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Question arises once again in the boondocks
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"Broadband access is no longer just a fun thing. It has become an essential utility no matter where you live," says Brian Dabson, associate director of the Rural Policy Research Institute at the University of Missouri-Columbia. The Associated Press checks in on the state of broadband in rural America, and looks at several of the proposed deployment solutions, including using the USF to fund rural deployment.

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moonpuppy

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Not yet.....

...but it is getting there.

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Depends on the situation

For me, it is an absolute necessity. Not only do I run my business from it, but it is also our main source of information and news (we choose not to have Television in our home).

I personally think that Broadband is a utility. A lot of people probably thought that Power and Telephone were luxuries when they were first introduced, however we now know that it isn't true in today's time. Broadband SHOULD be considered a utility...in my opinion.
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Re: Depends on the situation

If I think hard about it, the absolute necessities for me to use the internet CAN be done with a dial-up modem, which is mainly e-mail and the occasional website.

Of course, pleasure wise I do a LOT more on the internet, and I could not live without broadband internet for a long time.

Personally, I don't think Broadband should be a utility, however I do feel that INTERNET should be a utility, and with that at least a DECENT connection to the internet.

My problem with the current dial-up situation, is that there are MANY areas where you can't even get a better connection then 26400 bps. My mother-in-law (who now has DSL) could not get any faster then 26400 bps on her 56k modem, no matter what she tried.

I think we have the technology available to deploy a nationwide network of 128 kbps connections through phonelines, regardless of the distance to the CO using ISDN type technology, and if areas cannot get the speeds of DSL due to its distance limitation, I believe there should be a federal, nationwide effort to get everyone that has access to a phone line in the United States to at least a 128 kbps connection speed to the internet.
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Re: Depends on the situation

BROADBAND MUST NOT BECOME A UTILITY!

The second we start thinking of it as a utility, the government is going to start demanding absolute control of it. the internet is NOT a government system. the backbones are owned, operated, and interconnected through PRIAVATE COMPANIES who solely control it. If we create an internet communications commission (FCC of the future) all of a sudden our information freedom ends and the internet will become utterly useless. Do you really want a bunch of BUSHes dictating the future of the internet? I sure as hell dont.

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Re: Depends on the situation

I don't believe there is any "essential" utility. Civilization has survived for thousands of years without such utilities, therefore in our short time, making them a luxury.

Webster's definition of utility:
Main Entry: public utility
Function: noun
: a business organization (as an electric company) performing a public service and subject to special governmental regulation

So yes, it could easily fit the definition of utility.

It is not on the same scale of as the telephone and sewage system, but in 50 years, I am sure it will be there once 99% of the country is connected.

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Re: Depends on the situation

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I don't believe there is any "essential" utility. Civilization has survived for thousands of years without such utilities, therefore in our short time, making them a luxury.
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i agree on not letting bush control anything of importance, but i think the decision here is about government providing ACCESS to the internet and not exercising any control over its content...

EDIT: sorry this reply was for deepblackmag's comment about govt control of the internet, not your post....

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said by King P See Profile :

A lot of people probably thought that Power and Telephone were luxuries when they were first introduced, however we now know that it isn't true in today's time
But it was true in that time -- right where broadband could be considered to be today. That doesn't mean it isn't important. Just not important enough to be a utility.

But the real reason people want to rush to classify broadband as a utility has little to do with putting any sort of metrics on its value in people's lives and more to do with forcing the providers hands. Utility = regulation = moves that may (or may not?) be good for the consumer, but bad for the company.
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broadband is as essential as electricity. We need to power our water heaters and our referigerators and our computers. There's no need to question whether it's a utility. It's essential for the nourishment of the human species. It's as essential as access to the library or the television.

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Re: Not yet.....

Thats one of the best idea i've heard. I tried for ISDN, but verizon won't offer it to me, when they most likely can. I'd be happy with 128k, stream audio, play games...:D

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No, broadband is not a utility. Having internet access isn't a necessity, you can do just fine without the internet at all. Yes, it is more difficult to do some things, but it is a luxury.
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Re: Not yet.....

said by Iridium See Profile :

No, broadband is not a utility. Having internet access isn't a necessity, you can do just fine without the internet at all.
You can also live without electricity, natural gas, running water, among other things. A neccessity doesnt = a utility.

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you mean broadband isn't a utility, i just thought everyone had it, kind of like a cell phone...
shapiro44

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Is Broadband a Utility?

Yes absolutely!!
All Americans should have affordable broadband available.
It is economic necessity.
Jamuka

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Re: Is Broadband a Utility?

Seems that a car would be more of a "economic necessity", so does that mean everyone should have a subsidized car too?

Get real!
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Re: Is Broadband a Utility?

Transportation is a necessity, and yes we have subsidized public transportation. A car is NOT a necessity, however. We have subsidized bussing, train, and air travel.
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Re: Is Broadband a Utility?

Grow up.
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Re: Is Broadband a Utility?

Ah, a witty well thought out response that is a contribution to the discussion.

calvoiper

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Re: Is Broadband a Utility?

I don't know if it involves "growing up", but it does involve knowing what you're talking about.

said by boojumbunn See Profile :

Transportation is a necessity, and yes we have subsidized public transportation. A car is NOT a necessity, however. We have subsidized bussing, train, and air travel.
We sure don't have subsidized public transportation in most rural areas, which is where they are talking about using the USF slush fund to back broadband deployment. Pick most any little (under 7,500 population) farming town in the Midwest or Great Plains and you'll see what I mean--no buses, no trains, and no scheduled air service. Many of them do, however, have some sort of broadband--either a cable driven solution or some wireless approach.

Find a better analogy.

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Re: Is Broadband a Utility?

In a lot of rural area's we do.. because Greyhound Bus, Trailways Bus, AmTrack Trains, and most airlines have been subsidized by the american government. There are VERY few places that don't have a bus passing within a reasonable distance. Mobility within the country is considered to be a right held by every citizen (unless that right has been lost due to a felony conviction) and to promote the exchange of goods and mobility of the population the government subsidize a wide array of transportation options. Individual vehicles are generaly not one of thos subsidies, however.

In addition, the infrastructure that makes such transport possible (such as right of ways, roads, etc.) is paid for by the government. That is a bit of a different issue, however.

BTW, thank you for responding with some actual information that I can respond to. The problem with responses like "grow up" is that it's hard to tell exactly what it is in your statement that they are disagreeing with.
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Re: Is Broadband a Utility?

For more on Federal subsidy of rural transportation you can go to »www.fta.dot.gov/17861_17864_ENG_HTML.htm This is the Federal Transportation Agency. There are seperate programs for tribal lands, of course.

If your a rural community you can apply for grants and low interest loans from the federal government to help support public transportation in your area.

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I spend a fair amount of time in rural America, and I grew up there. If you look at the towns Amtrak, Greyhound, and that loose affiliation of independents that calls itself "Trailways" serve, you'll find that very few of them fall into the "under 7,500" population I mentioned--and many of the towns I'm talking about aren't close to the towns served, either. (I said "farming communities", not "suburbs".)

There are, for instance, only 4 east-west Amtrak routes between the Mississippi and the west coast, and only two north-south routes there--one in the Mississippi valley and one in California.

I still think there are better analogies.

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Re: Is Broadband a Utility?

And any of those communities can request funding from the federal government for rural transportation, provided they have fewer than 10,000 people. This transportation can tie into existing lines to provide further transportation throughout the nation.

If you have a better analogy, your welcome to provide it.. mine wasn't an analogy, mine was a response to a person saying that Cars were a necessity and should be subsidized. My response was that it's not cars, its transportation that is a necessity and transportation IS subsidized. I certainly wasn't comparing the various rural transportation funding programs to broadband.

calvoiper

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Re: Is Broadband a Utility?

Ahaa!

Sorry. I read your note as trying to say that broadband deserves subsidies because it's like transportation.

To the extent we disagree on whether broadband is a "necessity", that argument is raging elsewhere in this note tree.

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said by tommytomtom See Profile :

Grow up.
It's the truth unfortunately.

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Broadband is not a utility but everyone should be entitled to the service

G_Poobah

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What the hell does a car have to do with broadband?

The comparison would be electricity, or water, or an school system, or roads, or a common defense, or a police department, or a fire department. Those are all necessities in a civilized society.

Our country today requires broadband everywhere in order for us to compete with the rest of the world.
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said by Jamuka See Profile :

Seems that a car would be more of a "economic necessity", so does that mean everyone should have a subsidized car too?

Get real!
Huh, cars are already MASSIVELY subsidized. Almost all the roads in this country are maintained for passenger car travel by taxpayer dollars. Not to mention the hundreds of billions of military dollars spent to ensure a stable supply of fuel.

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said by PDXPLT See Profile :

Huh, cars are already MASSIVELY subsidized. Almost all the roads in this country are maintained for passenger car travel by taxpayer dollars.
Yes... gas taxes, registration fees, and other car taxes all pay for roads in most states. Heck, these taxes subsidize other forms of transport as well. Gas prices could be lower if it wasn't taxed to pay for mass transit.

The bottom line is if a person chooses not to drive, he/she won't be paying for a transportation system that he/she doesn't use.
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Then it should be regulated and taxed, as well?

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said by Maarvin See Profile :

Then it should be regulated and taxed, as well?
Isn't it already?

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said by Matt See Profile :

said by Maarvin See Profile :

Then it should be regulated and taxed, as well?
Isn't it already?
Not to the degree telecom is, which I think was probably his point.

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said by calvoiper See Profile :

said by Matt See Profile :

said by Maarvin See Profile :

Then it should be regulated and taxed, as well?
Isn't it already?
Not to the degree telecom is, which I think was probably his point.

calvoiper
And that is a BAD thing?

I already pay a 3 dollar "Regulatory Recovery Fee" because I have a main number and a "virtual" number, then I pay a $.60 "Federal Excise" tax on my VoIP line.

While that is not to the degree a POTS, ILEC line is charged, it's still ridiculous

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Re: Is Broadband a Utility?

No, I think mbhn5204 was pointing out that with the perceived "good" of "utility" classification comes certain things that are less desirable. I don't think any of us embrace taxes or unnecessary regulation, but the key is what is "necessary"? Some things are, some aren't.

(I'll avoid specifics for fear of igniting an off topic discussion.)

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said by shapiro44 See Profile :

Yes absolutely!!
The thing with a "Utility" is however.... that you are charged for it per the amount you use of it.

Up until the 40ties or so, there were still watercompanies and gascompanies who charged "flat fee" for water and gas, and in the 20ties (before the crash) it wasn't uncommon for electricity to be a flat rate as well.

The very first long distance services for phonelines were flat fee. Not everyone had their own phone, so you went to the local post office or hotel, paid the phone operator a fixed fee, and then called whomever you needed to call.

Of course that all changed rapidly when everyone was connected.....

Will broadband be next?

There are already plans to offer "pay as you go" broadband, although I don't know if it ever materialized. This means that you pay them a low amount a month for a connection, lets say $15 a month, and on top of that you pay for the amount of data you transfer with it, lets say $1 per gigabyte. To offset spam, unwanted traffic, trojan traffic activity on the internet (not your infection but just general probing) and whatnot, an ISP could decide to include 1 Gb of free traffic.

All utilities went to a model where you pay for what you use.... should broadband really be next? I think its great for those who don't use the internet all that much (bill will go down) but those with a family or big download habits won't be too happy with such a setup.
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Re: Is Broadband a Utility?

I disagree..

Broadband being billed as a utility is ABSOLUTELY WRONG. Period.

Reason: There is no incremental or unit cost for broadband, unlike electricity or water.

Well, I pay for 1.5mb downstream T-1 for my internet. If I USE all 1.5mb/sec, the cost to the local loop provider (verizon) is NO DIFFERENT than if I use 0mb/sec. The cost to UUnet is NO DIFFERENT than if I use 0mb/sec. So using 1.5mb/sec vs. 0mb/sec is the same cost. In water, if I use 100 gallons per second, then they need to pump 100 gallons more of water, which means there's a unit cost.

The internet is a capital intensive, but unit free utility. You have capital costs, but that's what we are paying for every month. As long as there is REAL COMPETITION, the concept of 'charging for the byte' will never succeed, since I the consumer, will base my decision on what's a better value for me. We don't exist to serve the corporation. Just repeat that and you'll understand.

*final note: Do you REALLY think that you'll get a discount if you only use your high speed for 'web browsing'?

*double final note: Mr. Burns blocking out the sun, in order to increase the revenue of the power plant is probably the closest analogy to what the telco's what for the internet. And we all saw what happened to Mr. Burns. (in the real world, even going to a better hospital won't upgrade your condition from 'dead' to 'alive' though.

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There is no incremental or unit cost for broadband, unlike electricity or water
Your phone line is a utility and it is no different than internet data transfer. If they want to bill by use they can charge per kilobyte. With VOIP threatening to eliminate pay-by-minute telephone service, I think telcos will be looking more and more towards implementing metered rate internet service.

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said by G_Poobah See Profile :

I disagree..

Broadband being billed as a utility is ABSOLUTELY WRONG. Period.
You opine.

said by G_Poobah See Profile :

Reason: There is no incremental or unit cost for broadband, unlike electricity or water.
Unfortunately this is not true. If I purchase a T-1 from Verizon, AT&T or someone else. It will carry 1.544 Mbits/sec. That is all it will carry. If I run full 24x7 for one 30 day month it will move 1.544*60*60*24*30 bits of data. Since it is a fixed cost pipe. My price per bit is the monthly cost of the pipe over the total number of bits I can move in a month with that pipe. Therefore I pay an incremental price per bit for the gaurantee from Verizon that I can move that much traffic per month if that is my desire. It is in the Service Level Agreement. They gaurantee me a certain performance. I pay the big bucks to get that performance.

said by G_Poobah See Profile :

Well, I pay for 1.5mb downstream T-1 for my internet. If I USE all 1.5mb/sec, the cost to the local loop provider (verizon) is NO DIFFERENT than if I use 0mb/sec.
Yes it is. If your traffic only stayed on the local loop, your statement would be true. Are there lots of web sites on your local loop? Your carrier, Verizon in this case, pays for their connection to the Internet whence your traffic arrives to your local loop.

said by G_Poobah See Profile :

The cost to UUnet is NO DIFFERENT than if I use 0mb/sec. So using 1.5mb/sec vs. 0mb/sec is the same cost. In water, if I use 100 gallons per second, then they need to pump 100 gallons more of water, which means there's a unit cost.
Do they pump that water from your local loop or does that water come from a water tower somewhere (THE INTERNET).

said by G_Poobah See Profile :

The internet is a capital intensive, but unit free utility.
BULLSHIT.

said by G_Poobah See Profile :

You have capital costs, but that's what we are paying for every month. As long as there is REAL COMPETITION, the concept of 'charging for the byte' will never succeed, since I the consumer, will base my decision on what's a better value for me. We don't exist to serve the corporation. Just repeat that and you'll understand.
Mark this down and take it to the bank. You will live to see per byte pricing on data arriving at your computer by ANY medium.

said by G_Poobah See Profile :

*final note: Do you REALLY think that you'll get a discount if you only use your high speed for 'web browsing'?

*double final note: Mr. Burns blocking out the sun, in order to increase the revenue of the power plant is probably the closest analogy to what the telco's what for the internet. And we all saw what happened to Mr. Burns. (in the real world, even going to a better hospital won't upgrade your condition from 'dead' to 'alive' though.
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said by G_Poobah See Profile :

...There is no incremental or unit cost for broadband, unlike electricity or water.
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Well, I pay for 1.5mb downstream T-1 for my internet. If I USE all 1.5mb/sec, the cost to the local loop provider (verizon) is NO DIFFERENT than if I use 0mb/sec.
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The internet is a capital intensive, but unit free utility. You have capital costs, but that's what we are paying for every month. As long as there is REAL COMPETITION, the concept of 'charging for the byte' will never succeed, since I the consumer, will base my decision on what's a better value for me.
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Poohbah, I beg to differ.

EVERY ISP today uses some form of "resource sharing" or "concentration" to serve its users. You may in fact be buying 1.5mb/sec and you may well be entitled to 1.5mb/sec connection to the Internet.

That does not mean that your ISP necessarily installs and maintains 1,000 times that capacity (1.5gb/sec) all the way through to every peering point for every 1,000 customers it serves. In reality, the ISP's high level connections are much smaller than that, wisely recognizing that not every customer will be up/downloading the full 1.5mb/sec for each and every one of the 86,400 seconds in a day.

As more and more users "fully use" their connections (e.g., for viewing video on demand) then the overall size of the high-level connections at the peering points will increase--the Internet "backbone" connections will have to get bigger for each ISP, and this will come at increased costs.

Consider, as an isolated example, what would happen if US citizens suddenly became fascinated with Australian video on demand--wouldn't that vastly increase usage on the US-Australia circuits carrying Internet traffic? Wouldn't there be increased costs? [I will admit that highly efficient "caching" techniques can reduce these types of costs, but caching doesn't eliminate these costs, and caching has its own problem set.]

Over time, it's quite likely that ISPs will migrate to "bit based pricing"--as has been pointed out above, this is a common occurrence in business where usage of facilities increases and not all users increase their usage in uniform lockstep.

It's also true that sometimes economics moves costs and drives prices the other way--long distance telephone service is now moving from "per minute" to "all you can call" because long-haul fiber and switching is now so cheap. (At the dawn of nuclear power, some said electricity would become "too cheap to meter"--but they weren't quite correct.)

In short, the cost to Verizon if most of their users just read BBR and send e-mail is quite different than if most of their users spend 23 hours a day downloading bulk content and watching streaming video, and sooner or later Verizon's pricing will likely reflect that. If it doesn't, it will end up with all of the "power" users and someone else using incremental pricing will undercut it for "light" users.

(BTW, I don't look forward to that day any more than you do, but it will probably happen.)

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Re: Is Broadband a Utility?

As an indication of the upgrades (and associated costs) necessary as people maximize their consumption of available bandwidth, check out this article (from Morning Broadband Bytes) about how UK competition is resulting in providers over-concentrating their backbone connections....

»www.lightreading.com/document.as···=techweb

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it is totally NOT a utility. "they" just want you to believe it is. it is a complete luxury to have any connection above 28.8
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It not but everyone should be able to get atleast 768k DSL. I'd be quite content with that.

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It's a utility, not a necessity. Like a phone, or a car. Unlike brains, feet and legs. Unlike water and food. A utility, for chatting about idioties, for exchanging business. Business is not necessary, but it is useful.
What is really necessary? 100 times less than what some have, 1000 timmes more than what many have not.
Broadband is a precious little necessity in our precious little world.
Good heavens...

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Then maybe you should be the one to be the first broadband utility and provide it to all. No one wants to be the owner of a regulated, minimal profit utility. If you look at the last 20 years, Power, Cable and Telco have all made it clear they want to move away from any part of their business that is considered "utility".

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I own a WISP in an area the Telco would not serve I have done it without and USF funds and I cover over 300 square miles with less than 1500 homes.
If USF where used the phone company would just come it and run me out of business. I am privately owned and funded.
And yes broadband is a utility and the Federal,State, and county goverments should keep there mitts off.

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Not until it runs mission critical app's

No, it is a Luxury.

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Re: Not until it runs mission critical app's

i guess staying in business is not mission critical to you then...

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i guess staying in business is not mission critical to you then...
You can run a business on the Internet, whether it is via Satellite, landline Broadband, or POTS(Dialup). The article is about whether or not the Rural population should have it. Of course, you are probably jealous that you do not have broadband out in the country.

Believe it or not, only 15% of population lives in Cities, the rest live in rural areas. I should add to this that I lived in a rural area in a very small town outside of Springfield, and luckily the CATV provider had 384/56 broadband. Wasn't that fast, but was faster then dial-up. When I moved to another small town 30mins outside of Springfield, but 10mins from the next largest town; guess what, no broadband from Verizon, only Dial-up. Could of gotten WISP but the cost would of been too much for what they wanted.
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NO

It is something nice to have, but not essential. Especially, since satellite broadband is available in almost all rural areas.

So the issue comes down to one of the price of the service. And the fact that rural areas don't want to pay the cost of the service. They want the government and/or the telcos to subsidize a cheaper solution for themselves.
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Re: NO

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

So the issue comes down to one of the price of the service. And the fact that rural areas don't want to pay the cost of the service.
Speak for yourself.

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

They want the government and/or the telcos to subsidize a cheaper solution for themselves.
Speak for yourself AGAIN.

These comments are full of assumption and assertion. That's two asses the way I see it...

I am a WISP, in a rural area. The people here are willing to pay for their broadband service. If they weren't we could not stay in business.

Now, go back down to the beach and get some more sun!
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the cow says

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MOOOOOOO!

cows need internet too! you dont need broadband to live so its not a necessity. i dont feel like paying an extra 5 bucks on my bill so hickville can get broadband. dial-up is just fine for their fast paced environment.

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Rob
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Kendall, FL

Very Essential To Me

I work from home. And I need broadband to work. When I don't work, I don't get paid, when I don't get paid, bad things happen. I don't have an office to go to, my home is my office.

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insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN


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January 6th, @06:04PM

That article is a joke.

Wow, everyone in that article is a perfect candidate for satellite. Not one of them is complaining about latency, they are all complaining about the speed of their dial-up and how it slows them down so they lose money. I would have to say that is a terrible article, as the quotes contradict the point of it.
The writer should have found people in rural areas that like playing online games and want to use VoIP. Or had them complain that the latency when surfing the web slows down business, not the lack of speed.

And in the end I think wireless is the solution in rural areas. Odds are these places have cell service and could get a faster low latency connection right now.

When I drive to school down I-65 in indiana, it's just lined with farms that are all in the middle of no where. Odds are none of them can get dsl or cable internet, but any of them could get an unlimited data service from a cell company because cell towers line the interstate.