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Virginia group works toward fiber in New River Valley
(old news - 05:30PM Saturday Sep 16 2006)
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The New River Valley Planning District Commission Telecommunications Committee is set to begin the grant process to bring fiber and greater broadband access to its residents. The initial grant application, $400,000 from the Appalachian Regional Commission will go out next week, is the beginning of phase one in the three phase project. Additional funding will be sought from the U.S. Economic Development Administration, the Commonwealth of Virgina, and private investors. The first phase of the planned 283-mile network in Western Virgina would see 36 miles of fiber from the Wythe County line through Pulaski County.

Over 74,000 shares in the project will be sold to towns and counties in Virginia's First Authority. The shares allow the holder to be part of the process in the participation committee. Virgina law allows multiple localities to invest in and derive revenue from economic development projects. One source of revenue will be leasing the fiber to existing broadband providers. The justification for governmental investment in such a system, according to Dave Rundgren, the commission's executive director, is to help create an infrastructure to help businesses do business. "This is like the interstate highway. It's not like your driveway," he said.

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Fatal Vector

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Seems to me



this is a better way to go about things than indicidual muni projects.
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Re: Seems to me

said by Fatal Vector See Profile :

this is a better way to go about things than indicidual muni projects.
This should be done for the entire U.S. At the rate things are going, some rural and municipal areas (this Virginia project, UTOPIA, etc.) are going to have better broadband service than most major metropolitan areas.

What a clusterf* broadband in the U.S. has become.
Doom3654

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Re: Seems to me

i say good for them. its about time some of us "hillbillys" get some broadband attention
Light Guy

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September 17th, @09:19AM

Not so sure

After looking at the population of these counties, I`m not so sure this is such a great idea. Just the practicality of fibering these 2 counties that have a total population under 65,000 for an area of almost 800 square miles.
They would probably have to continue to subsidise the project to keep it going. What company is going to want to lease the lines in such a rural area? Do these people really want it and can they afford it.
I say ask the people what they would rather have: subsidised fiber optics or health care.
$400,000 is just the tip of the iceberg of the millions they want to spend.
The statement: "Rundgren said the justification for governmental investment in such a system is to help create an infrastructure to help businesses do business." makes it clear who this investment is targeted at.
Edit: incorrect math

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Re: Not so sure

said by Light Guy See Profile :

I say ask the people what they would rather have: subsidised fiber optics or health care.
$400,000 divided by 65,000 people = over $6,000 per person.
They may rather have health care. But your math is off. $400,000/65,000 = $6.15/person (NOT $6,000/person)

You don't get much healthcare for $6.15/person.
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Re: Not so sure

That had to hurt TK, knowing that you don't always feel warm and fuzzy about municipal broadband.

So in the interest of fair play:
The article states that $400,000 is just part of the funding. The Co-op hopes to raise a total of $2,626,000 for 36 miles of a proposed 283 mile network.

So that 36 miles would cost $40.40 per resident in the two counties. Sticking with the health-care comparison, that's less than my co-pay when I visit the ER.
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Re: Not so sure

said by mr sean See Profile :

That had to hurt TK, knowing that you don't always feel warm and fuzzy about municipal broadband.

So in the interest of fair play:
The article states that $400,000 is just part of the funding. The Co-op hopes to raise a total of $2,626,000 for 36 miles of a proposed 283 mile network.

So that 36 miles would cost $40.40 per resident in the two counties. Sticking with the health-care comparison, that's less than my co-pay when I visit the ER.
Sounds like B.S. to me. Verizon has gotten the cost down to about $900 per house passed. That does not count installation to each building. My guess is that is only the cost to run the cable. The nodes and splicing will be extra.

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Rundgren said the justification for governmental investment in such a system is to help create an infrastructure to help businesses do business.
I hope you members of the great unwashed don't think this will benefit you. You are going to pay for it with $2,000,000.00 in government hand outs, that is tax money for those of you that don't pay tax. 1/2 million will come from investors, investors want to make money on their investments. The people that want to connect to the network will have to buy one of the 74,000 shares that will be sold. A price was not given for the cost of a share. Verizon is installing FIOS for free. Not in my CO yet darn.

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The first phase would see 36 miles of broadband fiber from the Wythe County line through Pulaski County, including the towns of Pulaski and Dublin, to Christiansburg at the intersection of Virginia 114 and U.S. 460.

It would connect public schools, governmental administrative facilities, industrial parks, schools, New River Community College, the western campus of Radford University and the New River Valley Regional Jail. It would also be the start of a governmental network and provide access to businesses along the route.
If you are not the government or a fat cat business you are going to get squat. No one cares about the great unwashed, you don't have more then $40 a month to pay and that isn't going to cut it.

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September 16th, @08:38PM

For all the telco law suits to start. Wonder how long it will take?
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Re: Just waiting now

said by ropeguru See Profile :

For all the telco law suits to start. Wonder how long it will take?
Shouldn't take too long.
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Its about time for SWVA to get in on the bandwagon. Being from SWVA, I know what it was like seeing broadband being rolled out in bigger metropolitan areas and leaving us with "when are we gonna get it?" It about time some funds are invested in my part of the state. As for health care, The New River Valley has an excellent hospital. For towns such as Radford and Pulaski, fiber will be a big step forward for those folks and their governments. Being increasingly starved of agricultural and economic funding because of Northern Virginia's greed. Its nice to see a large scale economic opportunity come this part of VA.
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