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Please Delete Our Leaked Data
Japanese company tries to get genie back in bottle
The personal records of some 1,500 mental patients in Japan accidentally found their way onto the Winny file-sharing network, which is the Japanese equivalent of FreeNet. According to the Daily Yomiuri On-Line, the company that lost the data has gotten Japanese ISPs to send letters to their customers, requesting they delete the downloaded information. Softbank BB Corp., operator of the Yahoo! BB service, is not playing along. "We have not been able to confirm the leak, nor whether the content of the leaked information was illegal in nature. We therefore can't demand our users delete the data."
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rawgerz
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okay?

It's kind of funny but who really wants to read about some unknown persons mental patients medical history?
And how do files 'accidentally' find their way onto the net? VPN? Should they really take a chance on that..

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Re: okay?

I don't know, but if I was one of those patients, I would be going nuts right now....

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said by N3OGH:

I don't know, but if I was one of those patients, I would be going nuts right now....
If they are in a mental institute, aren't they already nuts?

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Re: okay?

I think that was the punchline.

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said by Speedy8:

I think that was the punchline.
Indeed it was. And to lose these kinds of records, you have to be mental from working around stuff like that.

envoid
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Re: okay?

I almost blew my nose all over my desk when I read it.

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said by Chris 313:
said by N3OGH:

I don't know, but if I was one of those patients, I would be going nuts right now....
If they are in a mental institute, aren't they already nuts?
Thank you Chris that was the joke.

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Re: okay?

said by Dustyn:

said by Chris 313:
said by N3OGH:

I don't know, but if I was one of those patients, I would be going nuts right now....
If they are in a mental institute, aren't they already nuts?
Thank you Chris that was the joke.
You're Welcome! ^_^

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insert drum roll and cymbal crash here. good one!

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TOO Funny... I was thinking the same thing...lol
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its nuts to think people will nicely delete files, if you got a random fax from a wrong number im sure one would keep it if it had anything juicy.
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Oops!

Did someone accidentally set their entire hard drive to share?
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Re: Oops!

There was a virus spreading around that would effectively do that...

Cho Baka
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Re: Oops!

Yes, "Winny" the Japanese file sharing proggie of choice occasionally sees "viruses" that result in unintended sharing of the contents of user's PCs.

A number of large companies (via employees taking work home) have been hit by this.
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Be careful

If these guys find out their records were released, they're liable to go nuts.
b10010011
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You know there ought to be a law...

Yes this is a bit off topic, but still.

There have been so many recent incidents with laptops (that were taken off company property for whatever reason) containing personal information being stolen.

The business involved should be required to pay for every single person whos data was stolen to get things like a credit report, new credit cards, bank accounts. Also the company whe lost the data should have to pay back any money or credit card charges made by the data theifs.

Really there is no good reason for people to be taking this type of data home with them. I know, I know, "so they can work from home". They will have to work late or come in on the weekend if they can't get teir job done during normal working hours.

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Re: You know there ought to be a law...

The last thing we need are more laws....there are plenty of laws and civil actions that can be taken against these MORANS! (worse than a moron)....
If you want the gov't telling you how to use your PC, please kill yourself now....and don't breed.
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Re: You know there ought to be a law...

said by AnonProxy:

If you want the gov't telling you how to use your PC, please kill yourself now....and don't breed.
No, I want the government to tell companies that they have to protect our personal information or pay for the damage.

This goes for data stored in a laptop or a file cabnet.

It's not the media, its the information stored on it that is important.

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Re: You know there ought to be a law...

said by b10010011:

said by AnonProxy:

If you want the gov't telling you how to use your PC, please kill yourself now....and don't breed.
No, I want the government to tell companies that they have to protect our personal information or pay for the damage.

This goes for data stored in a laptop or a file cabnet.

It's not the media, its the information stored on it that is important.
LOL There's civil court for this issue. It falls under defamation, etc...

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Re: You know there ought to be a law...

If it were to happen here in the US you could slam the medical facility with breech of "Doctor to patient confidentiality". Defamation is totally different from this.

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That's unreasonable. The pay for everything deal.

If you rented a car using company funds and it got stolen from you and the thief totaled it, would YOU want to pay the $10,000-$50,000 to replace it just because you happened to have possession of the car when it was stolen?

I'm not justifying the action. I'm stating that there is a certain level of reasonable expectation that the person has taken sufficient measures to secure the item(s) in question. You could lock your car, put on a CLUB, enable an alarm and install a kill switch, and a determined thief could STILL take your car. Does that automatically fault you? Should you be responsible because the thief was diligent?

If a company can demonstrate that it took best measures to prevent the loss of the information by ensuring all security updates were applied and appropriate encryption and authentication processes are in place, they shouldn't have to "foot the bill" because some determined thief got their hands on the information.
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Re: You know there ought to be a law...

said by ReVeLaTeD:

If a company can demonstrate that it took best measures to prevent the loss of the information
Well one mans "best measure" is another mans gaping security hole.

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Re: You know there ought to be a law...

best measure is best measure. There's no distinction.

Obviously if a company sent an email saying "oops!", that's not best measure. However if a company had a timed, locked, alarmed, camera'd room with its servers AND instituted RSA token security with random generating secondary identification numbers, AND thumbprint security, AND corporate policy with disciplinary action plan, AND live monitoring, AND regular background checks on all staff, it's hard to fault that company if some determined ass posing as a cleaning crew member happened to steal a workstation with NPI on it.
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Re: You know there ought to be a law...

said by ReVeLaTeD:

Obviously if a company sent an email saying "oops!",
So far in every case I have heard about the companies responce to the theft has been: "oops!" A laptop containing all your personal info has bee stolen. Customers (or patients) are advised to keep an eye on their credit report etc...

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Re: You know there ought to be a law...

said by b10010011:

said by ReVeLaTeD:

Obviously if a company sent an email saying "oops!",
So far in every case I have heard about the companies responce to the theft has been: "oops!" A laptop containing all your personal info has bee stolen. Customers (or patients) are advised to keep an eye on their credit report etc...
We're not talking about just the response. We're talking about the measures in place before the breach/theft. It's one thing to say "oops!" about a theft where there was no security to hopefully block attempts to get the data. It's another to say "oops!" when there's 5 levels of security to crack AND a trace program designed to catch the thief. As a judge that has to be weighed, not just how the company responded to the breach/theft, but also what measures were in place prior to.

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What are they CRAZY!

Well maybe
Expand your moderator at work

envoid
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Isn't the rule...

...once on the Internet, always and forever on the Internet?

Good luck, Japan.
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Different people...

This didn't happen in the US. It happened in Japan. Hence why the letters would be sent out and most likely read by the users. Japan's society is way way different than say the US or the UK. Japanese citizens have way more respect for each other than our country ever will.

You'd be surprised by how many people that will actually delete the information if it is on their PC. They may read it first, but they'd probably get rid of it just as quickly. I mean really. Its a complete waste of space on a person's hard drive anyways.

As for how it got on the network. Just as easily as some dumb kid in the states getting on Kazaa or Napster back in the days and sharing their whole C drive like a complete moron. Usually giving the world mom and pops backups of Quicken, Money, etc. assuming they were saved to My Documents in Windows...which normally seems to be the default location.

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WTF?!?!?!?

"found their way onto the Winny file-sharing network"

How in the f**k did the files make it onto a file sharing network?