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(old news - 08:44AM Thursday Aug 17 2006)
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As expected, Boeing has grounded its Connexion in-flight broadband service, and as a result will eat roughly $320 million in charges the second half of this year. Connexion's death was aided greatly by the poor shape of the U.S. airline industry, which couldn't afford to retrofit planes in order to offer the service. Boeing's Connexion operation employed 560 people, some of whom could be laid off, according to the company.

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pnh102
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Odd...

You'd think at least one airline would have taken the plunge just for the higher-paying business customers at least.
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Re: Odd...

Considering the major US carriers can't even afford to offer pillows or repair anything other than critical flight and safety components, I doubt spending money on in-flight broadband is high on their list, nor should it be if they want to survive. Of course I would argue that they should be allowed to fail or at least restructure into viable going concerns instead of the corporate dinosaurs they are now.

Even though everyone on a plane has a mobile phone and waits until the door closes to turn it off and turns it back on as soon as the door opens, those in-flight phones have yet to pay for themselves

Not to mention, unless you're in business / 1st class or an exit row, most people don't have enough room to open a laptop anyway.

The fact is, between blackberries, wireless internet and mobile phones, being on a plane is almost the only time I have to myself anymore with no excuses otherwise.
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Re: Odd...

said by Blasterbator See Profile :

Even though everyone on a plane has a mobile phone and waits until the door closes to turn it off and turns it back on as soon as the door opens, those in-flight phones have yet to pay for themselves
I've nosticed as soon as it lands and as soon as it says Cell Phones are............

Someone is already has a Phone up to the ear.

Fkkn Jam that Cell Signal!
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August 17th, @01:56PM

Re: Odd...

Ever since 9/11, people are using their cell phones as soon as the landing gear hits the pavement.

Some calls are justified to me because I've done similar.

1. Theoretically planes land when the schedule says so, but reality is a different matter. I call as soon as the wheels are down so that my relative can pick me up. By the time I get my bags, they are just arriving. That way I am not waiting and they are not driving in circles for what may seem hours. Totally practical.

2. Have seen similar to above for work related pick-ups and rental cars.

3. Have seen/heard lots of cells that are ringing, but not for incoming calls, but for voice mail. They have same ring for voice calls as voice mail. Makes it sound like the whole plane is ringing, but really actually getting voice mail alerts.

4. Some are calling just to tell mom that they made it. Now whose mom has not asked, "just give me a call so that I can stop worrying". Sometimes it is just easier to make the obligatory call, and be done.

I am still all for keeping phone ban on planes once the doors are shut.
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Well...with the direction we're headed with the TSA's rules...I do see a day when electronics could very well be banned from carry-on. It might be several years, but I wouldn't say they'd never ban such things. If I were an airline exec, I wouldn't gamble on that. It would be a waste of money. And, unless it's free, most people wouldn't use it. Almost no one uses AirFone because it's too expensive for anyone other than "business/first class" customers who have no restrictions on their expenses.

pnh102
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Re: Odd...

said by jc1350 See Profile :

Well...with the direction we're headed with the TSA's rules...I do see a day when electronics could very well be banned from carry-on.
Heh... no wonder its getting more convenient to just drive to a business destination or take a train (at least for reasonable distances).
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Re: Odd...

said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by jc1350 See Profile :

Well...with the direction we're headed with the TSA's rules...I do see a day when electronics could very well be banned from carry-on.
Heh... no wonder its getting more convenient to just drive to a business destination or take a train (at least for reasonable distances).
Personally if the destination is within a one days drive (~10 hours), I'll take the car. No body cavity searches involved with that mode of transportation (yet) plus you can carry all your stuff and have your own wheels.
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Re: Odd...

I would drive in a heart beat if I would get some kind of real stipend.

Right now it is cheaper to fly for my company than to pay for driving. I can get a round trip ticket on Southwest for what it would cost (apx 33 cents mile) to drive. So I get to fly discount carriers.
Kearnstd
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many businessmen dont want to have any connections on the plane. the plane is a rare chance for them to have no computer, cellphone or blackberry hounding them.
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I remember reading that one of the airlines (Cathay Pacific IIRC) that they're looking at installing internet access (terminals?) for the business class people. I would think that's a great idea for doing business. Now with the new rules this would become more useful if it comes with a terminal, so there's no laptop required to use the service.
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Too expensive

And not on any fights I was on anyway. Besides, trying to use a PC in COACH is a bit uncomfortable, especially if you are aisle seating like I prefer and the two people on the inside want to get up.
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the war on terror takes another victum

lol thinking they are banning electronics and bottled liquids guess this was doomed since the terror of 9/11 and related air plane events
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People Kill People

In its latest airline security restriction, the FAA has banned all people from flights.
WEB-EXCLUSIVE SATIRE
By Andy Borowitz
Special to Newsweek

Updated: 10:31 a.m. PT Aug 15, 2006

Aug. 15, 2006 - In a move aimed at further tightening airport security, the Federal Aviation Administration announced today that it would ban all people from flights leaving or entering the United States, effective immediately.

The FAA, which has in the past banned such objects as toenail clippers and hair gel, took the extraordinary step of banning people after the Department of Homeland Security conducted a thorough investigation of previous terror plots.

"We looked at terror plots of the past, and in each and every case, people were involved," said Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff at a Washington press briefing. "These new rules send the strong message that the FAA has zero tolerance for people."

Chertoff said that while banning liquids from flights was a constructive step, the only true solution was to ban people altogether. "Let's face it, hair gel doesn't kill people," he said. "People kill people."

The Homeland Security secretary acknowledged that the new rules would curtail Americans' ability to travel, but added, "On the plus side, that will make them easier for us to spy on."

The FAA's ban on people onboard flights raised questions for the nation's airlines, which must now ponder what, if anything, their airplanes will be carrying.

But Davis Logsdon, who studies the airline industry at the University of Minnesota, said that the FAA's crackdown on people could be a "win-win" for the airlines: "Maybe if the airlines don't have people to worry about, they can finally concentrate on getting our luggage to the right destination."

Elsewhere, Al Qaeda disavowed responsibility for a terror plot to make Americans' laptops burst into flames, blaming it instead on Dell.

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Re: People Kill People

Well all people are full of foul liquids and gases and they can also spontaneously combust or explode at anytime so I would have to agree with this new FAA ban on people aboard anything that flies in the unfriendly skies! No more beer or other alcohol containing drinks are allowed on planes either!
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August 17th, @12:35PM

stuff

I knew this would go no place from the start, always wondered wtf they were thinking, no one flying wants to do this unless it is a free. Complete waste of money.

Anonuser

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If it would have been reasonably priced, I would have used it, but.... just too expencive for only geting to use it for 2 hr flight, especially since their was no place to plug in a laptop!
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Oh Well

I guess its a loss, but even when I first heard about the program I don't think I ever saw it going anywhere. I just hope and pray that people will never be able to use their cell phones during flight. That is the day I dread and I know that it will get here sooner or later. Flights are annoying enough already, I surely don't need someone next to me talking to their best friend about the awful date they had the night before or how constipated they are.

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Well this has to suck for Level3

Who was supplying the ground based loop for the service. Actually it was Wiltel but Level3 bought them.
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Re: Well this has to suck for Level3

Singapore Airlines has onboard wifi. A flight to Sinagpore will cost you $25 for access or approx a buck an hour. Drop in the bucket if you need to get something accomplished rather than watching videos and eating. The wifi works like a champ.

mikes60
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Singapore Airlines is offering it now

I just travelled round trip to Hong Kong on Singapore Airlines and they already offer internet service. I guess it won't be around much longer.

The cost was high, and the truth is I sometimes look forward to a break from being "connected". I really look forward to turning off my Blackberry even on shorter domestic flights. I turn it on as soon as I land so I can get my emails and voice mails since it could very well effect what I have to do when I land...was my meeting changed or cancelled?... etc.

The ticket in First Class was $10,000+, so the cost wouldn't have been a big issue, but 14 hours of peace and quiet...priceless.

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Inflight Broadband
Inflight broadband internet is now available in every class, in every seat, connecting you to the world, allowing you to access emails and surf the Internet at 35,000 feet above ground!

ABOUT THE SERVICE
Since early 2005, SIA is amongst the first carriers to offer real-time, high speed in-flight connectivity service to its passengers. Passengers using this service onboard Connexion by Boeing® equipped aircraft will be able to send and receive emails, connect real-time to their corporate virtual private networks and surf the Internet via their own wireless-enabled (802.11 a/b/g) laptops.

SERVICE AVAILIBILITY ON SIA FLIGHTS
Wireless inflight broadband is now available on all flights between Singapore and London, selected Singapore-Frankfurt-New York (SQ25 and SQ26) flights and selected Singapore-Sydney v.v flights. From 8 June 06, Connexion By Boeing® will also be available on selected flights to Hong Kong, San Francisco, Tokyo and Los Angeles. The service is subject to operational availability of aircraft installed with Connexion By Boeing® and will be progressively available on selected flights between Singapore and Continental Europe and between Singapore and USA.

PRICING
Four price options, charged according to block time usage from time of login, have been offered by Connexion by Boeing® for SIA passengers. They are:

Internet Block Time Rate
1 hour US$9.95
2 hours US$14.95
3 hours US$17.95
24 hours US$26.95
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Re: Singapore Airlines is offering it now

10k for a plane ticket, good lord i hope thats round trip on a chartered gulfstream.
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Re: Singapore Airlines is offering it now

said by Kearnstd See Profile :

10k for a plane ticket, good lord i hope thats round trip on a chartered gulfstream.
Just check their website. Or for that matter any ailine flying to Asia. I used to make the same trip for 2 to 3K about 10 years ago, but those days are over.
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Lufthansa has also offered it on select routes for a while now. I believe they were the launch customer.
captnk

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Re: Singapore Airlines is offering it now

I used it on Lufthansa and it was none too speedy. But it did pass some time on the way back from Germany.

Their in flight movies were better.
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