BBR. "Verizon has offered no timetable for their Revision A upgrade plans. The company is facing a longer timeline than Sprint due to the fact that more than 50% of its network consists of 800mhz towers already feeling network strain (compared to Sprint's full array of 1900mhz towers)." Not to come off as a wise ass or anything, but it is right there.... No time table as in no date established (Like October 2007 or something) I guess you missed that  | |
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@verizonwireless.com | The real question is, Is Sprint sharing that 1900mhz bandwidth with voice and data? If that's the case, then wei'll see how long it is before that network shuts down. | |
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| The laws of physics, with regard to radio signals, dictate that the lower frequency will provide better coverage in areas where there are terrain obstructions. My 850 coverage is acceptable here in the hills of CT, but the 1900 coverage is strictly wherever a cell tower is visible. If I can't see the tower, the phone shows no service. | |
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join:2005-06-17 Lansing, MI | Re: Who is getting 150ms now? I've been getting 150-200ms on sprints evdo for quite a while. | |
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join:2004-01-06 Amissville, VA | Re: Who is getting 150ms now? I consistently get sub 300ms on 1xrtt. Sub 200ms in ideal conditions. -- Hail To The Redskins | |
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join:2005-06-17 Lansing, MI | I'd guess it has something to do with living in NYC | |
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| Re: Who is getting 150ms now? said by iNFEKT :I'd guess it has something to do with living in NYC I guess so, however I have used it in NYC, Boston, LA, Miami, Dallas, Denver, and San Diego with the same results. Actually, I was getting 900ms+ on some tests with Verizon in LA! -- я люблю медведей! | |
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  Michieru2 zzz zzz zzz Premium join:2005-01-28 Miami, FL
| ! Good, but I still expect more from Sprint although I am not a investor I still listen to there conferences to see of any new information I can get my hands on. But not only that the investors seem to be asking most of the questions that people ask here on BBR and the CEO is responding with these solutions and they are actually doing something about it.
So is Sprint's decisions influenced by smart investors? Most likely but there just a piece of the puzzle. Sprint said they will be bringing more choices and this is what they mean by that.
Verizon is seeing things heat up in the Wireless arena and they are going to respond back with new things as well. But Sprint has the upper hand because of all the spectrum they own and all the latest gear. So there in a better position than Verizon is at this point but Verizon has cash to throw around and they can catch up I am sure.
Not only that Sprint-Nextel has the government on there side and there biggest buyer, so they also have a steady cash flow. The battle between Verizon and Sprint is going to be fierce. Cingular seems to be still slowly entering in the game, they have the most customers though so they have cash to throw around. I just hope that this trend continues because this might be the start of a wireless market boom.
Maybe companies are finally realizing that it's easier to simply install one cell site in an area that covers a good 4-8 miles radius where they can not only provide voice but broadband services as well instead of wasting money laying phone line or copper wiring all over the place.
But Verizon seems to be stuck in FIOS which is a good thing I assume since they know everyone want's to market wireless broadband as the next big thing if there is not a big migration towards it they will have control of all the landline market. Cable is the only competitor here for FIOS but they need to get those network upgrades and increase speeds.
If this pace continues for let's say a decade we won't be as far as behind on the broadband market as we thought we would be. I think the big guys got the picture but don't expect it to be cheap. The network is there but you have to pay up for higher prices. Unless competition stays put then we would see a decrease in prices across the board while the telco's might begin to eliminate POTS.
In short it's time to move on. | |
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