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join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA | Its a lawless town, in D.C. Time to acknowledge a Commie States of America.  | |
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Sortofadog
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join:2000-05-11
Chicago, IL | Re: Its a lawless town, in D.C. The FCC rarely enforces their own rules these days. Why does anyone think they'd take this one on?
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join:2001-08-17
Wheeling, IL | Re: Its a lawless town, in D.C. One of these days, they'll have to do something.  | |
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Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| said by RadioDoc  :The FCC rarely enforces their own rules these days. Well, maybe if we say that there's boobies being shown by the NSA, we'll have some FCC action.  | |
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Sortofadog
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Chicago, IL | Re: Its a lawless town, in D.C. Now there's an idea. I think you could clearly illustrate that the number of boobs in this fiasco is a threat to the very moral fabric of our society.
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join:2002-01-30
Mesa, AZ | Re: Its a lawless town, in D.C. A true LOL moment. | |
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join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA
| said by AquaBlaze :said by RadioDoc :The FCC rarely enforces their own rules these days. Well, maybe if we say that there's boobies being shown by the NSA, we'll have some FCC action. Most of the people in the NSA, as well as the entire government, ARE boobs. Shouldn't that count for something? | |
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cob_
1310nm Of Goodness
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join:2003-07-08
Tulsa, OK
| said by AquaBlaze :said by RadioDoc :The FCC rarely enforces their own rules these days. Well, maybe if we say that there's boobies being shown by the NSA, we'll have some FCC action. Sad, but true. | |
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| | lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL
| As much as I dislike most of what the FCC does, I think the commissioner is right.
If you are going to make an allegation that the NSA is illegally plying their trade domestically it would have to be heard in the FISA court since they are the only judiciary with the necessary clearances. If the FISA court determines it does involve national security you likely won't hear anything about it.
I also think this has turned into a debate that can't be won by either side just like the debate on the existence of UFOs. Even if this makes it into the courts and the courts find it didn't happen, some will continue to believe the call records were turned over, simply because they are partisan or they don't trust the government.
On the other hand if the law was really broken and there is proof that extends beyond hearsay and innuendo, those responsible should be held to account. | |
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join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
| Re: Its a lawless town, in D.C. said by lesopp :As much as I dislike most of what the FCC does, I think the commissioner is right. If you are going to make an allegation that the NSA is illegally plying their trade domestically it would have to be heard in the FISA court since they are the only judiciary with the necessary clearances. If the FISA court determines it does involve national security you likely won't hear anything about it. I also think this has turned into a debate that can't be won by either side just like the debate on the existence of UFOs. Even if this makes it into the courts and the courts find it didn't happen, some will continue to believe the call records were turned over, simply because they are partisan or they don't trust the government. On the other hand if the law was really broken and there is proof that extends beyond hearsay and innuendo, those responsible should be held to account. I think the Dems will win in this one by continuing to talk about it. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely a complete violation of constiutional authority. | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | All the FCC cares about is boobies. | |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL | A good picture of USA, Inc. 
When in doubt as to the legality, slap "top secret" on it! | |
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AthlGrond
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
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| Re: A good picture of USA, Inc. Glenn, you need to keep track of more things to keep it interesting.
You could double dip and keeping score on how many news posts on a given day until there is one that is bashing an administration program (or alleged program) or abuse (or alleged abuse), and then count the number of comments until there is a Bush rant.
Or triple dip: and count the number of news posts until a news post involving 1) a law suite 2) a program or abuse of the Bush administration (alleged or otherwise), and 3) a Bush bash.
Perhaps you could make a rating system using smileys? | |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
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| Re: Its a lawless town, in D.C. said by GhostDoggy :Time to acknowledge a Commie Corporate States of America. Edited your post to reflect the reality of the
situation. It is no longer government by the people,
of the people and for the people, but rather by the
corporation, of the corporation, and for the corporation.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Its a lawless town, in D.C. I'll agree with that statement...
Corporations pretty much rule the U.S. through PAC
its a governement by the PAC/lobbyiests of the corporation and for the shareholders | |
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Jigsaw
Stardust We Are
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join:2000-10-21
Cleveland, OH
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| Re: Its a lawless town, in D.C. said by nixen :said by GhostDoggy :Time to acknowledge a Commie States of America. Umm... Far from "commie". More accurate would be the "Corporate/Fascist States of America". -tom That about Sums it up i just go with FSA it has a ring to it don't it.Really its just getting stupid both party's are Whores and crooks.Yet people just let em go on sticking the dick to em.
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs: | So.... The FCC charged with enforcing the law, is not going to investigate into something which may have broken laws? There is no logic in that statement. | |
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| TheWickerMan
join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA | Re: So.... They're too busy going after the really serious infractions, like flashing a boob on TV. I thought everyone knew that. | |
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tsu
join:2001-08-17
Wheeling, IL | Re: So.... Boobies = CA$H.
Spying = Not-CA$H | |
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| Re: So.... said by tsu :Boobies = CA$H. Spying = Not-CA$H Boobies and/or Spying = Their Job
Why do we have these nimrods around if they won't perform the function they serve? | |
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SilenceGold
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join:2003-07-31
Sherwood, AR | Break the law...get away with it...how? details here.. Coming soon. | |
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P Ness
You'Ve Forgotten 9-11 Already
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join:2001-08-29
Cromwell, CT
clubs: 
| WOW we might acutally have to work And be held accountable for results..
NA, lets do nothing and cow tow to corporate america, its easier.
i am still waiting for people to be fired for Katrina, Iraq, 9/11, ect...no one is ever held accountable.
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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join:2003-02-13
Mission Viejo, CA
clubs:
| Obfuscate and Cry National Security It's another snow job in this matter - I thought the telcos brought obfuscation to an art form but they don't have anything over FCC shithead Martin. But you can bet the farm that if this had anything to do with Janet Jackson's tittie on TV then he'd be all over it like white on rice.
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anonposter
@optonline.net | What does this mean? This means lawlessness will rise.
If they can "get away with it, what can't i"
Thus will be the mentality.
Hang on it's going to get REALLY bumpy. | |
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anonposter
@optonline.net | Security Clearance Does a town or state cop have the "security clearance" to search my trunk..
Doesn't look like it huh..! | |
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rudnicke
Premium
join:2004-10-23
Rantoul, IL
clubs: | I HATE Kevin Martin! I am so sick of Kevin Martin. He's nothing but an incompetent jerk. I hope he actually reads this because then he would know how much I HATE HIM! | |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL | Re: I HATE Kevin Martin! Kevin Martin is probably the biggest idiot at the FCC. Have you ever seen him? He looks like Raphy all grown up but without the brains. | |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs: | Well Duh The FCC is part of the government. The government is not going to invest agate its self. | |
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Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| Re: Well Duh said by batterup :The FCC is part of the government. The government is not going to invest agate its self. Hasn't the government been required to do so in the face of their own illegal actions in the past? | |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs: | Re: Well Duh Not when the political party that does wrong is in charge of the White House, both houses of congress and the Supreme Court. The US of A now has a King. | |
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dslextreme
Premium,VIP
join:2001-02-23
Canoga Park, CA |  The FCC was appointed by the administration
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arnoldc
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join:2002-08-07
Kodak, TN
| No Oversight If FCC will not do its oversight function and the U.S. Congress will not, then I guess the telecoms can become an extension of the administration or is it the reverse. Why is Congress concerned when Google is helping the Chinese government intercept people wanting to express free will when our own government is doing the same?  | |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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| DISBAND the FCC! I said this before many times, now you guys have to admit: there's no fix for FCC, it should be disbanded.
Let's start again fresh, a new approach can't hurt - thigs are already gone awry, we can't lose anything with this crooked, fully corrupt corporate-servant FCC circus. | |
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA
| Re: DISBAND the FCC! said by kamm :I said this before many times, now you guys have to admit: there's no fix for FCC, it should be disbanded.Let's start again fresh, a new approach can't hurt - thigs are already gone awry, we can't lose anything with this crooked, fully corrupt corporate-servant FCC circus. The technical/engineering departments of the FCC need to be spun off into a new agency and actually staffed with technical people. They would be concerned with technical specifications, frequency allocations, and technology. Then nuke what remained of the FCC and create a non-partisan agency that is run by ten commissioners with equal numbers from both parties. This agency would be concerned with competition, markets, boobies, etc. Have the commissioners chosen by drawing straws or picking names out of a hat. Anything has to be better than the President appointing commissioners. | |
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pokesph
It Is Almost Fast
join:2001-06-25
Sacramento, CA
clubs: | gov investigation? just get Jack Bauer (or someone who uses the same methods) to do an investigation.. | |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | Ahhh... Gotta love election year politics. Markey doesn't give a crap about AT&T's customers, only scoring political points this fall. | |
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Techman21
join:2005-04-14
Richmond, VA
| Eh... Why are you blaming Bush when its you the people who voted for these retards? Myself included.
Not that I ever expected any of what is going on now to happen, but it is. I for one will be looking into each candidate around the next election much more closely. And its not like the Dems put up much of a competition. I mean hell there's been talk of Hillary trying to run for office. All she could ride on is the name Clinton and that isn't saying much.
Alas, it is not about 1 person anyways. Its about Congress. Congress pulls all the strings regardless of who's in office. If they want something passed they can override the president, veto or no. | |
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Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| Re: Eh... said by Techman21 :I for one will be looking into each candidate around the next election much more closely. And its not like the Dems put up much of a competition. I mean hell there's been talk of Hillary trying to run for office. All she could ride on is the name Clinton and that isn't saying much. I dunno, but at this point, simply not being the current sitting incumbant-boob is a plus for me. | |
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join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | Actually, half of us didn't. And I mean, half of the people that did actually vote. | |
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join:2001-12-07
Philadelphia, PA
| Re: Eh... said by Ahrenl :And I mean, half of the people that did actually vote. ...and that's really the saddest part of all. | |
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join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
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| Re: FCC not tasked to do criminal investigations said by TK Junk Mail :The FCC's mandate doesn't include undertaking criminal investigations. That is the job of the Justice Department. Aw, you beat me to it. The FCC is controlled by Congress, which has no authority for law enforcement. The executive branch of government is where law enforcement resides. Markey's (ed, sp) statement is pure BS.
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join:2001-06-21
Houston, TX
| Hmmm. I found this at »www.fcc.gov/eb/
The Enforcement Bureau is the primary organizational unit within the Federal Communications Commission that is responsible for enforcement of provisions of the Communications Act, the Commission's rules, Commission orders and terms and conditions of station authorizations. Major areas of enforcement that are handled by the Enforcement Bureau are: (1) consumer protection enforcement; (2) local competition enforcement; and (3) public safety/homeland security enforcement. The FCC certainly has it in their power to investigate. | |
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| bemenaker
join:2006-05-24
Cincinnati, OH
| Uhm, you are flat wrong in saying the FCC has no enforcement powers. Everything under the FCC guidelines, the FCC has the legal jurisdiction to enforce. In fact, the FCC has the most enforcement powers of any agency in the gov't. One thing you learn early on in getting a Ham radio license is, there is no hiding from the FCC. They will go to other countries to chase you down. | |
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | . interesting guess we got to wait till midterm elections to see if a power shift can't shake up the investigation | |
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Big_Goose_Egg
@co.cr | Two Faced What's Good for the Goose is Apparently Not Good for the Gander... :-p | |
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jdir
join:2001-05-04
Santa Clara, CA | Start download zillions of junk Let the NSA buy more hard drives !!! | |
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SuperDave1685
@usmc.mil
| wow... Kevin Martin is nothing but a bold faced liar.... What a flimsy punk... He doesn't beleive in anything except what his cronies tell him to believe.... Kinda like how Brown (Former FEMA head) had no backbone when Katrina hit... The federal gov't is really starting to piss me off.... | |
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FCC Won't Investigate AT&T/NSA Allegations
FCC not tasked to do criminal investigations