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Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Dumb ISPs Why are they selling a product that they know they cannot deliver?
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Agent_haito
join:2002-09-20
Winston Salem, NC | Re: Dumb ISPs All that manga and anime going back and forth at crazy speeds, is causing the strain | |
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Idjk
@144.226.x.x | Not so dumb they are making news for themselves// need to buy some stock in fiber | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Re: Dumb ISPs said by Idjk :
need to buy some stock in fiber Fiber does you no good if you have something that amounts to a dialup connection on the backbone end.
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fuzz
Fuzz
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join:2000-06-05
FuzzLand
| said by pnh102  :Why are they selling a product that they know they cannot deliver? Looks like they are starting to use the standard American business philosophy. Sell first, make excuses later. Standard Operating Procedure.
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE | "Why are they selling a product that they know they cannot deliver?"
A ferrari can go 150 down the highway, but if the highway is jammed...then not so much. | |
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Toadman
Hypnotoad
join:2001-11-28
Ohio | I would love 100 MBPS for $39 bucks It would be great to get this service for $39 bucks, but I would not want the $4000 a month apartment bill that comes with it. | |
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luminaire
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join:2005-03-22
Oakville, ON
clubs: | Upgrade! They just need to upgrade their core  . If you want to promise 100 mbps, make sure you have the bandwidth to back that claim up. | |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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| U.S. telecom is brilliant! that's why our connections are so slow compared to other advanced countries - by gradually increasing speeds over many years and in baby steps, U.S. telecom companies are just avoiding straining the backbone!
damn, they're smart! and all this time, I just thought they were greedy, monopolistic bastards! | |
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my2ndhandle
join:2006-07-24
Chattanooga, TN | With what money? At $39/mo per cowsumer where are they going to find the money to pay for the upgrades? | |
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mr sean
Professional Infidel
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join:2001-04-03
N. Absentia
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| I love this country. said by above news item :
Of the 23.3 million homes that had broadband connections at the end of March, 5.5 million had FTTH connections. That's just under a quarter of all domestic broadband links, and the number is growing fast. Heh...and that's 100mbps AND VOIP for $36.
Compared withsaid by earlier news bit :Verizon owns 81% of the nation's fiber to the home customers, according to a new report released today by Ovum-RHK. Granted, the total number of home fiber subscribers isn't that impressive at 463,000 FiOS is Up to 30 Mbps/5 Mbps for $179.95 period. (see »www22.verizon.com/content/consum···ices.htm )
And Heaven help the city that tries to roll out their own fiber...
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
NYC Metro
| said by mr sean :said by above news item :
Of the 23.3 million homes that had broadband connections at the end of March, 5.5 million had FTTH connections. That's just under a quarter of all domestic broadband links, and the number is growing fast. Heh...and that's 100mbps AND VOIP for $36. Compared with said by earlier news bit :Verizon owns 81% of the nation's fiber to the home customers, according to a new report released today by Ovum-RHK. Granted, the total number of home fiber subscribers isn't that impressive at 463,000 FiOS is Up to 30 Mbps/5 Mbps for $179.95 period. (see » www22.verizon.com/content/consum···ices.htm ) And Heaven help the city that tries to roll out their own fiber... In my neck of the woods it is $54.95/month. Don't bad mouth FIOS, it's the ONLY product a telco has ever put out lately that is TRULY innovating. Americans don't want or need 100mbps connections. Right now, the sweet spot is 10-20mbps (for geeky people). The average person could get by on 1mbit connections. American broadband is still a baby. We really need to stop trying to make a small child chase women and drive a sports car. We haven't reached that complex of a stage, YET.
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| This explains it all. ISPs just want to be able to charge per the megabyte. By giving out all these fast connections that they know will cause backbone problems(why not upgrade them?), and that opens the door to charging for your usage and dropping the unlimited services.
It would be stupid to be making such big gains in the broadband technology and then step back 15 years by charging per the megabyte. | |
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meister_sd
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join:2006-01-29
La Mesa, CA
| Re: This explains it all. This isn't a suprise. Prices for fiber have been cheap for a few years. The service is provided mostly by Yahoo and labeled as YahooBB (Yahoo BroadBand). Tokyo has a fiber ring around the whole city and the speeds are incredible! When I was there last summer I downloaded Exchange 2003 from my MSDN account and was getting 800-1000k downloads at a friends house that had the medium/average account. The whole CD took like 15-20 minutes!! There is a huge push to move everyone to fiber and off IDSN which is the way people in Tokyo were before. An 80M account was about $60 before so it's like the cable companies here that are increasing their speeds for the same price its just Tokyo has a much higher speed. I haven't been to other parts of Japan so I don't know how other cities handle the connections or what speeds are. | |
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join:2005-04-30
Canada eh?
| Re: This explains it all. I don't think the majority of people recognize that cheap services come at a greater cost. Everyone here wants the most possible bandwidth at the cheapest possible price without recognizing the inherit cost that goes into providing such services.
'Hey it might cost $200 to offer but i want it for $50' Consumers who exhibit the above line of thinking are often the same consumers who whine and bitch when the service turns to shit.
The market for telecommunication products and services should bare the cost of the product plus a reasonable profit for the company.
A core network supporting 158Gbps doesn't operate on $50 Linksys hardware.. | |
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R4M0N
Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
join:2000-10-04
Glen Allen, VA
| Re: This explains it all. said by Alliancenet :I don't think the majority of people recognize that cheap services come at a greater cost. Everyone here wants the most possible bandwidth at the cheapest possible price without recognizing the inherit cost that goes into providing such services. 'Hey it might cost $200 to offer but i want it for $50' Consumers who exhibit the above line of thinking are often the same consumers who whine and bitch when the service turns to shit. The market for telecommunication products and services should bare the cost of the product plus a reasonable profit for the company. A core network supporting 158Gbps doesn't operate on $50 Linksys hardware.. I agree with most of your post, except for:
"The market for telecommunication products and services should bare the cost of the product plus a reasonable profit for the company."
What is a reasonable profit? If we put a tag on "reasonable" is it still capitalism? Should there be a definition of "reasonable" or should the market (read: consumers) decide?
I know it might be seen as spliting hairs by some, but these are valid questions. | |
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join:2005-04-30
Canada eh?
| Re: This explains it all. R4M0N as a reasonable person, you realize the telecommunications industry represents a competitive marketplace.
A corporation in any industry should sell products with a profit margin that provides an incentive to maintain product quality and enhance future offerings. Providing products at a loss is bad for the economy and even worse for consumers.. (I recall companies represent jobs as well..)
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | we can only hope to play catch up to the rest of the world  | |
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grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY | HAHA PWNED Suckers that's what you get when you try to make someone else look bad. You wind up looking stupid yourself. Japan can keep its 10000000GBPS symmetrical give me 50/10 and I'm ok. | |
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nekote
join:2000-12-16
Hopkinton, MA | OP: Correction - article says $36 / month, incl. phone The way I read the article, it said $36 / month, and (IP?) phone service was available at no extra charge.
$36 vs. $39 - typo or different exchange rate used? | |
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join:2006-05-31
Salinas, CA | Re: OP: Correction - article says $36 / month, incl. phone All we need is enough for games not to lagg no need for huge speeds. | |
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thosun
@88.242.x.x | Re: OP: Correction - article says $36 / month, incl. phone this is a dream for me .... because i pay 40 dollar per month for 1 mbit dsl connection internet connection ...
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