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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs:
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| Re: Yep Radio shacks are still carrying V2 and V3, right along side the V5. Fortunately you don't even have to look at the serial to figure out if it's one of the older, and thus better models. Just avoid anything with the "Setup" button in place of the normal Linksys logo.
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trparky
Bite My Shiny Metal Ass
Premium,MVM
join:2000-05-24
Cleveland, OH
clubs:
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| Re: Yep There is any easier way! On every box, the version of the device is printed in plain English stating V1, V2, V3, and so on.
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LinuxJunkie
join:2005-01-19
Cyberspace
| Re: Yep Actually, no they are not. I have a v3 (the best from what I've gathered, with the faster processor and more memory) along with its box and nowhere on the box does it reference a version number. The only way to tell is with the first few characters of the serial number (in my case, CGN5 corresponds to a version 3 of the WRT54GS). Somebody already posted the serial number list below. | |
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n8_ball
join:2003-04-25
Mystic, CT
clubs:
2 edits | Had a v5 for a day and I can verify it was utter crap. Found a v3 at Walmart for a decent price and couldn't be happier.
FYI - The box I picked up had the Intel Smart Wireless Solutions on the front. It was a V3. The V5 I took back to Best Buy did not have this on the front.
Therefore, if you don't want a V5 look for Intel Smart Wireless Solutions on the left hand side of the box front.
edit - Actually the setup button is an even better clue. | |
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| phazah
join:2004-05-02
Findlay, OH | a friend of mine purchased one, and it wouldnt stay connected to his linksys cable modem.
he ended up replacing it with a d-link. | |
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typicalLinsys
@71.241.x.x
| Typical in the computer biz not just telcom. This is typical business sense, Just I hope other companies take advantage of this and come out with the dvd recorder versions of the supermulti drive: all wireless standards including wimax in their router, and thensome. Hell, you could even make these things become superpowerful repeaters that blanket your town if you wanted to. (20mile range) Provided you have enough power/antenna equip in the right places. | |
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Defcon888
Premium
join:2003-07-22
San Bruno, CA
 ·AT&T Yahoo
·DSL EXTREME
| Phew... When I sent in my WRT54Gv1 for warranty, they sent me a new v4. I still miss the extra LEDs, but I'm glad they didn't send me a v5, which was due for retail sale one week after I got the v4.
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cpayne5
join:2004-01-06
Amissville, VA | ~ Why no mention of the WRT54GL, here?
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
Newtown, PA | Cool... The shadow of the router is of a fighter jet. Too bad the router sux.  | |
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hwstar0
join:2003-11-29
La Mesa, CA | An open source mark like UL/CSA/Energy Star etc. We need a open source mark of approval on consumer goods with embedded processors to ensure the buyer is properly informed.
This will allow more of the public to steer clear of non-upgradable closed source electronics. | |
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Primis1
join:2005-06-13
Coldwater, MI
| Cisco.... ...is the worst thing to ever happen to Linksys.
Back nefore they acquired them I swore by Linksys. Then after acquisition their firmware began to turn to crap, and nowadays I not only don't recommend Linksys to people, I explicitly tell them to NOT go with Linksys.
Cisco needs to wake up to this. They took a once-respected name and screwed it up big-time by tinkering where no tinkering needed to be done. | |
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Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| Re: Cisco.... said by blueeyesm  :Seriously tho - it's a shame these companies do not open up to allow a user-developed, open firmware area within the product, so that users can customize a product. True...but I think I might get upset if I start seeing "Pimp My Router" on the TV Guide in the near future. | |
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join:2003-05-19
San Luis Obispo, CA | Re: Cisco.... ROTFLOL!!!!
I can see it now...w/a 56" Plasma screen showing the current "online" status.
Nice take there, Aquablaze..
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jsimmons
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-24
Falls Church, VA
| said by Primis1 :Back before they [Cisco] acquired them I swore by Linksys. Then after acquisition their firmware began to turn to crap, and nowadays I not only don't recommend Linksys to people, I explicitly tell them to NOT go with Linksys. Cisco needs to wake up to this. They took a once-respected name and screwed it up big-time by tinkering where no tinkering needed to be done. I've experienced problems with Linksys, Belkin, D-Link, Netgear, ZyXELL, and more. Believe me... When it comes to getting updates to firmware out, and responding to user pressure when serious flaws are found, Linksys is far better (and quicker) than most.
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join:2003-08-20
South Lyon, MI
clubs: | If cisco put half the amount of time into developing there linksys brand as they do with there commercial routers they would actually be decent. | |
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The2ndclory
join:2004-07-13
Bridgeport, CT
 ·Optimum Online
| I fall within the 30% I bought it with the intention of putting 3rd party firmware on it and was a little upset when I found out the news AFTER it had arrived at my door. But all in all its been pretty stable to me. I stream all my movies that I watch wirelessly and I can say its hiccuped once or twice and my laptop couldn't find the AP but when I turn my wireless off and then back on everything is ok so I suspect something to do with the client.
I've been through 3 Wireless APs to get to this one and I'm pretty satisfied now so its all good.
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Towerguy
@clallampud.net | The New Wrt is a WART I own an ISP and due to flooding problems I have banned them from our network.
It sucks but had to be done because of disruptions they where causing. | |
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JoeOnSunset
Doublethink Is Doubleplus Ungood.
Premium
join:2002-11-25
Ormond Beach, FL | Re: The New Wrt is a WART  | |
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phantom6294
join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD
| WRT54GS v4 Neutered as well...The GSv4 was neutered as well; also getting a memory reduction. From 8MB Flash / 32MB RAM to 4MB Flash / 16MB RAM. Basically, this brings it to pre-Gv5 memory levels... luckily though, this is still enough memory to run the 3rd-party firmwars.
From my WRT54GSv4, running dd-wrt.v23-beta2:
~ # cat /proc/meminfo
total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached:
Mem: 14581760 10215424 4366336 0 1409024 4370432
Swap: 0 0 0
MemTotal: 14240 kB
MemFree: 4264 kB
MemShared: 0 kB
Buffers: 1376 kB
Cached: 4268 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 3344 kB
Inactive: 2320 kB
HighTotal: 0 kB
HighFree: 0 kB
LowTotal: 14240 kB
LowFree: 4264 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
~ #
This is from my main router, a GSv2 running Talisman v1.1
main:~#cat /proc/meminfo
total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached:
Mem: 30945280 12582912 18362368 0 1351680 5185536
Swap: 0 0 0
MemTotal: 30220 kB
MemFree: 17932 kB
MemShared: 0 kB
Buffers: 1320 kB
Cached: 5064 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 4452 kB
Inactive: 4196 kB
HighTotal: 0 kB
HighFree: 0 kB
LowTotal: 30220 kB
LowFree: 17932 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
main:~#
As I understand it... the "Speedboost" capability is a firmware implementation... NOT a hardware one. Which means buying a GSv4 means you spend and extra $30 for some code in firmware most people won't even use.... huh.
In short, the Gv4 has the same amount of memory as the GSv4, and yet is $30 cheaper. If you can find a Gv4, buy it long before you buy a GSv4. If you want the previous 8MB/32MB models... look for a GS prior to v4. | |
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Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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| Re: WRT54GS v4 Neutered as well...said by phantom6294 :The GSv4 was neutered as well; also getting a memory reduction. From 8MB Flash / 32MB RAM to 4MB Flash / 16MB RAM. Basically, this brings it to pre-Gv5 memory levels... luckily though, this is still enough memory to run the 3rd-party firmwars. From my WRT54GSv4, running dd-wrt.v23-beta2: ~ # cat /proc/meminfo
total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached:
Mem: 14581760 10215424 4366336 0 1409024 4370432
Swap: 0 0 0
MemTotal: 14240 kB
MemFree: 4264 kB
MemShared: 0 kB
Buffers: 1376 kB
Cached: 4268 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 3344 kB
Inactive: 2320 kB
HighTotal: 0 kB
HighFree: 0 kB
LowTotal: 14240 kB
LowFree: 4264 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
~ # This is from my main router, a GSv2 running Talisman v1.1 main:~#cat /proc/meminfo
total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached:
Mem: 30945280 12582912 18362368 0 1351680 5185536
Swap: 0 0 0
MemTotal: 30220 kB
MemFree: 17932 kB
MemShared: 0 kB
Buffers: 1320 kB
Cached: 5064 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 4452 kB
Inactive: 4196 kB
HighTotal: 0 kB
HighFree: 0 kB
LowTotal: 30220 kB
LowFree: 17932 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
main:~# As I understand it... the "Speedboost" capability is a firmware implementation... NOT a hardware one. Which means buying a GSv4 means you spend and extra $30 for some code in firmware most people won't even use.... huh. In short, the Gv4 has the same amount of memory as the GSv4, and yet is $30 cheaper. If you can find a Gv4, buy it long before you buy a GSv4. If you want the previous 8MB/32MB models... look for a GS prior to v4. How to get this info? I have a WRT54G V2 and just would like to see what it says too. | |
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join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD
| Re: WRT54GS v4 Neutered as well... Well, since the Linksys firmware doesn't provide telnet services into the router (AFAIK), you'll need a 3rd-party firmware.
If you have a 3rd-party firmware, log in via telnet/SSH and simply run the command: cat /proc/meminfo
Or... pull it apart, get the part number for the memory chip and look it up. But... that physcially and noticably voids your warranty. | |
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sahirs
join:2002-02-14
Singapore | How to get this info? I have a WRT54G V2 and just would like to see what it says too.
Use wrtbwlog. Go do a google search.
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join:2005-09-16
Camarillo, CA
1 edit | I read about this last week, I went out and bought a GSv3 even though I didn't really need a router. I figure I will in the future. V3 has the updated chip handling the lan traffic, supposedly it can handle 50mbps connections through the wan while the pre v3 would top out at 30mbps. This probably isn't an issue for most people but I figured in the future it may be for me with fios. And it has the full 32mb memory chips. I found it for 50 bucks AR at bestbuy. | |
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envoid
join:2002-12-21
Duluth, GA
| said by phantom6294 :As I understand it... the "Speedboost" capability is a firmware implementation... NOT a hardware one. Which means buying a GSv4 means you spend and extra $30 for some code in firmware most people won't even use.... huh. It is hardware. The firmware tho does need to be there to take advantage of it. | |
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join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD
| Re: WRT54GS v4 Neutered as well... I don't know the details of how Speedboost works... but I do know this. The G and GS models have shared the same chipset (for the most part)... thus, the extra $30 is for just a different firmware; and probably just some extra code. That is some damn expensive code. Bascially, it's a selling point only... the GS bascially only had more memory than the G models.
One could surmise that since the GSv4 has half the memory of previous models... then the extra memory was unnecssary for Speedboost to work. Furthermore, if the GSv4 is capable of Speedboost with half the memory... than a G model with the same chipset and the 4/16 Memory configuration (the same as the GSv4) is quite capable of Speedboost as well. Which begs the question... why did previous models have the 8/32 config?
See a matrix of hardware specs of G & GS by models here Note, some of the memory figures are wrong in this matrix. | |
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rawgerz
In Debt we trust
Premium
join:2004-10-03
Grove City, PA
·Verizon Online DSL
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| hmm I think I will pick one up just for the heck of it, the advanced $600 dollar router features aren't what appeals to me.. it's using a firmware thats probably more stable than Linksys I don't care for theirs.
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damonlab
Premium
join:2001-05-02
Detroit, MI
clubs: | WRT55AG WRT55AG is a worthless as well. I returned two of them. | |
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stevennb
Ok, But, Thats The Last Straw.
Premium
join:2001-05-08
Wayne, NJ
1 edit | WRT54GS I have a WRT54GS as well.
How does one go about finding out what version they have?
Edit - I have Version 2.
Thanks cpayne5 | |
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cpayne5
join:2004-01-06
Amissville, VA | Re: WRT54GS It's written on the bottom.
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| phantom6294
join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD
1 edit | Should be printed on the bottom...
Also, compare the serial number (on the bottom) to this list:
Known serial numbers (first few characters) vs versions:
CDF0 = WRT54G v1.0
CDF1 = WRT54G v1.0
CDF2 = WRT54G v1.1
CDF3 = WRT54G v1.1
CDF5 = WRT54G v2.0
CDF7 = WRT54G v2.2
CDF8 = WRT54G v3.0
CDF9 = WRT54G v3.1
CDFA = WRT54G v4.0
CDFB = WRT54G v5.0 (runs VxWorks, not Linux)
CGN0 = WRT54GS v1.0
CGN1 = WRT54GS v1.0
CGN2 = WRT54GS v1.1
CGN3 = WRT54GS v2.0
CGN4 = WRT54GS v2.1
CGN5 = WRT54GS v3.0
CGN6 = WRT54GS v4.0 | |
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Random Linksys User
@151.143.x.x
| Re: WRT54GS Thanks for posting these serial numbers.
My WRT54GS has NO version number listed anywhere on the case and tech support advised that the lack of version number indicates it is a version 1. Somehow that didn't give a lot of confidence but I accepted it and updated the firmware using the version 1 package. It worked but doubts linger.
I will check the serial number on my router when I get home.
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ReinP
@216.191.x.x
|  WRT54GL avail. in Europe and coming to N.America
The link is french but you can jam it through babel.altavista.com if you don't speak(read) it.
I recall the router has been up'ed to 64MB as well but I could be mistaken.
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| britincanada
join:2002-12-16 | Re: WRT54GL avail. in Europe and coming to N.Ameri how can i get firmware 4 v4 of this router
i tryed a few i found but would not flash
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griminal
Finally.
join:2001-06-25
Bangor, MI | I don't believe it.... Boardroom Conversation:
"Consumers really like this open firmware stuff. Let's do away with it."
Way to ruin a good thing. You Go Linksys!!! (er.. Cisco)
I better go buy a V3 or V4 before its too late. DD-WRT is just too good. | |
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| phantom6294
join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD | Re: I don't believe it.... Just remember... if possible, avoid the GSv4 (since it is, hardware-wise, identical to the Gv4) and $30 cheaper. There isn't anything wrong with the GSv4... but why pay $30 more for some extra code you probably won't utilize??? | |
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| phantom6294
join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD
| Re: Much ado... I can't say for sure... but I *THINK* Linksys started this open-source firmware movement. If I am wrong, by all means correct me.
Also, I *THINK* some of those models listed in the link for OpenWRT didn't originally run linux based/open source firmware; merely, they had the same hardware design (radio chips, etc) as the Linksys...
Someone correct me if I am wrong. | |
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| | macmouse
Premium
join:2002-05-30
Saratoga, CA
| Re: Much ado... If I recall correctly, linksys used Open-source components inside of their product secretly, and released the product without providing the source code. One day, someone was fiddling with it and discovered that it had GPL code in it (copyright notice??) and GNU(?) and made a big lawsuit over it.
Then, linksys reluctantly released their (modified) source code, which then allows people to make their own firmware. They didn't intentionally make it so people could modify their firmware but it just ended up that way. If nobody noticed then there would be no third-party firmwares. | |
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pog
Premium
join:2004-06-03
Kihei, HI | Re: Much ado... Yeah, that's right. I guess what I mean is that, while it may be a shame that Linksys is closing things up in their shop, it certainly doesn't seem to be an end for hobbyists/enthusiasts. | |
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severach
join:2002-09-12
Jackson, MI
| Open was a life saver What Linksys doesn't understand is that their product line was total crap until "open" happened. I constantly remove Linksys routers and put D-Link in their place because Linksys is a non stop source of problems. D-Link is a nonstop source of reliability.
Thanks to "open" I almost bought one. Cisco is ensuring that no good deed goes unpunished. | |
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epsilon9090
Lost Is Amazing
Premium
join:2002-07-29
Rochester, MI
| Sveasoft is gone Sveasoft's assistance developer just left, so we can probably count on their future Belkin firmwares to fail. 
The belkin f5d7230-4 is actually a pretty decent router if only it had wireless client capabilities.
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| vincentfox
join:2003-03-18
Davis, CA
| Re: Sveasoft is gone THis thread seems to mix up G and GS units in places.
The latest model of G is the v5 and it does suck.
The latest model of GS is the v4 and it works great.
I have always bought the GS units anyways, double the flash and RAM space for an extra $10 is well worth it. I have a dozen WRT54GS units in a community WiFi network. You have no worries if you stick with GS units.
There has already been much talk about this on »www.linksysinfo.org/ | |
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@shawcable.net | Re: Sveasoft is gone yes infact it is not the more expensive wrt54(GS) being effected its the wrt54(G) v5 thats total crap | |
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@telia.com
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Sveasoft's assistance developer just left, so we can probably count on their future Belkin firmwares to fail.
The reason for the split had nothing to do with firmware development. Wolf has had much else to do the last few months and very little time left for development efforts.
He wasn't invloved in any of the Belkin development. The Belkin development is receiving more focus due to Linksys/Cisco dropping Linux support in several new product lines. The main issue is that Belkin changes the internal hardware much more often than Linksys and there are many, many variations to support.
If you want to help out and have subscribed apply to our test group. We are collecting the internal chipset data, RAM, flash, and nvram parameters from Belkin owners so we can support as many Belkin variations as possible. | |
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| Re: Sveasoft is gone Sveasoft_
If you want to help out and have subscribed apply to our test group. We are collecting the internal chipset data, RAM, flash, and nvram parameters from Belkin owners so we can support as many Belkin variations as possible. ;
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So one has to pay $20 to be a beta tester.. awesome! | |
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