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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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| Re: AWESOME! very funny  , but if he doesn't want leechers why doesn't he just secure his system.
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join:2001-07-15
Suwanee, GA
| Re: AWESOME! said by Transmaster  :very funny , but if he doesn't want leechers why doesn't he just secure his system. What fun is that! 
Quote from the page
"My neighbours are stealing my wireless internet access. I could encrypt it or alternately I could have fun." | |
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Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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| Re: AWESOME! said by dscl :said by Transmaster :very funny , but if he doesn't want leechers why doesn't he just secure his system. What fun is that! Quote from the page "My neighbours are stealing my wireless internet access. I could encrypt it or alternately I could have fun." You have a good point
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join:2002-11-17
Richmond, VA
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| Re: AWESOME! Is it really "stealing" if you open your door (don't secure your signal), invite people in (you're the one broadcasting the signal), and they don't actually take anything belonging to you that you didn't invite them to take (like, you know, files or something on your network)? Eh, whatever. Have your fun while you can. | |
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
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Putnam, CT
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join:2002-11-17
Richmond, VA
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| Re: AWESOME! Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Just asking a question, not trying to make an analogy. Here's another question:
If my neighbor's kid tosses a ball around, and it winds up in my yard, and he leaves it there instead of retrieving it, should I throw it back into his yard or should I just throw it into the trash?
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join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
| Re: AWESOME! With either question your stupidity and point is clear.
You in a round about way are trying to say the guy is at fault because he did not "secure" his airwaves. Just because it is there you are not "in the right" to assume it is there for your use.
I and many more, will argue we are not obligated to "lock" our router. It is your responsibility to make sure you can use the things that you do not personally own. If you don't know if you can, then it is your obligation to seek that permission. If you can't seek that permission because you don't know who to ask then you are to continue to assume you are not invited to use it. | |
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fireflier
Coffee. . .Need Coffee
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join:2001-05-25
Limbo
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| Or take a more direct route and simply have it serve up a page that says "HEY PARASITE: GET YOUR OWN #%#$& INTERNET ACCESS!"
At least that way they'd be immediately aware he knows they're leeching off of him. Depending on who's doing it, they're liable to be so stupid they don't realize he's screwing with them and they're bugging Dell tech support and asking them why their "internet is upside down".
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join:2001-06-09
Grand Forks Afb, ND | Re: AWESOME! I'd rather the stoopid leach users to just get the upsidedown page and get frustrated! ha!
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join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Or just set up WPA, if you really don't want to share the connection. Otherwise leaving it open means you do want to share it. | |
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join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL | Funny, our wi-fi network here has been doing that for a year or more.
It takes you to a police website. | |
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SammyBK
I'D Rather Be Skiing
join:2000-09-07
Los Angeles, CA
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| We thought of this We were going to do this at our house, but just got lazy. For anyone who did not have a registered MAC address, all webpages would redirect to an authentication page which would be some variant of goatse, tubgirl or lemonparty. It would however have a box to request registration on the network.
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
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| Re: We thought of this said by SammyBK :We were going to do this at our house, but just got lazy. For anyone who did not have a registered MAC address, all webpages would redirect to an authentication page which would be some variant of goatse, tubgirl or lemonparty. It would however have a box to request registration on the network. Someday. Exactly. It's a lot of fun to do these kinds of things it's just the "finding the time" problem that always gets in the way. Personally, I'd love to set up a WiFi AP with extra range just so I could tempt people.
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AnonProxy
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ß | Dumb idea, you route people to pr0n and it's a kid....you have some serious trouble. | |
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Rockin' the Boxen
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Alexandria, VA
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| Re: We thought of this said by AnonProxy :Dumb idea, you route people to pr0n and it's a kid....you have some serious trouble. Those sites aren't porn. They're just disturbingly disgusting.
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: We thought of this said by nixen :said by AnonProxy :Dumb idea, you route people to pr0n and it's a kid....you have some serious trouble. Those sites aren't porn. They're just disturbingly disgusting. -tom Yes they are. Lemonparty has 3 old men involved in oral sex. That's not porn? Goatse is a dude stretching his anus to an unimaginable width. One could do a colon examination just from that pic. Tubgirl is some Japanese chick lying in a bathtub with her butt in the air and squirting enema waste out of her butt and having it land directly on her face. | |
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Rockin' the Boxen
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Alexandria, VA
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| Re: We thought of this said by BF69 :said by nixen :said by AnonProxy :Dumb idea, you route people to pr0n and it's a kid....you have some serious trouble. Those sites aren't porn. They're just disturbingly disgusting. -tom Yes they are. Lemonparty has 3 old men involved in oral sex. That's not porn? Goatse is a dude stretching his anus to an unimaginable width. One could do a colon examination just from that pic. Tubgirl is some Japanese chick lying in a bathtub with her butt in the air and squirting enema waste out of her butt and having it land directly on her face. Ok, I'll ammend: Goatse and Tubgirl are not porn - they are just disturbingly disgusting.
Happy, now?
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AnonProxy
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| Re: We thought of this Ummm yeah they are....showing genitalia is generally considered a form of porn. Granted it depends on context.
If a teacher can't hold up the picture in class and show it without getting fired or getting in a lot of trouble, you would to.
Simple version, anything that would be considered R rated in a movie for sexual content is going to get you some jail time if you show it to a minor. | |
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Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | No. You don't have any trouble. The kid shouldn't be on your service anyway.
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join:2005-11-26 | Re: We thought of this
Now, you know that wont matter, especially depending on the age of the kid. They'll smack you hard anyway because you are, supposedly, an adult and are expected to know better. | |
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Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | Re: We thought of this Yes. It will matter. You didn't invite or tell the kid to access your network and what you do is your own business. It's not any different than a kid accessing porn from Google.
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join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
1 edit | Technically no. Police are going so far as to arrest someone for using an unprotected wifi connection. If police are going to pretend it's illegal to access a completely open connection, then the child would have to be arrested.
All this of course despite the fact that windows will automatically connect you to an open wifi connection. Which means if you leave it open, you absolutely know people will end up using it. | |
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join:2001-11-10
San Diego, CA
| Which is why I prefer MAC Auth instead of standard security. MAC and port redirection lets me get the utmost level of control. The only problem is those people who know how to get your actual MAC address and clone it by connecting to your Wi-Fi adapter as either a false infrastructure or via ad-hoc (If the user didn't block it). | |
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join:2001-04-29
Winter Park, FL | You know, someone around my house tried to do that, they even turned off DHCP and DNS, but I just made my own IP, and used Verizon's DNS servers because they were easy to remember. | |
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| said by phattieg :You know, someone around my house tried to do that, they even turned off DHCP and DNS, but I just made my own IP, and used Verizon's DNS servers because they were easy to remember. i wonder is it illegal to access people's machines that appear on your network? ie if a freeloader gets past even your security can you say start deleting their files.(i found that sometimes Linux samba ignores windows and will bypass access restrictions of network drives from win).
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Elf Wizard
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| hard thing is they would have to prove that it was your router causing the redirect. that means getting a warrent and seizing your router, by which time you could have reset it to factory settings and basicly eliminated any case they would have.
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join:2002-11-21
USA
| said by SammyBK :We were going to do this at our house, but just got lazy. For anyone who did not have a registered MAC address, all webpages would redirect to an authentication page which would be some variant of goatse, tubgirl or lemonparty. It would however have a box to request registration on the network. Someday. Don't forget www.meatspin.com 
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richk_1957
If ..Then..Else
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join:2001-04-11
Minas Tirith
| That's a original method You think AH-HA, I've got a connection!
Instead you get pictures of cute kittens.
I can hear howls of frustration from some people
I like kittens
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Norwich, CT | Re: That's a original method then direct them to www.dslreports.com's front page. Justin would love the free advertisement. | |
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join:2003-01-03
Milwaukee, WI | . I dont think they would mind the traffic, as they have google advertising, and could get some more monies out of it
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cableties
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Newtown, PA | Amused I wonder how the hosts of Kittenwar like the traffic?
Still..just lock it down. And yeah, I wouldn't refer them to pr0n. Maybe some site that pushes malware...  | |
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KF6HCD
Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
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join:2003-01-31
Yucaipa, CA
·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | Re: Amused said by cableties :I wonder how the hosts of Kittenwar like the traffic? Still..just lock it down. And yeah, I wouldn't refer them to pr0n. Maybe some site that pushes malware... If I could figure out how to let passersby utilize "some" of my bandwidth, without giving them all my pipe, nor letting them get to pr0n sites and p2p, etcetera... then I would do so... Any ideas? Anyone?
I would, ideally, like for them to do a "courtesy" registration, just so I could keep some kind of stats... I don't mind sharing because "sharing is caring", but I would like to protect myself at the same time...
I have Verizon DSL, with a Wirespeed 327 Modem/Wireless Router. I currently have the wireless disabled.
Down is 3Mb/s, up is 768kb/s, so I think FTP might be out as well... I'm quite well protected by firewall and anti-virus, and I know how to mitigate any network hazards, so I'm not too worried about that; not that I would reject out-of-hand any advice in that arena...
I'm not stingy... So shoot me.  I guess I'm going the opposite direction of the guy in the article.
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | theres stuff on linksys wireless routers to do that but you can easly keep them off your netowrk by turning on AP Isolation then you can use QoS stuff to limit the speeds | |
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KF6HCD
Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
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join:2003-01-31
Yucaipa, CA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Amused On second recollection, I have a Microsoft MN-500 wireless router. I'll have to look up the instructions, but I think I can add that to the Wirespeed router as an AP. Maybe I can do this after all...
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KF6HCD
Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
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join:2003-01-31
Yucaipa, CA
·Verizon FIOS
| said by KF6HCD :said by cableties :I wonder how the hosts of Kittenwar like the traffic? Still..just lock it down. And yeah, I wouldn't refer them to pr0n. Maybe some site that pushes malware... If I could figure out how to let passersby utilize "some" of my bandwidth, without giving them all my pipe, nor letting them get to pr0n sites and p2p, etcetera... then I would do so... Any ideas? Anyone? I would, ideally, like for them to do a "courtesy" registration, just so I could keep some kind of stats... I don't mind sharing because "sharing is caring", but I would like to protect myself at the same time... I have Verizon DSL, with a Wirespeed 327 Modem/Wireless Router. I currently have the wireless disabled. Down is 3Mb/s, up is 768kb/s, so I think FTP might be out as well... I'm quite well protected by firewall and anti-virus, and I know how to mitigate any network hazards, so I'm not too worried about that; not that I would reject out-of-hand any advice in that arena... I'm not stingy... So shoot me. I guess I'm going the opposite direction of the guy in the article. Cheers. Sorry for self quote...
In the time since I posted,
"NOT ONE WIRELESS STATION HAS CONNECTED!" Oh, well...
So, in the interest of keeping the R.F. spectrum clear, I have decided to take it down...
I guess my router/WLAN is okay, after all...
Your mileage may will vary...
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join:2003-09-04
Latonia, KY |  Awwwww
I'd be the guy routing the traffic to his own site for free advertisement :P | |
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KF6HCD
Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
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join:2003-01-31
Yucaipa, CA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Awwwww said by pimphesus :This just makes me wanna jump on wireless again, just to figure out how to do that I'd be the guy routing the traffic to his own site for free advertisement :P You, sir, are a BLOODY GENIOUS!
Why didn't think of that my self? Simple answer: I'm not a genious... nor do I play one on TV.
Public vote for you...
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join:2001-10-02
Columbus, OH | Re: Awwwww Nor can you spell "Genius"... | |
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Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | routing people to your Outwars link. /evil | |
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join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL
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| Re Man, i want to do this to our wireless network now, screw WPA! Maybe replace all images with someone flicking you off!
I got a bunch of strange looks for bursting out laughing in our schools computer lab when i read this.
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kaisa
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join:2002-08-20
Glen Ellyn, IL
clubs: | Re: Re You sir, always get strange looks. | |
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rob_in_chatt
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join:2004-09-17
Chattanooga, TN | wireless anyone who runs a wireless network is a fool if they do not secure it. your just asking for trouble. i have one and it is locked. no one is going to steal my bandwidth, i work too hard to pay for it and i refuse to have someone leeching off it. | |
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join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
| Open networks FTW! said by rob_in_chatt :anyone who runs a wireless network is a fool if they do not secure it. your just asking for trouble. ...i work too hard to pay for it and i refuse to have someone leeching off it. Boo. It's people like you that make me sick.
We need routers with easy to use hotspot firmware, and then you could let people register for free and then they'd get say 500kbps or basically just enough to browse without impacting your performance much (assuming say 3mbit line)
In my neighborhood I find 27 different wireless networks from my house. Unfortunatly most are encrypted. But what I've done in the past is point my 24dB grid towards one of the faster open ones, and then re-broadcast it over my 9dB omni w/ amplifier and call it "freeinet". Hehehe. Or I load up linux and cap some weak packets, but I have enough open networks around here I haven't had to resort to that *much* yet. Although if I was your neighbor and knew you had that attitude I'd probably take a shot at your network :P | |
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join:2002-09-11
Liberty, MO | Re: Open networks FTW! Watch out for your power. 30 db is max legal power for the unlicenced spectrum. Big brother is always watching. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: Open networks FTW! said by hamiltonjm :Watch out for your power. 30 db is max legal power for the unlicenced spectrum. Big brother is always watching. So is jaywalking, your point? | |
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visio
join:2001-08-29
Clifton, NJ | if you are such a proponent for open networks, why not pay for the connection yourself and provide it to others instead of ridiculing those who want to be the sole users of something who they alone are paying for? | |
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Ebolla
join:2005-09-28
Dracut, MA
| You feel "sick" that he feels that since he pays for his connection and noone else does then he is the only one who has the right to use? By your reasoning I guess your neighbors should just be able to use your car whenever they feel like it, I mean it makes them sick just knowing you have a car to drive and expect to be the only person using it.... | |
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join:2005-04-14
Richmond, VA | Interesting This is awesome. I'd love to learn how to do this. Heck you could probably even setup your own server and re-direct to some custom made page...
Very interesting indeed. | |
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
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join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL
·Bright House
1 edit | Gives this guy a thumbs up I give this guy a thumbs up to a very interesting concept. Just another way to stop the leechers. I keep my wireless network locked down as well. If the neighbors want have access to my network then they can share in the cost. If you can spend a $1,000 for a computer then I think you can spend a couple of dollars to share. | |
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join:2006-01-12 | Re: Gives this guy a thumbs up owned | |
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Bloemker
join:2006-07-27
Sicklerville, NJ | How Would You Do This? I'm new to this - how would you set this up? Where would the code go? I'm a little confused... Thanks! | |
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SammyBK
I'D Rather Be Skiing
join:2000-09-07
Los Angeles, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: How Would You Do This? The 3rd party firmware avaiable for the WRT54g allows you to specify an authentication server. Then it is just a matter of you installing the software on a box and setting it up. You could also forgo the router completly and just create a BSD/Linux router that does all sorts of cool things. | |
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@verizon.net | only using "WEB" wouldn't exactly work when using p2p or other apps.. if 1 wifi is not usable, most likely they will move on to easier pickings.. but if you pick a fight with script kiddies or blax hat, you can rue the day you made them public enemy #1. | |
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thender2
Glamour Profession
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join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY | Prox.. what now? That's what you'll hear from anyone ignorant to the fact that they should secure their wireless connection. This is nothing people who freeload off of other's wifi should be afraid of. | |
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plattypus1
join:2005-04-08
Riverside, CA | Redirect them to astalavista.com
Odds are they're using Winblows anyway, that'd be awesome. | |
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join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Re: Redirect them Why would that be awesome? | |
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fcisler
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join:2004-06-14
Riverhead, NY
| captive portal My WiFi isn't using any type of encryption....
It also will give anyone who wants a IP a dhcp lease.....
BUT try and do any type of DNS query, or connect to anything, and your not going anywhere....
try going to any webpage and you get my captive portal. It's basically a nice way of saying "f*ck off!", but with a username/password prompt. I find it very easy. Once you authenticate to my router, you then have 150kb/150kb access to the net (PLENTY for the quick times i need to use it). If i need to get into my LAN or DMZ, then i start up openvpn (installed on all my laptops). This will let me into my LAN, and redirect all traffic through VPN - which is not speed limited.
I don't care at all about encryption, as i don't do any financial or anything i need to worry about someone getting my information over my wifi network. But again, if i need to, i use the VPN. | |
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Got Helix?
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join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
clubs: | I hate to admit it... But those are some cute kittens...oh no, the sugary sweetness is getting to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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join:2004-02-08
Columbia, SC | It's the most stupid Idea ever !!! Why not just secure your network. | |
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stridr69
join:2003-05-19
San Luis Obispo, CA
| Jeeze... So this person ALLOCATES part of his WIFI bandwidth to "lecher's" just to tick them off.
Sorry, THIS wireless user doesn't allow it. I like ALL my bandwidth, and I don't want to share with anybody!
Seems to me your asking for trouble from your ISP doing this.
But, what the hey-isn't my HSI that's being "used".
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