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| Re: / /()\ \ Ive been cantennaing off of 3 neighbors routers all year now. I get 30gigs a day of movie goodness including all of schawtzies T flicks. Its great. I have over 9300 movie files and 6500 Tv episodes. I ran out of drive letters so I have multiple pc's storing what I collectively call mini block buster video. 29.95/month is a pittance for my own access but I mooch for solely one reason. Deep pocket bastards are filing extortion lawsuits perverting the system with no intention of actually going to court. Fine, I dont have a conscience either so I respond by perverting the equipment use to evade their detection. They may catch the neighbors but na na na na na, they'll never catch me. And extorting innocent neighbors will be more bad press for them as I continue to help keep P2P strong and proud. | |
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| I posted a comment here yesterday but it was never added for display. I guess the nazi sencors have finally invaded this site. So much for free speach and ideas...
Mod Note If the grammar and spelling were as atrocious as in this one, I can understand why it never saw the light of day. If the post was just a rant and didn't add to the discussion, it probably went bye-bye also. As for nazi sencors (sic) and free speach (sic), read the site rules, Constitution doesn't apply to private endeavors, that prohibition is only placed against the Government, not individuals. Please learn how the Constitution is applied in real life? And in reality, I know of no mod here who is a member of the Nazi party - got some ACLU junkies hanging around, but no real Nazis.
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| Re: / /()\ \ The government can be trusted to protect it self, and has the tax payers money to continue its fight in the courts until the law is passed. even if the law in not to its favor we will ignore it anyway. Bush holds the trump card on the law according to wire tapping etc. | |
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Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
| Useless as "Chemicals Known to the State of CA" Stickers Heh... every time I am in CA I see these stickers that say something like "Chemicals known to the State of California are in this and they will cause cancer and kill you." This approach reminds me of that. I am sure just like the cancer stickers, this new sticker will be equally useless 
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| Re: Useless as "Chemicals Known to the State of CA" Stickers More government bull crap to try and protect stupid people from themselves. Its due to this kind of mentality that we have more and more stupid people. We have put government fail-safes in place that have circumvented Darwin's selective evolution process. Whats the old saying, make something idiot proof and the government will build a better idiot  | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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| Re: Useless as "Chemicals Known to the State of CA" Stickers said by Subaru  :LOL that sticker that says "this product is KNOWN to the state of California to cause Cancer" <bad joke>
Just use the product outside of CA and you will be fine!
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| Re: Useless as "Chemicals Known to the State of CA" Stickers said by pnh102 :said by Subaru :LOL that sticker that says "this product is KNOWN to the state of California to cause Cancer" <bad joke> Just use the product outside of CA and you will be fine! </bad joke> haha I guess it's too much of a hassle just to use those Printed lables and target them just for CA only.
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Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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| Re: Useless as "Chemicals Known to the State of CA" Stickers said by Subaru :haha I guess it's too much of a hassle just to use those Printed lables and target them just for CA only. I suppose its just as problematic for food package labelers to put those silly "Registered with the Penna. Department of Agriculture" labels on everything we eat.
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| Re: Useless as "Chemicals Known to the State of CA" Stickers said by pnh102 :said by Subaru :haha I guess it's too much of a hassle just to use those Printed lables and target them just for CA only. I suppose its just as problematic for food package labelers to put those silly "Registered with the Penna. Department of Agriculture" labels on everything we eat. Heh I can see something like all these states will say this and that about the food and it's going to be covered all in sticker :-/ Or some 6 Inch long sticker of what each state thinks might be bad.
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join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN
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| Receiving transmissions Is there not a federal law that says citizens are allowed to receive any transmission. I have heard this argument be used in stated where radar detectors are illegal. People would try and use the fed law to get around state laws. If that is true then I can receive any wifi I want as long as I don't crack or decrypt. | |
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Will it all be Obama's fault now?
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Philly burbs
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| Re: Receiving transmissions said by ossito16 :Is there not a federal law that says citizens are allowed to receive any transmission. I'm pretty sure it's against Federal law to listen to listen to cell phone conversations, so that would put a hole in the "allowed to receive any transmission" theory.
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Everybody Lies
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Franklin, TN
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| Re: Receiving transmissions said by N3OGH :said by ossito16 :Is there not a federal law that says citizens are allowed to receive any transmission. I'm pretty sure it's against Federal law to listen to listen to cell phone conversations, so that would put a hole in the "allowed to receive any transmission" theory. It's not illegal to listen to cell phones, only to record them for anything but personal use. If I record your cell phone conversation and then through it up on youtube then I'm in trouble. If I record your cell phone conversation for a personal chuckle at home, well then I'm just a strange person. | |
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My views are my own.
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| Re: Receiving transmissions in other words, if you record it to distribute it, it's bad. If you record it for your self, it's ok? Or you should have said "as long as I don't get discovered"...
Recording as a 3rd party is wire tappings period.. no matter how you justify it. All states have at least a 1 part rule, about 10 or less have the 2-party rule. NONE have a 3rd party rule.
Tapping into conversations AND "recording" them 'for any purpose' is a ticket to being bubba's wife.
According to your post, it's ok as long as you don't get caught.
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ME
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Toledo, OH
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| Re: Receiving transmissions In Ohio its legal for you to record any phone convo you want as long as ONE party on the phone knows. So basically I could be talking to you and 2 other people on the phone, and as long as I would know (duh) I could record your convo under Ohio law. And in Ohio it protects me. Nothing else you could do- under our laws. | |
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My views are my own.
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Elf Wizard
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| you can receive any radio transmission you want no law can stop you. weather or not the transmission is of any use is another story(most digital cell calls have some encryption, usless without the two phones making the said call).
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join:2002-10-01
Anchorage, AK | Yes, that law exists. The problem comes when you have to send a signal back to the router in order to request a page. That's where you cross the line between receiving and accessing.
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R4M0N
Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
join:2000-10-04
Glen Allen, VA
·Comcast
| It's this type of law Along with extremely liberal judges, that have contributed to this lawsuit-happy society we have today. You put stickers telling people the most stupidly common-sensical things and they become dependent on the government to tell them what's good or bad. Then they sue when the hot coffe burns them because there wasn't a label saying hot things burn.
Next thing you know, someone will sue because the wireless router didn't have a label saying their radio signal can be picked up by the neighbor's antenna too. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: It's this type of law said by R4M0N :Along with extremely liberal judges, that have contributed to this lawsuit-happy society we have today. You put stickers telling people the most stupidly common-sensical things and they become dependent on the government to tell them what's good or bad. Then they sue when the hot coffe burns them because there wasn't a label saying hot things burn. Quit with the liberal crap. Conservative judges have equally ruined this country. More conservative judges out there anyways. Federal judges are appointed by the president. A republican has been president 25 out of the last 37 years. Besides Arnold is a REPUBLICAN too. | |
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Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
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Glen Allen, VA
·Comcast
| Re: It's this type of law said by user=BF69 :
Quit with the liberal crap. Conservative judges have equally ruined this country. More conservative judges out there anyways. Federal judges are appointed by the president. A republican has been president 25 out of the last 37 years. Besides Arnold is a REPUBLICAN too.
Easy there, sport. Is it liberalism or Conservatism that advocates everyone is entitled to everything and nothing is your fault?
I made a point to use "Extremely" because a balance of liberalism and conservatism is always good, but extremes are not.
Conservative judges certainly have ruined this country too, but not on this issue. When an article comes up about how someone can't watch porn in their own home because conservative judges ruled it's illegal, then we can talk about how they ruined this country. For now, let's stick to the issue at hand. | |
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My views are my own.
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| Re: It's this type of law When did this become a liberal vs. conservative issue?
"Conservative judges certainly have ruined this country too, but not on this issue. When an article comes up about how someone can't watch porn in their own home because conservative judges ruled it's illegal, then we can talk about how they ruined this country."
.. and with this, I give you Alberto G, the AG. Shall I bring up U.S. 2257? The 'let's cleanse this nation of porn' act? Conservatives are most certainly trying to rid this nation of porn in all apsects including your homes. So, let's not get started.
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Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
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Glen Allen, VA | Re: It's this type of law This thread is not about porn laws... | |
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My views are my own.
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| Re: It's this type of law Sorry, I wasn't aware you were a moderator...
"When an article comes up about how someone can't watch porn in their own home because conservative judges ruled it's illegal.."
then maybe you should shut up about it too then eh? Don't stick in an opinion dig unless you want to be called on it. | |
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R4M0N
Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
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Glen Allen, VA | Re: It's this type of law I don't see an article about it... just your post.
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My views are my own.
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| Re: It's this type of law Oh, forgive me.. .I was just quoting you and responding to it.
There is a message thread, you know,.. it's easy to refer to it incase you forgot.
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Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
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Glen Allen, VA | Re: It's this type of law Nevermind... Reading and comprehension is clearly not your forte. | |
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| Re: It's this type of law said by R4M0N :Nevermind... Reading and comprehension is clearly not your forte. What is wrong with you? You are the one who brought up porn, he responded to you and then you jump on him for talking about porn. Pot - Kettle, methinks? | |
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Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
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| Re: It's this type of law said by bcunningh :said by R4M0N :Nevermind... Reading and comprehension is clearly not your forte. What is wrong with you? You are the one who brought up porn, he responded to you and then you jump on him for talking about porn. Pot - Kettle, methinks? I said we'd discuss how conservatives judges are destroying this country when a news article about porn was posted on the front page. Geez, what's wrong with you people?  | |
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Go For It
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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| 99%... ... of the people leeching couldn't care less about what the owner's computer has on it or what it is doing.
*MOST* are just looking for a free ride to IM, check email, surf porn, whatever.
If I were to open up my router, you'd have to work pretty hard to get in my laptops, but you could go hit MySpace with ease.
I'm paying for my bandwidth, I want all of it for me!
This is why I have taken a few SIMPLE steps to more or less ensure the casual wardriver cannot connect.
No offense, but f*** a sticker! LOL!
Maybe if they apply the sticker over the power plug or a WAN port it would catch a few people's attention... MAYBE!
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Not My Self Today
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| California Knows What is Good for You -- Right As it has been shown that stress causes heart attack and it also has been shown that California can cause it's citizens stress then it is only appropriate that a warning label be applied to all laws, speeches and other crap from California stating that it can cause stress and should be controlled.
WARNING: IT IS KNOWN IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA CAN CAUSE HARM AND DEATH DUE TO THE STRESS THAT IT CREATES FOR IT'S CITIZENS AND THOSE OF THE OTHER 49 STATES. IGNORE AND AVOID. | |
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Eatontown, NJ | Re: why the fuss over free wifi? Because there are terrible people out there wishing to eat your lunch. | |
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Keeping an open connection is the friendly, neighborly thing to do. | |
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GoodyearMark
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Goodyear, AZ | hmm As long as they're gonna put stickers on routers, how about stickers on computers with Windows pre-installed saying "Get a brain before using"? | |
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Go For It
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Hercules, CA | Re: hmm What does Windows have to do with this?
Macs can get fried just as bad as a Windows machine by clueless wonder...
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New York, NY | Re: hmm Both Macs and PCs come with preinstalled cup holders. | |
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| This what i have in the day Mine is the only one i get in the day time.But at night i get 3 of them that is not locked down i even told the guy up from me to set it right a week ago and still he is wide open. | |
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join:2000-12-23
Greenwood, IN | Simple Question? Why don't WiFi vendors do what some DSL/Cable providers do, and lock the unit down with a password out of the box, and have that password written on the unit? Seems like an easy solution to me, and it doesn't require the Government to get involved. | |
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Bill
Light Up The Halo
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clubs: | Re: Simple Question? Because some users aren't smart enough to setup WEP/WPA on the client end. | |
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gatzdon
join:2002-10-25
Lake Zurich, IL
| Man you people don't get it. This law is an outdated law from the World War II error prohibiting the rape of the people trying to crack the german/japanese encryption.
"prohibit the intentional access to a computer without authorization."
the term computer is just outdated and that is why it doesn't make sense. Further reading can be found on Wikipedia
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Formerly jnethostman
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Bakersfield, CA | God I think that if you buy a router, you should be able, to know how to control it. It is stupid, this bill. | |
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join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
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| Re: God Well, I think that would really cut down on sales.
But this could be compared to a lot of things...
Some people buy cars yet never change the oil, ever.
Some people buy alarm systems yet never arm it.
Anti virus, never updated.
Computer never backed up, wonder why they loose all there "stuff".
Some people buy guns, accidentally shoot others.
Etc etc...
As far as the sticker, California has always been able to put a smile on my face with the dumbest "rules" I have seen. If they could take your child away and raise them the "proper way" they would. California politicians seem to score points by looking like they are somehow making you more safe. No other state would this actually fly. | |
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join:2006-07-15
Cordova, TN
| I love this Law Happy Nation Seriously ever thing that's been going on lately is really crazy. I would love....just love it they made you get a licence to own a computer. Seriously it would make life a lot easier. there would be less stupid shit on the internet, less virus and all that because people with computers would have some basic knowledge and it would get nipped in the butt. but on the other hand its just the government limiting the way you can potentially hurt yourself.. in 10 years you wont be able to smack yourself in the forehead with out breaking a law | |
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join:2006-08-31 | Re: I love this Law Happy Nation not sure if anyone mentioned this, but many do use the default settings for the password. for example my neighbors is password protected - admin is the password. I told her about it and she didn't think her WAN was available outside of her home | |
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zzz zzz zzz
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL | ..why? How about disabling the "no security" feature and where you must choose either WEP or some other form of encryption like WPA/WPA2 etc.
A sticker does not do jack shit unless you read it. | |
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join:2002-04-23
Murrells Inlet, SC
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| Re: ..why? Provided it's written in YOUR language. SP,FR,ENG......
If the manufacturer were to design the installation software so it would pre-set all the functions in your PC and all you need to do is find the "Enter Key" it might help.
When it was finished it would say-"HERE'S YOUR SIGN".
We who frequent this and other tech type forums know what's up, but have you any idea how many PC owners have NO CLUE as to how their PC works.
There are people who own and use Hughes Satellite Dish Internet and have no clue as to what satellite or transponder they are on, nor any other pertenent info about their system.
The average PC owner knows what to click to IM or email and how to get to EBay and the home Shopping Network. THATS IT.
This technology is way above the average users head. YES,WAY.
If you give an idiot a choice, what's he/she going to do.
DAAAAAAAAH.
They can stick the stickers AND their pickers.
Why don't they put the instructions in BRAIL for the blind too?
YOU HAVE BRAILLE. ENTER YOUR YAHOO LOGIN TO READ YOUR BRAILLE.
ONLY APPLICABLE TO TOUCH SCREEN TERMINALS LOADED WITH BRAILLE SOFTWARE. | |
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zzz zzz zzz
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| Re: ..why? Linksys and Belkin have had those setup CD's for a while which enabled security during the install. It just goes to show how pointless it is to teach a moronic son of a bitch how to setup something when he is not even willing to learn.
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join:2001-01-17
San Antonio, TX
| The Right Analogy for Wireless Signal Spill John Dvorak wrote a piece in PC Mag last year that I think is right on the mark. Unfortunately, most of our lawmakers believe otherwise.
»www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1842378,00.asp | |
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