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|  reub2000Premium
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Evanston, IL | Re: FIRST POST said by LiberalKing:FVCK THE RIAA those creeps deserve a tube shove-up their anus Why not a retractable baton? | |
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| | | | Re: FIRST POST I think a Cattle prod w/ endless pwr supply stuck in the on position is more fitting for those degenerates. | |
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Buffalo, NY | said by reub2000:said by LiberalKing:FVCK THE RIAA those creeps deserve a tube shove-up their anus Why not a retractable baton? said by reub2000:said by LiberalKing:FVCK THE RIAA Why retractable ? Let it be a mile long with no vaseline --
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|  2kmaroThinkPremium,ExMod 1 BC
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ColossalCave | What we NEED is a change in the idiotic law that was bought and paid for by the **AA groups - the DMCA itself. It needs to be repealed or rewritten to reflect the reality of this universe, not some dreamworld in a Galaxy Far, Far Away (can I get sued for quoting that?).
Even reputable organizations are beginning to speak out against the DMCA: Death by DMCAA, published by the IEEE for one. Write your congressman, senator, governor, fifth grade English teacher and anyone else you can think of pointing out how this incredibly stupid law is:
#1 - keeping great technology from being developed
#2 - causing great technology to have to be recalled from the shelves
#3 - simply making the MPAA/RIAA richer in giving them a tool with which to threaten people with and make them settle up out of court because they can't afford to hire legal defense (legalized extortion as I see it).
#4 - making it a real headache to share your copyrighted materials online
OK, skip #4 - but beat them over the head with #s 1, 3 and 3.
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| | | The RIAA does not recognize fair-use, or any fair-use doctrine what-so-ever.
It is the position of the RIAA that there is no such thing a fair-use, under any circumstance or at any time.
It is the position of the RIAA that it’s policies and edicts supersede international, federal or state law.
It is the position that all (recorded) music comes under the prevue of the RIAA regardless of source, ownership, content, status, or will of its creator. | |
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| | | | Re: RIAA policy is that fair-use not recognized, ever. HEY!
No it's not. The RIAA is NOT the ONLY LEGAL SOLUTION to get your art covered by copyright. They are funded by the majors. There's the whole Indie world out there as well, and the creative commons. www.creativecommons.org
www.anyhow.net
www.downhillbattle.org
lets get these idiots out of a job and take the majors over with the creative commons new copyright and licensing model and f**k them deep.
Marco Tikkanen
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South Williamson, KY | oh brother ohh brother! before you know it their gonna sue people who make home videos where people just so happen to be playing a copyrighted song on a stereo or something in the background..
what everyone needs to start doing is stop using RIAA songs for anything and use indie music | |
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| | | Re: oh brother said by zipjay:ohh brother! before you know it their gonna sue people who make home videos where people just so happen to be playing a copyrighted song on a stereo or something in the background.. re-read the article and you will see that this is already being done:
"Project Opus claims the warnings are even being applied to videos of amateur dancers who are getting their groove on to copyrighted music."
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Atlanta, GA |  In the RIAA's view...
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Wheeling, IL | Sickening. It's always a pleasure to see an entity destroy fan-made homages.
I dare presume that the RIAA and MPAA simply do not want "fans" or customers. | |
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| | | Re: Sickening. Of course not you silly sally...
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| zipjay
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South Williamson, KY | nope they just want everyone to buy the music, let noone hear it, copy it, duplicate it, enjoy it, or borrow it........ unless you pay them. | |
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White City, OR | You owe us Soon the RIAA/MPAA is going to try and bill us if we happen to hear/see copyrighted material being played in someone else’s (insert audio/vidio playing device here).
They will expect everyone to wear earplugs/eye covers 24x7 in order to avoid being prosecuted for illegally listening to copyrighted material.
Then they will shove tubes down our throat, directly interface to our brain, and plunge us into bathtubs full of thermal collecting goop, while we slip into a virtual world of their design, and control.
Ok so maybe not that last part just yet. | |
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Glendale, AZ | Re: You owe us said by yaplej:Soon the RIAA/MPAA is going to try and bill us if we happen to hear/see copyrighted material being played in someone else’s (insert audio/vidio playing device here). They will expect everyone to wear earplugs/eye covers 24x7 in order to avoid being prosecuted for illegally listening to copyrighted material. Then they will shove tubes down our throat, directly interface to our brain, and plunge us into bathtubs full of thermal collecting goop, while we slip into a virtual world of their design, and control. Ok so maybe not that last part just yet. Enter The Matrix.
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| | | No they will force you to declare the situations in which you want to play music at any time and estimate how many people will be able to hear it. Then make you pay a fee for every person. So listening with head phones will be a couple of bucks , and listening on a boom box at the beach will cost a few thousand dollars. | |
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| | f*cking morons i heard the guy next to me at a stoplight playing Eminem on his readio.............can i sue for that too? | |
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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kudos:4 | Re: f*cking morons said by rob_in_chatt:i heard the guy next to me at a stoplight playing Eminem on his readio.............can i sue for that too? he should be jailed just for having that crap playing. On a side note the RIAA should invest a little more time finding TALENT than harassing people for piracy.
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Twining, MI | stupid They are serously going beyond here. I can see the P2P network sharing of copyright content, but through videos? This is starting to get serously disgusting...
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| | Seem to be going too far here Yea, I do agree they seem to be going too far here. I do understand how things are copyrighted, but to punish people using a medium to express their love for a paticular song is pretty rediculous. Especially since its a medium where you can not download any of the content (its in a somewhat protected format)....and the fact that it isnt being sold either. They are just trying to alienate everyone. | |
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2 edits | Look on the good side Due to all of the publicity, 90% of internet users now know exactly where to get their free music.
Why don't we ever hear the RIAA talk about Usenet?
I presume that because of the RIAA a London UK radio station that I used to listen to Heart 102.6 has stopped broadcasting to USA IP addresses. Personally I feel quite disgusted about that situation. If I was stinking rich I might feel like starting a law suit over the situation. Listening to a radio staion over the internet is not even closely related to selling or trading songs on the internet. My listening is not reducing royalty to any artist by 1 cent.
Radio waves (at least short wave) reach the USA from all sorts of other countries so maybe the RIAA will get foreign stations to reduce their power if their radio waves are reaching the USA | |
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| | | Re: Look on the good side Why don't the look at IRC as long as they're looking at Usenet? Does this ancient technology completely baffle the cavemen running this organization.
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kudos:1 | Re: Look on the good side This is getting fucking out of control. We need to get rid of the RIAA and the MPAA, its the people gov right? | |
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| Re: Look on the good side I added a little bit after your post. This is what really ticks me off.
"Listening to a radio staion over the internet is not even closely related to selling or trading songs on the internet. My listening is not reducing royalty to any artist by 1 cent." | |
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| | dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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kudos:4 | said by GilbertMark:Why don't the look at IRC as long as they're looking at Usenet? Does this ancient technology completely baffle the cavemen running this organization. who would they go after? most of those servers are pwn3d boxes mainly in japan and korea due to liberal upload speed.
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said by doctorgrim:Hey, could you shut up about Usenet please. You're gonna blow our cover. Relax, he's not going to blow anything. RIAA/MPAA are very well aware of UseNet's existence. I believe they are also aware of the fact that aside from shutting down a few NZB indexing sites (only to have a few dozen new ones pop up to replace them), they can't do sh*t about it.
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| | dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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kudos:4 | said by doctorgrim:Hey, could you shutup about Usenet please. You're gonna blow our cover. Usenet is already on the radar but it technically is only text. its not until you put it together with a newsreader that makes it warez, crackz, mp3z or moviez. they sure are going after those indexing sites.
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| roamer1sticking it out at you
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Atlanta, GA | said by bgraham:Why don't we ever hear the RIAA talk about Usenet? Maybe because it's all pr0n and warez?  
I presume that because of the RIAA a London UK radio station that I used to listen to Heart 102.6 has stopped broadcasting to USA IP addresses. That's probably not the RIAA directly, but indirectly via rightsholders complaining. Too many old media companies still cling to demanding exclusive rights for a given country/city/whatever, a concept which doesn't make any sense on the Internet (it's rather easy to get around IP restrictions via proxies/VPNs/etc.) and makes life difficult for travelers, expats, and others who seek out non-local media for the truly local content (news, shows not aired in the local city/country, and so on) they offer.
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| my RIAA rant The RIAA seems to forget that amateurs dancing to copyrighted music is perfectly legal, under fair use laws. The amateurs in question are not SELLING their videos and trying to make a profit, so therefore the RIAA legally can not do anything about it. This would change if the dancers had an ad at the end of their video promoting their pay site or whatever, that would then be a violation of copyright law.
Of course when you have Congress in your pocket, you can pretty well do whatever you want, regardless of what the Constitution says... | |
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kudos:5 | Re: my RIAA rant said by King P: This would change if the dancers had an ad at the end of their video promoting their pay site or whatever, that would then be a violation of copyright law. Does YouTube have ads? If they do, then your comment about ads making it a copyright violation apply.
If the amateur just sent it to grandma then their would be no violation. But posting it to a commercial site with ads breaks the law.
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Wichita, KS | Re: my RIAA rant No. It doesn't because neither the site nor people posting the videos make a profit over the music. It all falls into fair use. Now if the makers of the videos were selling them as a product that would be different.
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| | | | | Re: my RIAA rant Absolutely right. Also if these people are just having some fun with copyrighted music they can claim they are doing a parody, which is also fair use. As a matter of fact they can do anything they want on these videos under fair use. They can even make money off of the copyrighted work, so long as they pay royalties.
The RIAA is grabbing at straws. Cease and desist letters are just a strong arm tactic that has as much legal standing as me banging on my neighbor's wall when they play their music too loud. | |
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| | | | | | Re: my RIAA rant Absolutely wrong.
- You Tube sells ads and makes a profit off the videos uploaded by users/viewers so there are commercial use issues.
- Most soundtrack/background use would not qualify as parody.
- Fair use is very arguable depending on the specifics.
As for the RIAA, this truly moves them into a whole new realm of stupidity. | |
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1 edit | What about talking on a cell phone and someone is playing a song off the stereo? is that illegal too? please, i propose a national FVCK the RIAA/MPAA day! | |
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terra | Re: What about said by Matsayz:talking on a cell phone and someone is playing a song off the stereo? is that illegal too? please, i propose a national FVCK the RIAA/MPAA day! unless you FVCK the politicians and lawmakers who are in the pockets of RIAA, MPAA and such organizations, nothing , other than ranting here and there, is possible.
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Atlanta, GA | said by Matsayz:talking on a cell phone and someone is playing a song off the stereo? is that illegal too? please, i propose a national FVCK the RIAA/MPAA day! If they do it intentionally -- say, as music on hold -- they are infringing if they haven't secured a license from ASCAP/BMI/etc. (and yes, I've dealt with this specific issue)
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kudos:1 | Tempted Im rather pissed at the moment, pissed enough to write a big long hate message and send it to webmaster@riaa.com. | |
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said by Jameson:I'm rather pissed at the moment, pissed enough to write a big long hate message and send it to webmaster@riaa.com. And what is that going to accomplish? IMO, absolutely nothing; they'll probably delete it without even reading it, or even worse, send cops to your door if the message contains any death threats.
If you REALLY want to make a difference, stop caring about their products. That includes, buying, downloading (both legally and illegally), listening to and watching. On top of it all, convince your family, friends, and as many others as you possibly can to do the same. Remember, the only language those scumbags at RIAA/MPAA understand is a language of money, so let's hit them where it hurts (their pockets) and hit them hard.
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| | | | Re: Tempted The problem is... all they will do is blame the loss of revenue on pirates... convince some idiots in congress they need even more protection so they can charge consumers even more... etc, etc, etc... | |
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| | | | Better yet don't give a rat's ass what the RIAA thinks and support the artists you like no matter who signed them on. What you're essentially saying is damn anybody connected to the labels that are part of the RIAA, but the thing is you are hurting the artists a lot more than some organization that likes to litigate rather than innovate.
Besides, as phantom put it, loss in revenue only give their argument validity. If the major label suffered a 20%-40% drop in sales in a single year you bet they will go to congress and lobby for some serious changes in copyright law. And because of your crusade they will get it. Best thing to do is buy what you want, let the record sales soar, and laugh at the RIAA for claiming P2P is killing the music industry. | |
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|  alphapointeDon't Touch MePremium,MVM
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| | WHAT IF What if im recording my kids on a camcorder and I happen to have it on mtv at the time. A music video is playing at same time. Will both the RIAA AND THE MPAA both come after me? | |
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| | So... The person buys a video camera, a cd with his favorite song and decides to make a cool video. RIAA says he's not allowed to play that song or any song i'm guessing while making a video.
How lame.
I can see whats coming next. After you purchase your new video camera, you will have to connect it to the internet so it can be configured by the RIAA/MPAA to have certain rights. | |
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|  yuduylPremium
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1 edit | Re: So... said by PunkGod:The person buys a video camera, a cd with his favorite song and decides to make a cool video. RIAA says he's not allowed to play that song or any song i'm guessing while making a video. If you plan on distributing that video on the internet or any other form you can get in trouble. However if you make a private video for viewing in your own home, (i.e. not for distribution, even for free.) then there is not much they can do. However, if you make a copy for a family member you can get in trouble.
Now if the music is just in the back ground and really not part of what is going on in the video, you might be ok. But, when they make a movie and there is a song playing in the back ground, the makers of that movie have to pay royalties for that song. Of course they plan on making money, but making money is not required for the RIAA to protect their clients property rights. If you were to post the video on youtube for public viewing then you would be gaining recognition for your work on the video. So would you like it if someone were to take the video you made, and were to do something with it to make money and not give you any? Or what if they used it in a manner you disliked. Oh and youtube sells advertising on their website. When users post their videos using other people’s music, then they are capitalizing on others copyrights. They are making money on others intellectual rights. So the point is, turn the TV off or mute it. (if it is a music video) Please note it would be better to turn it off because if you video tape the video you could get popped too.. lol | |
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| | | | Re: So... I see the same contention with P2P regarding this as well. That is not for profit distribution that doesn't affect the livelihood of the artist in question is still deemed not to be copyright infringement. The RIAA hasn't gotten a significant victory on any individual sharing music online. I see even less success trying to get a judgement against a video of little Timmy's birthday party that happens to have Celene Dion playing in the background. | |
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1 edit | I'm not surprised Remember years ago, when the Girl Scouts were sued? Somehow the RIAA was informed that at the camps, the girls were singing around the campfire. Singing *copyrighted* songs. Now I believe that the Girl Scouts have effectively banned music from any of their functions.
Actually, I believe it was a recruitment video. And I think the song was 'This Land Is Your Land'. | |
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| roamer1sticking it out at you
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Atlanta, GA | Re: I'm not surprised said by richk_1957:Remember years ago, when the Girl Scouts were sued? Somehow the RIAA was informed that at the camps, the girls were singing around the campfire. Singing *copyrighted* songs. Now I believe that the Girl Scouts have effectively banned music from any of their functions. Actually, I believe it was a recruitment video. And I think the song was 'This Land Is Your Land'. Restaurants and "Happy Birthday" is one thing, but this is beyond ridiculous.
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kudos:25 | said by richk_1957:Remember years ago, when the Girl Scouts were sued? Somehow the RIAA was informed that at the camps, the girls were singing around the campfire. Singing *copyrighted* songs. Now I believe that the Girl Scouts have effectively banned music from any of their functions. Actually, I believe it was a recruitment video. And I think the song was 'This Land Is Your Land'. Might have been "row, row, your boat". When I first read that story I emailed my congressman. I actually got a reply. He didn't like it either and was 'looking into it'. Nothing happened since. | |
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| | | said by richk_1957:Actually, I believe it was a recruitment video. And I think the song was 'This Land Is Your Land'. How ironic.  | |
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Calgary, AB | What's Next? Virtual hired thugs kicking down doors...conducting strip searches looking for bootleg material??
Oh crap, that's already happening! | |
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| | RIAA blows. Gestapo is what the RIAA is turning into. They're out of control. Remember, they're nothing but ambulance chasers so what do you expect from these rabid dogs. | |
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