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Shiny 300Mbps goodness?
(old news - 11:24AM Monday May 01 2006)
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After the launch of the Linksys WRT300N last week, more first draft 802.11n gear is hitting the market soon from Belkin. The company has announced their N1 line of gear based on Atheros XSPAN chipsets, set to hit store shelves on June 1. The $150 N1 Wireless Router (F5D8231-4), the $100 N1 Wireless Notebook Card (F5D8011), and/or $120 N1 Wireless Desktop Card (F5D8001) promises to deliver throughput up to 300Mbps (probably really delivering half-that).

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felixml

join:2003-02-19
Sherman Oaks, CA

Really the BEST!!!

Belkin Pre-N router is BY FAR the best there is.
Best security, the only one for me and my clients

tcp1
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Herndon, VA

Re: Really the BEST!!!

So, what becomes of the Pre-N routers, like the F5D8230? Firmware upgrade possible to draft 802.11n? Any word from Belkin? I can't find it..
felixml

join:2003-02-19
Sherman Oaks, CA

Re: Really the BEST!!!

I do not upgrade anything that works well.
(MSFT is a different story)
And they do work exceptionally well.
Why bother?

tcp1
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Re: Really the BEST!!!

I see your point -- but I guess I better go buy up a few Pre-N
NICs, since they're probably not too long for this world..

user12345123

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How or why is Belkin better?

DaSneaky1D
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Re: Really the BEST!!!

said by user12345123 :

How or why is Belkin better?
It's not even worth asking that question. His post is totally unqualified. Similar post of his are of the same type. He likes Belkin, so you should too. That's about the extent of that reasoning.
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claykin

join:2003-08-22
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Current Belkin Pre-N is based on Airgo chipsets. This new draft N prouct is based on an Atheros chipset. Your continued satisfaction mileage may vary!!!
vinnie97

join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX
Not so for V2000 of the routers...in fact, very far from the truth with their poorly implemented firewall code that treats valid traffic as ATTACKS even when DISABLED.

fartness
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Will this pre-N make it so whenever I use the microwave oven or the phone, I will not get booted from the net (or one but not the other)? Or should I just buy 802.11a for that?
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bnetdog

join:2003-07-21
Alamo, CA

what happened to dlink, netgear and buffalo N products?

I heard about a week or two ago that dlink,netgear and buffalo were releasing wireless-N products. What happened to those hitting the store shelves? I see that both netgear and dlink have them listed under their products, but I cannot find them on any online stores. Any word on these?
felixml

join:2003-02-19
Sherman Oaks, CA

Re: what happened to dlink, netgear and buffalo N products?

most stores do NOT have them yet.
Buy a Pre-N Belkin, no need to wait

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said by bnetdog See Profile :

I heard about a week or two ago that dlink,netgear and buffalo were releasing wireless-N products. What happened to those hitting the store shelves? I see that both netgear and dlink have them listed under their products, but I cannot find them on any online stores. Any word on these?
It takes a while to fill the pipes to the retail outlets. All those wireless routers have to be built and then shipped over from China to get in the stores. Give it a few weeks, then they should start to appear.
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Okman

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I'll wait a year

for them to work out the bugs
majortom1981

join:2004-08-26
Lindenhurst, NY

Pre-n is good

I bought my gf a netgear pre-n card.

Pre-n equipment is awesome. always full speed on a 802.11g router. Always full signal.

The bad part is that I bought a netgear card. their driversd are horrid and like to conk out on dell laptops.

Anyway once the belkin products come out ill buy them in an instant.

If the n spec products are better then the pre-n spec ones then It will be awesome

imtim83
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join:2001-06-03
Kenner, LA

The beginning of ...

Thats the beginning of hurricane season! Sure hope they have alot of extras

FiL
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join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD

Im coppin' one too...

Nothing like a good ole, reliable piece of Belkin. Im pretty sure I can crap on my wireless usb, wipe my ass with the router, flush both pieces down the toilet, go to the sewage treatment facility, reclaim my waste, wash them in clorine BLEACH, plug em and STILL have em working in tip-top shape.

FiL
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join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD

Re: Im coppin' one too...

as a matter of fact, I wouldnt even have to wipe off my fecal matter; it'd serve as a secondary physical firewall against my envoius buddies.

Im also a firm believe in, if it works, and works, and you try to f'it-up, but it still works, stick with the company. THATS how you gain customer loyalty. Plus their products are cheap in price compared to the bogus Netgears and Linksys plug and pray your first click doesnt demolish your pc products.
felixml

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It's not even worth asking that question. His post is totally unqualified. Similar post of his are of the same type. He likes Belkin, so you should too. That's about the extent of that reasoning.

Just to trash this statement.

I install networks for major corporations, AND run a Consulting firm for 25+ YEARS (51 MCSEs and Cisco certs).
WE NOT ONLY TEST ALL AVAILABLE ROUTERS under very stringent conditions, but also use them ourselves in our own houses before recommending to anyone.
So that is all I have to say about that...

FiL
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Re: Im coppin' one too...

Owned?

Yea, Owned.

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said by felixml See Profile :

It's not even worth asking that question. His post is totally unqualified. Similar post of his are of the same type. He likes Belkin, so you should too. That's about the extent of that reasoning.

Just to trash this statement.

I install networks for major corporations, AND run a Consulting firm for 25+ YEARS (51 MCSEs and Cisco certs).
WE NOT ONLY TEST ALL AVAILABLE ROUTERS under very stringent conditions, but also use them ourselves in our own houses before recommending to anyone.
So that is all I have to say about that...
I have my own "validations" I could throw around, but I won't because it serves no purpose. Aside from the name dropping...Your previous posts never amounted to anything except "I use them, so you use them too". Your other recent post here at DSLR are nothing much more than the same thing. I simply called you out on it.

If you're a supporter of Belkin products, fine. I have no problem with it. But when you start spouting off biases without any supporting evidence, the post becomes useless.
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majortom1981

join:2004-08-26
Lindenhurst, NY

Re: Im coppin' one too...

I just wish another company would come out with a 802.11n router with a gigabit switch in it.

The netgear 802.11n has a gigabit switch in it.

I have had nothing but bad luck with any Netgear product. they all have great features but horrid support.

toadlife
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said by felixml See Profile :

I install networks for major corporations, AND run a Consulting firm for 25+ YEARS (51 MCSEs and Cisco certs).
WE NOT ONLY TEST ALL AVAILABLE ROUTERS under very stringent conditions, but also use them ourselves in our own houses before recommending to anyone.
So that is all I have to say about that...
I usually don't chime in, but comon. No real company, much less MAJOR company, should install consumer grade gear. Most MAJOR companies are going after (and you should be referring) to the CISCO series wireless routers (800's, 1800's) due the IOS, integration, QoS, expandability, security, modularity and industry standards. Yea, Cisco owns Linksys...but jeez

...what consulting company is that you run that I'll be avoiding??
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bignate

join:2005-12-05
Austin, TX

300mbps?

hey,

can anyone tell me this: why does anyone need a 300 mbps wireless router? who on this board has a 300 meg connecttion that they need a wireless router that can do the same?
Cel Blade

join:2006-03-03
Anacortes, WA

Re: 300mbps?

said by bignate See Profile :

hey,

can anyone tell me this: why does anyone need a 300 mbps wireless router? who on this board has a 300 meg connecttion that they need a wireless router that can do the same?
Are you kidding me? Routers aren't for Internet solely, they use them for file transfer between local PCs.
bignate

join:2005-12-05
Austin, TX

Re: 300mbps?

i understand that but i guess the 50 meg 802.11g isnt fast enough?

making a bunch of transfers in the hundreds of gigs are we?
Cel Blade

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May 1st, @03:02PM

Re: 300mbps?

said by bignate See Profile :

i understand that but i guess the 50 meg 802.11g isnt fast enough?

making a bunch of transfers in the hundreds of gigs are we?
50 megs isn't enough if you have a Gigabit NIC in the PC you're trying to transfer with, because the wireless device is a bottleneck, 300 fills it much better. Plus if the NIC in the PC is 10/100, you actually outdo the NIC with a wireless PC.
t968rs

join:2004-10-24
Cincinnati, OH

since when has technology stopped advancing when we no longer "needed" it to be any better? Faster file transfers lead to greater capability to transfer larger files over networks, faster and since it's wireless, hopefully with greater mobility. This is the future.

I want to be able to download HD movies to my laptop and upload them to my Apple mini, where I can view them on my HDTV before my friend can click "Purchase now" on his Pay-Per-View...that's just my ideal

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May 1st, @03:18PM

Precisely what damn business is it of yours what anyone else needs / wants?

Really. It's fantastic that you use your computer for nothing else than checking sports scores and sending greeting cards.

Other people use them for work. I do video production; 30 minutes of DV video is 7 gigs.

So, if you're just playing web poker and browsing CNN, 802.11b will suit you just fine. I find such computer use habits quaint. Cute, really.

It's kinda insulting that you're insuating there's something wrong with anyone who transfers something more than a 4 meg PPT file. (Please don't pretend you weren't implying something.)

It's the same kind of attitude that kept most of this country at 1.5mbps broadband speeds until 2004.

P.S. Welcome to the Internet!
bignate

join:2005-12-05
Austin, TX

Re: 300mbps?

hey man,

you dont have to be so aggresive. i wasn't saying nobody should have it, i was just curious how many people would actually have a use for it.

i mean the 2 minute transfer time difference between the 50 meg and 300 meg on your 7 gig video seems to be a serious issue for you. i mean it takes at the very least 30 minutes to create the video then i wouldnt think the 2 minute upload time would be a big problem.

the only big thing to me is that this is short range wireless, since you have to be withing a few hundred feet(and even closer if you actually want the high speed) it seems like gigbit ethernet would be a better way to go for work applications if you care that much about the high speed.

i do know a little something about high data rates though. i provision high speed data networks for AT&T from 56k frame relay to ATM OC12's. and i am also into high end online gaming and video and music downloads, when i can break away from checking the sports scores and sending all my greeting cards....
pabster

join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA
Get a clue.

"G" promises 54Mbps but in the real world is lucky to deliver 25-30Mbps.

"N" is likely to be similar. 300Mbps? Right. More like 100Mbps - albeit a significant boost...
athlon770

join:2006-04-17
Washington, IL

the question that should be asked is, ok, 300mbps wireless connection to the router, then what, it is still a 100mbps LAN connection. Hello, this thing on, anyone else see the problem here? Maybe this can be justified if the unit has a gigbit connection to the LAN, but everything I have found so far shows 10/100, NOT 10/100/1000! So you want fast wireless from the router to the pc, but after that, where are you going to see it. All I hear is a bunch of noise, and is sounds like a herd of sheep!

pnh102
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Is it just me or did all these manufacturers have a race to see who could stick the most protruding antennas onto their products? Setting these things up looks like it might be quite painful!
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majortom1981

join:2004-08-26
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The antenas are there for a reason

The antenas are required by the n -spec.

Trust me when you use n equipment you wont turn back.

I have used it. Not fully. I have used a 802.11n card on a 802.11g router.

I get full 802.11g speeds with full signal strenth anywhere in my house with the 802.11n card.

This is a pre-n card but just about the same.

If the New belkin n stuff is even better then it is awesome

The only thing is the netgear 802.11n router has gigabit ports on the switch. It stinks because netgear has horrid driver support.

FiL
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Silver Spring, MD

heh

The Belkin's even look better...those guys are on a roll.
majortom1981

join:2004-08-26
Lindenhurst, NY

Why cant the belkin n router have a gigabit switch

why is it the worst networking company in the world has a 802.11n router with a gigabit switch and the others don't?
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