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join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA | Don't want it Some people don't want a net nanny. I wonder how many calls to tech support Mac, Linux and UNIX users make because the bloat ware they give isn't working? Some may opt to use other methods of protection. | |
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join:2006-05-31
Salinas, CA | Re: Don't want it "Most ISPs now bundle antivirus, anti-spyware, parental controls, and other freebies to attract customers"
Antivirus for MAC isnt apple making commericials about MAC not carring about viruses? Anti-spyware? Parental controls is the parent anyone? | |
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chris
focus
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join:2000-08-13
Middletown, CT | Well ... if you listen to some of the people here ... ... there is no need for any anti virus or anti spyware software because Macs are invincible 
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maartena
Nice'n Round.
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| said by chris  :... there is no need for any anti virus or anti spyware software because Macs are invincible I'm just teasing ... don't all you Mac users get your panites in a bunch Sounds like the truth though.... when boasting about their Operating Systems, Mac and Linux users often boast about their security features and how they can't get any virusses, spyware, malware, etc.
Now that the Windows users however getting something that they aren't getting..... they are whining about not being treated equal. I would actually feel complimented if I did NOT need such software.
Only thing I could see is Parental Controls, but MacOS has other options for that. I believe its actually built into Tiger.
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join:2005-01-27
Newtown, PA
| A good thing too.. Really. I find that having a mac prevents them from installing c-r-a-p software on my computer. I want to install what I need, not what the ISP thinks I need.
Heck, Verizon's installer put Yahoo toolbar and messenger in my laptop. Thanks for uninstall app!
Then again, do mac users currently need antispyware, parental controls (we have them already), antivirus (well, I would like AVG or AVAST for OSX..please oh please).
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
| Re: A good thing too.. said by cableties :Really. I find that having a mac prevents them from installing c-r-a-p software on my computer. I want to install what I need, not what the ISP thinks I need. Heck, Verizon's installer put Yahoo toolbar and messenger in my laptop. Thanks for uninstall app! Then again, do mac users currently need antispyware, parental controls (we have them already), antivirus (well, I would like AVG or AVAST for OSX..please oh please). I'm not neglected...I am special! They don't install it, it's offered for the consumer if they want it. | |
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20 | Why didn't you UNSELECT those features when you installed the stuff from Verizon Yahoo? I did on my parents computer and installed ONLY the anti-virus leaving the toolbar and messenger off. | |
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Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
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join:2003-05-31
Erie, PA | Heck you do not even need an installer for Verizon broadband.
No installer = no crap from Verizon.
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Di relung hatiku bernyanyi bidadari
join:2005-05-17
·Comcast
| It would be nice. As a dual-platform user, I'd like to see better Mac support from the major ISPs and from other software providers (Google, I'd like Picasa for my Mac please kthxbye). But the whole "discount for not getting the whole service" saw is as old as garbage and about as useful. As an ex-tech support rep, I heard this all the time, and it's a garbage argument. You pay for access. Anything else is just gravy. No discounts for email downtime, software, anything else. You don't use your newsgroups, I'll bet. You won't get a discount on those either.
I don't like the no-Mac support situation either, but bringing the discount argument into it is just going to weaken your whole premise.
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HappyBunny
Hi. Cram It.
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join:2001-06-23
Long Beach, CA
·Charter Pipeline
| Re: It would be nice. I havent gotten any freebies from my ISP either (Charter) but its all crap, so who cares? I dont need the virus and spyware stuff *because* I have a Mac, and the Music Match junk they offer is worthless.
As another user says, having a Mac prevents them from screwing up my computer the way they have screwed up some people's PCs. Oh, and when I call in, I dont tell them I have a Mac, because I either get the "we dont support Macs" or my computer is blamed for their network issues, automatically. | |
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cbrigante2
Cubs 20??
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join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL | Re: It would be nice. I've had a similar conversation with Verizon DSL before. Once I stated that I was connecting with a Mac, they shunted me off to the one Mac support rep they had (with the additional hold time). | |
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sivran
God Save The Suite
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join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
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·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: It would be nice. You must've called on a bad day (not that this sort of thing can be planned, of course). Usually the mac people are the ones sitting around waiting for calls.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| said by McLovin :Tech: That's why, DSL technology is incompatible with macintosh systems. Get a PC. Me: No! Given that new Macs can now run Windows, I'm surprised that such a response hasn't become commonplace for Mac users who complain about things not working for them.
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
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| I'm currently in a dual platform world myself. I have a Windows desktop that I built, and a MacBook Pro.
I use the Mac most of the time now, but still use the Windows desktop on occasion. The only thing I downloaded from Comcast (before I switched to DSL) was the virus scan software. I never used the other stuff, even though I had Windows.
All I want from my ISP is internet service.
I guess that's why they call it an internet service provider....
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Premium
join:2000-07-08
Plymouth, MI | Market share When you consider that mac has a 5% share of the market it should be obvious why they are being ignored. It simply costs too much to support them. Like it or not it's a Windows world.
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qdemn7
Smurf in My Loop
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join:2003-09-16
Fort Worth, TX
| Re: Market share A lousy 2%? Jeez, aand I though Jobs was really making some inroads. 
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join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA | IDC or Gartner had them at ~ 4% last quarter. They are the #5 computer vendor in the USA. | |
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garagerock
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join:2002-06-14
Louisville, KY
| Re: Market share said by itguy05 :IDC or Gartner had them at ~ 4% last quarter. They are the #5 computer vendor in the USA. Wow, that's...less than impressive. | |
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| Nope.. not at their prices.
Sorry, my opinion (and as much as I hate windows) is that MACS are for spoiled brats that are willing to pay a premium price for a computer that's only worth half what they want for them.
I guess Mac figures that if their customer base can afford to sit at Starbucks and pay $5.50 for a coffee drink, or an over priced Volkswagon, or live in over priced inner metro cities, they can afford an overpriced piece of hardware too.
Then I guess they can also purchase their own add-ons for their comptuers as well and not worry about the freebees. MAC people pretty much treat their computers better than their own families and don't like to be told what to put on their computer.
(Now, would the small handfull of MAC users that don't fit the at-large description of a MAC user flame this post please?) | |
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
·Optimum Online
| Re: Market share said by fiberguy :Nope.. not at their prices. Sorry, my opinion (and as much as I hate windows) is that MACS are for spoiled brats that are willing to pay a premium price for a computer that's only worth half what they want for them. Generalize much? | |
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| Re: Market share Nope.. I sure don't.. it's not a general statement.. sorry.
Even some of my best friends fit this category. I've met TONS of Mac people in my day and many people I know say the same thing about the Mac people they run accross...
Sorry, even Apple agrees with me. Do you have any idea who they market their product to?
So yea.. I guess I do generalize much. | |
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Premium
join:2005-06-22
Peoria, IL
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I am a 64 yr. old lady.
First Mac purchased in 1997. Also use Apple Base Station.
Yes Mac's are pricey. I do my own tech stuff, have
installed items on the mother board. Configured the
Apple Base Station to route my DSL internet and have
easily added a Toshiba PC running Windows Xp to my
Wireless Network.
My present Mac purchased in 1998, I still am using it.
I find Mac OS to be easier to work with, find everything
if I manually uninstall software, etc.
My DSL is through SBC/AT&T, since 2001, I have to be
techy with the Mac, as they offer little to no
support for Mac users.
In my opinion, as they did know I used a Mac when I
signed up for the service and did my own install etc.
They should provide reasonable, credible Mac Tech
Support.
As for the "Free Protection Software" I do not miss
all of that, and anyone downloading it or the yahoo
toolbar, check your computer for malware.
I do understand the type of Mac user you refer to as
Spoiled Brats, they hurry and buy every new thing
that comes out.
The Mac Addict type user, close minded as I read here
no need for Anti-Virus software, no need for Anti-Spyware
etc. they do not add anything regarding those who
still say Macs suck.
No need to detail more, except for a funny for all,
I recently purchased the only Anti-Spyware for Mac
that I had problems finding, LOL it is a lousy app.,
Crashes the Mac constantly.
Point being, I do believe Anti-Spyware and Anti-Virus
applications are needed. Two Mac notebooks less now,
due to hacking type Trojan in 2005. The addicts, still
are going to say oh no, a false positive, sorry not so.
Just hope to add a bit of sensible info.
J.M. | |
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49 States And Texas
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join:2002-12-02
Houston, TX | Mac SUX I wouldn't want to touch it with a stick, I don't think I am alone on this... | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Re: Mac SUX No, you are not alone...  | |
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join:2000-11-21
·Charter Pipeline
| said by TexasGuy :I wouldn't want to touch it with a stick, I don't think I am alone on this... You are not  | |
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lightzout
Premium
join:2005-07-29
San Anselmo, CA
| False advertising from Apple? Every time I see one of those "I am a Mac" ads where the guy jumps out of the box claiming he is ready to go tackle the world I just chuckle. Its mostly true. Apple products are great, as long you keep buying them every time they release a new product and dont mind paying more for less choices. But if your really a mac guy or gal why do you want to run other stuff anyway? I like Macs and our family has a virtual museum of apple pcs but the air of universal superiority they try to profess is puzzling considering the platforms relatively narrow choices for programs, apps and above all else games compared to the windows based machines. But why exactly are comcast consumers complaining (although the article only seemed to mention one woman from berkely complaining) that they cant use a free photo or music app? Maybe they didnt know iphoto wasnt bundled in a Tiger upgrade and didnt want to buy ilife? Comcast works great with Macs. I am a PC guy and I just setup my home network and my wifes office with Mac hardware. It wasn't cheap but most PC owners know the hidden cost of using "free" bundled applications. Apple is premium line folks. Lame article, I assume the author really needed a fast tidbit. | |
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Swingerhead
Premium
join:2004-04-06
Richmond, VA | Waaaaa! I dont use all the extra crappy stuff that comes with my service, I want a discount too, and I have a Windows based system! Waaa!!! | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| Might Be Nice... But It Won't Happen I have never used my ISP's portal, email service, newsgroups, parental controls, spam/virus protection or any other service aside from it's dumb pipe. It would be great if Comcast provided a "no-frills" service tier with minimal PC support and none of the extra crap.
Now let me go see if that really was a pig flying outside my window.
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Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA |  I thought Mac's did not need stuff like...
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20 | Re: I thought Mac's did not need stuff like... Na,... I think the hackers and virus writers already feel sorry enough for Mac users so they just leave them alone. | |
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b10010011
Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA | I don't use the McAfee that Comcast provides So I should get a discount too. | |
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tomj1226
join:2002-02-20
Allentown, PA
| NO soup for you. Of course they shouldn't get a discount. The mac user knew before he bought his mac that 99.999999999999% of the worlds software wouldn't work on his computer, and now they want a discount? You do NOT get a discount. You can still have the software which will run on any pc. | |
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Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL | worthless I just prefer the internet connection, I don't want, nor do I need any bundled software. All that bull actually get's in the way. | |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Mac users dont want the whole package If you had a Windows PC, and Comcast, how would you feel if you were forced to bundle the "Mac Service Package" with your Internet Service, or have no HSI at all?
Now lets inverse it, If you had a Mac, and Comcast, how would you feel if you were forced to bundle the "Windows Service Package" with yout Internet Service, or have no HSI at all? | |
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join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | Re: Mac users dont want the whole package There's no forcing. It's an optional service, that wasn't even offered when I originally signed up for HSI. I don't use it, so should I get a discount, even though I'm a PC user? | |
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join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA | I'd like the choice to decline the package and save the cash, regardless of platform. | |
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join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Mac users dont want the whole package They didn't increase the cost of the service when they added the "freebies", and I'm sure they would rather just take them away from everyone rather than refund anyone's money. Basically they offer them for the people who are too ignorant to realize the essential protection needed to be connected to the internet. You shouldn't even be connecting to your ISP without these protections in the first place. | |
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ck9
join:2004-06-12
Portland, OR | Duh! Read the title of the article again, "ISP Freebies Neglect Mac Users."
The key is FREEBIES.
Nuf said. | |
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: Duh! but i thought macs DIDNT NEEED that stuff(antivirus, anti-spyware, parental controls) lol | |
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Taranis
join:2001-12-06
Mount Vernon, WA | What? Yeah, what he said! I thought Mac users prided themselves on not needing anti-spyware and antivirus solutions. Hm... Seems a bit of greedy envy going on... | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| why why why Why even worry about bundles? its usually a bottomfeeder product like mc afee. Cox offers that and theres no better way to bring a system to its knees than to load their suite on your computer.
Why not offer KAV or even zone alarm free version or any other DECENT piece of software.
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20 | Re: why why why Just be thankfull that NO ONE is bundling symantec's crap with their ISP services. | |
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Premium
join:2001-05-02
Gilbert, AZ
·Cox HSI
| Oh for crying out loud. We're Mac users and since our computers are bullet proof, we don't give a rat's a** about not getting some free trashware programs. I certainly wouldn't have the nerve/stupidity to seek a discount over this.
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