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San Antonio, TX | Upload Please Download speeds are nice but for the love of all that is Holy...give us more upload. 1 Mbps would be nice. | |
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Margate City, NJ
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| Re: Upload Please said by Blonco  :Download speeds are nice but for the love of all that is Holy...give us more upload. 1 Mbps would be nice. Very high prices for download. But no upload increases?? I couldn't find any info on what the upload speeds would be in the news article. Anyone have info on that?
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join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA | Upload are as follow:
10/384
15/512
30/768
lol.
what a stingy corporation. sucks doesn't it?
That's terrible!!! I"m sticking with SBC pro at 3.0/512
for a mere 21.99 for the next 6 months.
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Supreme Ideology
join:2004-11-14
Atlanta, GA
| Re: Upload Please said by attsbcisgay :Upload are as follow: 10/384 15/512 30/768 lol. what a stingy corporation. sucks doesn't it? That's terrible!!! I"m sticking with SBC pro at 3.0/512 for a mere 21.99 for the next 6 months. RR can go to hell. That upload is a joke. Should be like this.
10/1
15/2
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Glamour Profession
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join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY
| Re: Upload Please said by Newegg :said by attsbcisgay :Upload are as follow: 10/384 15/512 30/768 lol. what a stingy corporation. sucks doesn't it? That's terrible!!! I"m sticking with SBC pro at 3.0/512 for a mere 21.99 for the next 6 months. RR can go to hell. That upload is a joke. Should be like this. 10/1 15/2 30/5 That's garbage. I'd rather have my 3/768 than their 15/512, just on general principle. All that money for the package and they're still so far behind.
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Kompressor
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Huntington Beach, CA | FiOS runs at:
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join:2004-07-23
Overland Park, KS
| That is a JOKE! I was about to post a sourcastic remark that it would be 10/384, but its for real?!? You got to bit kidding me? This is why I left RR for Cyberonic about 18 months ago. I can get 6/768 dry line with Cyberonic. My god, you must get 30 meg down service for $200 to get 768 up?!? WTF | |
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pcscdma
Chocobo Chocobo Random Battle
Premium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA
clubs: | That's worse than Mediacom's 20:1 ratio
5000/256
Youn might be able to get a UDP stream going at 30mb, but the ACKs for TCP will completely saturate the upload. | |
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join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
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| said by attsbcisgay :Upload are as follow: 10/384 15/512 30/768 lol. what a stingy corporation. sucks doesn't it? That's terrible!!! I"m sticking with SBC pro at 3.0/512 for a mere 21.99 for the next 6 months. RR can go to hell. That is terrible. Simply downloading would saturate any uplad stream on that type of connection.
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Hi. Cram It.
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join:2001-06-23
Long Beach, CA | Well try having Charter, we are still stuck at 3/256. And what backwater am I in, you may ask?
Los Angeles.
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join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY
| Here's the quote that shows you how totally out of touch the executives are..
"Although Xtreme's monthly rates of up to $200 likely put the service out of most consumers' price range, Henry said people with home offices, executives looking to connect to their corporate networks and die-hard online gamers will be interested."
1) A home office needs to be able to run services (mail or web or etc). All those are blocked in the home networks.
2) Executives looking to connect their corporate network require synchronous speeds. 30mb/.76mb is pointless for a home office worker. (and it violates their terms of service)
3) Die Hard Gamers care about ping times. 30mb is pointless, they just need pings.
Just for fun, "Right now most consumers are satisfied with regular broadband," Atlanta-based telecom analyst Jeff Kagan said. "That's fine for what they use the Internet for. But it's not going to be that way forever. At some point, consumers will be doing things like downloading whole movies." Well, DUH, we already DO download movies, music, tvshows, etc, pretty much everything digital.
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Stardust We Are
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Cleveland, OH
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| Re: Upload Please said by G_Poobah :3) Die Hard Gamers care about ping times. 30mb is pointless, they just need pings. Forget the Bling WE want the Pings:p.Really like you said having 30 meg will do nothing for a gamer.Now maybe say a 1 or 2 meg upload may help out a little thou.
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join:2002-06-27
San Diego, CA
| This is a part of the point of the original corporate planned roll-out for residential 'internet'. It was to be as a means for offering products and services via a high speed network. It wasn't intended as a means for the end user to UPLOAD HUGE AMOUNTS OF DATA.
Your role is to use your remote control and order whatever is being sold through the TV. It doesn't take much bandwidth to send a product order request. The bandwidth would be reserved for the movie coming down the pipe.
So basically, they will provide a system that is adequate for receiving entertainment. Not any bandwidth intensive applications originating from the home. | |
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| You obviously don't know much about TWC then because TWC isn't that harsh on people running servers or FTP or mail. They are probably the most loose when it comes to this. They do not block all those ports. In fact, they DO monitor the network and when servers are found, at most usually, they call up and ask what they are using the servers for. If the useage isn't tearing up the node, they move along.
And additionally, a home office does not always need to be able to run mail or web services on their connection. TWC offers that service on their hosted networks if needed. | |
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raye
Premium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA | and 512 kbps upload? You folks at broadband reports and/or the other journalists reporting on this need to include upload info. TWC is turning theri Internet access into another TV set for the home, all download, no upload. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
| Re: and 512 kbps upload? said by raye :You folks at broadband reports and/or the other journalists reporting on this need to include upload info. The average customer doesn't know, nor care, about upload rates. Even my local TW's website doesn't list the upload rate (without digging for it). They talk about "Great news! Road Runner just got FASTER! With speeds up to 5.0 Mbps, it's the fastest residential speed in the area!" and "You now have a choice to go even faster with Road Runner Premium. With speeds as fast as 8.0 Mbps down". Put "upload" in their search box and you get NO results. | |
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join:2001-02-22
Kennesaw, GA
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| Re: and 512 kbps upload? said by Hall :said by raye :You folks at broadband reports and/or the other journalists reporting on this need to include upload info. The average customer doesn't know, nor care, about upload rates. Even my local TW's website doesn't list the upload rate (without digging for it). They talk about "Great news! Road Runner just got FASTER! With speeds up to 5.0 Mbps, it's the fastest residential speed in the area!" and "You now have a choice to go even faster with Road Runner Premium. With speeds as fast as 8.0 Mbps down". Put "upload" in their search box and you get NO results. That's kind of shady.. Scam.. Hoax. It's evil. | |
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join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | hopefully in 5 years all highspeed broadband will be at least 15mps for under 49.99 I can only pray | |
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MacFan Pro
Premium
join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE | Re: hopefully in 5 years all highspeed broadband 15 Megs download speed under 49.99. Be patient.
15 Megs upload speed under 49.99. Keep praying.
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join:2001-10-23
Akron, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
| nothing new... it's the same old thing. how much you wanna bet that the UL is still a sh!tty 384Kbps (1/3Mbps! ooh!!)? TW doesn't get it. the US broadband scene doesn't get it. we're not even top-ten worldwide in broadband and this is why. stop increasing DL; it's useless to have 30Mbps. what is it good for? seriously! put some effort into UL improvements and i'll pay $70/mo.
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join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH | Cost... $200 a month for residential internet service.... Somehow I don't see too many people jumping at that.... | |
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join:2004-06-05
Ste Anne, MB | Re: Cost... You would be surprised at how many folks have more money than brains!  | |
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join:2004-09-30
San Antonio, TX | Re: Cost... a fool and his money are always welcome | |
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CableTool
Poorly Representing MYSELF.
Premium
join:2004-11-12 | Low Uploads = Bandwidth control Low uploads are pretty much the only thing keeping people from becoming a server.... | |
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join:2001-10-23
Akron, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Low Uploads = Bandwidth control i got news for you, we're all operating servers. the scale is all you're specifying and why shouldn't i be allowed to UL fast if the technology exists and i'm willing to pay? i want more than 1Mbps up though or it's not worth it.
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join:2001-10-23
Akron, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Low Uploads = Bandwidth control did you post here or not? you do send email with attachments right? ok maybe not mail but you've uploaded something in the past month right? the point is upload=server, download=servee. the future most definitely holds a bounty of media across trusted machines. we'll be swapping more than simple 3MB mp3's... home videos, real CD .wav audio, digital pics for example. on a petty 512 connection this stuff can take hours.
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@208.17.x.x | Re: Low Uploads = Bandwidth control TomaTO ToMAto.
Just posting here does not make a server. A server 'serves' as in web pages for people connecting to your 'server'
Sending mail and uploading stuff is just that - uploading.
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join:2001-10-23
Akron, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Low Uploads = Bandwidth control it's serving with a middleman- the 'legal server' between. i agree, it's not a warez ftp box but your PC is still serving files to another remote location, and utilizing most if not all your UL capacity.
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Premium
join:2003-08-10
038xx
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Low Uploads = Bandwidth control You're fabricating meaning. A 'server' is a program or device designed to accept connections initiated by others for the purpose of supplying the requester with data of some sort. Technically, BitTorrent and several other p2p apps are functioning as servers. Other common residential traffic - mail, ftp puts, web-posts, etc. - are all client-based because they are initiating the request. The fact that requests for service involves upstream traffic means nothing.
It's the restaurant model: the customer (client) dictates what transactions occur and when. The server may refuse certain items, may set fixed terms of transaction, may kick you out of the restaurant, but never gets to decide what the client eats. One is in the proactive role (client), the other a reactive role (server). | |
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join:2001-10-23
Akron, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Low Uploads = Bandwidth control point taken. but the original point here is that we need more UL, not DL. i don't know what it is with US ISP's but most all of them just don't get it- all the consumer technology i've described (music, photos, movies) is pretty much useless with poor upstream to share it with others.
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Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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| Re: Low Uploads = Bandwidth control said by kba4 :point taken. but the original point here is that we need more UL, not DL. i don't know what it is with US ISP's but most all of them just don't get it- all the consumer technology i've described (music, photos, movies) is pretty much useless with poor upstream to share it with others. And if it's warez, it's illegal to begin with. Most specifically, movie and music. Yes, people upload home made movies, but really, how often? No where near the amount of pirated material. And how big are photos the average human sends? Not very big. While fast uploads would be great, the only thing I really do is upload files to a game server, some of the files are big, not to big as to take hours to upload. | |
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join:2001-10-23
Akron, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Low Uploads = Bandwidth control old thread time...lol
so should i take it you fall into the camp that agrees if you have nothing to hide, let the NSA (odd how that sounds like 'nazi' when spoken as a word heh) tap your conversations, etc.?
my point from the beginning is this: if we had higher UL, we'd send more movies and pics (legitimate and pirated, who cares if you're willing to be held accountable). the low capacity if our 'broadband' UL does inspire better compression algorithms, however, and i suppose that is one positive outcome of it all. but in the end i'd rather listen to full CD-quality 1440Kbps audio from the CD than a 320Kbps mp3 if i have the right to do so and our current broadband offerings in non-FIOS communities simply do not allow this reality.
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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| Re: Low Uploads = Bandwidth control said by kba4 :old thread time...lol so should i take it you fall into the camp that agrees if you have nothing to hide, let the NSA (odd how that sounds like 'nazi' when spoken as a word heh) tap your conversations, etc.? my point from the beginning is this: if we had higher UL, we'd send more movies and pics (legitimate and pirated, who cares if you're willing to be held accountable). the low capacity if our 'broadband' UL does inspire better compression algorithms, however, and i suppose that is one positive outcome of it all. but in the end i'd rather listen to full CD-quality 1440Kbps audio from the CD than a 320Kbps mp3 if i have the right to do so and our current broadband offerings in non-FIOS communities simply do not allow this reality. No, I don't fall into that camp, I used to download and so forth, I don't anymore. It's not worth the hassle. And as far as the government spying, I am totally against that, if they feel they have something, they should have to get a search warranty just like anyone else. If they can prove it, great, if not, GTFO. | |
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RadioDoc
Sortofadog
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| said by CableTool :Low uploads are pretty much the only thing keeping people from becoming a server.... Well then, how about building the network so it doesn't unravel when people do run servers? SBC (for instance) doesn't seem to have any problem with that--it's even in the TOS that servers are permitted. How 'come cable is so scared of them?
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ArchAngel21x
MacFan Pro
Premium
join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE
·Internet Nebraska
| Re: Low Uploads = Bandwidth control From what I understand, it is a combination of limitations with the current DOCSIS and the fact that cable is a shared medium. There is a fear that people will try to max their upload potential 24/7 if we are allowed to use it any way we want.
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Sortofadog
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
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aliasrlz
Premium
join:2000-09-01
the world
| said by RadioDoc :said by CableTool :Low uploads are pretty much the only thing keeping people from becoming a server.... Well then, how about building the network so it doesn't unravel when people do run servers? SBC (for instance) doesn't seem to have any problem with that--it's even in the TOS that servers are permitted. How 'come cable is so scared of them? Well said | |
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@grandenetworks.n
| Time Warner SA does have competition This is kind of interesting because San Antonio is kind of unique because there are 2 cable companies with their own lines in this town. The other is grande communications. I think they have about 2/3 of the city wired now and they have good packages can get voice data and basic cable for like $75 a month and the best part the 3.0/384 tier is $20 but after a while you seem to get 8.0/512 service I guess they forget or something
Last Result:
Download Speed: 7056 kbps (882 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 414 kbps (51.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
their website isn't very up to date on pricing but they are covering most of central Texas now i think their high end tier is like 10/1 but I haven't talked to them in a long time because nothing goes down
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| what is it with $200 for 30mbit What up with dat!
The top tier for consumers shouldn't be more than $100, and should be part of a system-wide upgrades with lowering prices every year. Anything else is wasteful and not worth the its weight in dog poop. Every year there should be a 5-10 megabit upgrade until we get to the 100/100 holy grail. | |
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Premium
join:2000-12-19
Federal Way, WA | Are you kidding? I would never pay that kind of money for any speed.:(
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join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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February 11th, @01:14PM
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join:2004-12-10
Kansas City, MO
| Re: upload the reason i think that TW doesn't increase upload is takes more fiber to handle upload speed which means they have to run more fiber to nodes an whatever and = lots of money at 2.00 a foot for fiber optical cable that's not cheap with dsl there is no fiber to deal with if u want faster downloads u go with cable if its faster uploads u want u go with dsl one of my cable friends told me that correct me if I'm wrong please | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | Re: upload Ever heard about DWDM (dense wave division multiplex)? you can multiple the exisiting bandwidth upto 160 times. | |
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dadkins
Merry Whatever
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Blah Blah Blah... Symetrical is what people want!
2/2 - 5/5 - 10/10 - ???/???
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Tristan9669
join:2004-08-07
Beverly Hills, CA | Comcast? What about comcast will they upgrade around the same time? | |
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join:2005-08-07
Rialto, CA | Re: Comcast? Probably not. They've just upgraded last part of '05. TW and CC have the same mentality though: high download (if you can call 10mbit down fast anymore) and a slowass upload. | |
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join:2001-08-24
Miami, FL | Hmmm You might see your upgrade in 2012 like our OOL. | |
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scubascythan
join:2005-05-14
| _ Wow, I'm jealous but I live in Canada where the speeds are standard across the country for one ISP. Guess in the states companies don't worry about getting service to customers but rather upgrades to those who already have them, sucks to be those in the rural areas. | |
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Go Blue
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join:2005-09-28
North York, ON | Re: _ There is no ISP in Canada that provides identical speeds nationwide. | |
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join:2005-10-21
USA | RE: Time Warner Cable 30Mbps so there will be a speed increase all over texas where i live to when is this speed update? | |
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majortom1981
join:2004-08-26
Lindenhurst, NY | I have cablevision I always wondered why the other cable providers dont do what cablevision is doing. they all use the same equipment basically right?
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Tzale
Ron Paul - I Didn't Vote For Either
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join:2004-01-06
NJ, USA |  Upload
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| FYI I have worked for TWC for 11 years now, and boy has the industry changed. Anyhoo, TWC corporate has given a green light to all of its divisions to increase their speeds for the standard tier (currently 5000/384) to 7000/512. Upload increase is coming soon. | |
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Tzale
Ron Paul - I Didn't Vote For Either
Premium
join:2004-01-06
NJ, USA
·Verizon FIOS
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| said by MeMyselfI :
I have worked for TWC for 11 years now, and boy has the industry changed. Anyhoo, TWC corporate has given a green light to all of its divisions to increase their speeds for the standard tier (currently 5000/384) to 7000/512. Upload increase is coming soon.
If they can upgrade everyone to Docsis 2.0, like Cablevision's Optimum Online then they could provide 30mbps/2mbps.
Best bet? Wait for Verizon FIOS to come to you and get the 15/2 plan or the 30/5 plan for $54.95/month (not available in all areas).
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thank you twc corporate.
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