  The BeerI Love It When A Plan Comes Together
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The Beer
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2005-Nov-8 11:36 am
Not in OmahaLuckily we have a law preventing our muni gas company from offering this service.  THANKS! | |
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2005-Nov-8 3:25 pm
Re: Not in OmahaBroadband over Plastic Gas Lines, Don’t Sink so. | |
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bb over gas lines, quit talkin' & just do it already... | |
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2005-Nov-8 11:37 am
Question...How do they do this? Do they actually pass a signal over the gas pipes? | |
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2005-Nov-8 11:39 am
Re: Question...ill believe it when i see it.... stop talking, making studies, reports and just do it already so we can be impressed by this technology. | |
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|  gheezerCompooters R Us
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If it can conduct, it can pass a signal. | |
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2005-Nov-8 11:59 am
Re: Question...Gas lines installed within the past 20 years to homes are plastic.
The gas lines act as a waveguide. | |
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Re: Question...I just had gas lines run to my home earlier this year, and they installed lovely yellow vinyl-clad stainless steel flexible pipe. I believe this could serve quite well as a waveguide. | |
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kherr
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2005-Nov-8 4:33 pm
Run , don't walk .......Good news .... we use that pipe at work, and it ain't rated to be buried, not even on the house side of the regulator. Hope you don't get a leak !!! | |
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That is quite interesting considering that my gas lines currently being ran are green vinyl clad iron. I guess my gas company is 20 yrs behind the times. | |
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Plastic PipesAll Gas Lines are made out of a type of metal...plastic..who thought of this..."working out in the yard someday...you say to yourself i am going to dig here, next thing you notice is that you just split that plasic pipe in half that runs the highly flammable gas"...plastic pipes...i dont think so | |
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Re: Plastic PipesNot true, 5psi gas pipes are plastic. Many places use this and that is it is a 1/2 inch line moron. | |
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said by JamesPC:All Gas Lines are made out of a type of metal...plastic..who thought of this..."working out in the yard someday...you say to yourself i am going to dig here, next thing you notice is that you just split that plasic pipe in half that runs the highly flammable gas"...plastic pipes...i dont think so Thats why you need to " call before you dig". Also any type of medium for carrying/ transporting natural gas is tested 1.5 times MAOP ( Max Allowable Working Pressure) Now delivery to your house is a bit different, as I'm not sure about the laws where you live. I was referring to the transmission laws ( gas transmission is regulated, ironically, by the DOT. Where i work, we use some plastic pipe, as well as iron pipe, both are being installed in the US today with iron pipe leading. Plastic pipe obviously doesn't need to be protected against corrosion. It is buried ( as one poster stated above) with a " trace wire" for ease of locating. Iron pipe normally comes ready to be welded together with the coating already on, its called fusion bond. My question is this: Where i work, we regularly run " pigs" through the pipe. The pigs sweep the system for liquids and hydrates ( ice), and need to conform to the inside of the pipe as close as possible. How will pigging be possible with fiber in the line, or are the companies going to run the fiber in the part of the line that is not piggable? | |
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I just built a brand new home. My gas pipes are iron. My water pipes are copper. The only plastic (PVC) is the drain pipes. | |
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2005-Nov-9 9:26 am
Re: Question...They are iron in the house, not out. | |
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|  N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" Guano
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Hu huhuhuh you said GAS and PASS in the same sentence.... | |
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Re: Question...Fire! fire! fire! fire! | |
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to my knowlage they will put fiber in side the gas line so very much is pure fiber | |
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2005-Nov-8 11:42 am
Licensed Pipefitter to Install?Ok all you techies! Going to have to add Pipefitter to that long list of certs!  | |
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2005-Nov-8 11:49 am
Re: Licensed Pipefitter to Install?You need to be in a Union before you can get certified first.
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plumbers put there face where you put your ass !
pipe fitters dont ! | |
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HehI remember back in 1995 when I first heard of "Broadband Over Powerline" technology from a research company in Germany. Now its late 2005 and still undergoing tests. I dont expect this Gas Line service to be any different. | |
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2005-Nov-8 11:49 am
Is it really March 31 ...... already??? Nah. Can't be... | |
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uhhhh.....I call B$ on that speed estimate. | |
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rawgerz
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2005-Nov-8 11:58 am
Invisible gas, vaporware broadband?BPL
Blimp band
Bo Gas Lines
Wi-max
How many more possible Vaporware broadband technology's can we need?
Sure even if this works it should be a lot cheaper to deploy than something more traditional such as fiber.. but i would stick with what works such as fiber..
I don't think 70% of the population is served by gas, which is why the only one of those I'd like to see deployed is the Blimp band, then even the most rural customers get served (if it lives up to what they claim that is) | |
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Re: Invisible gas, vaporware broadband?wanter when will be the turn for water pipe use to transmit high speed data.hehe | |
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2005-Nov-8 12:00 pm
Broadband over pizza!Soon the pizza guy will be delivering broadband. How about these ideas: Broadband over grass. Broadband over asphalt. Broadband over water. Broadband over trees. Come on people, think outside the box! Broadband over the BOX | |
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Re: Broadband over pizza!...and for the sticks, broadband over barbwire. | |
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Re: Broadband over pizza!said by heathcpe:...and for the sticks, broadband over barbwire. The technology exists for LAN over barbwire, cisco had a video on it a while ago. | |
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dont forget BROADBAND OVER BEER! :D | |
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2005-Nov-8 1:30 pm
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Hmm, broadband over water?...you may be onto something
I'd better patten all of those ideas, just in case. | |
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2005-Nov-9 7:40 am
Re: Broadband over pizza!said by Pv8man999 :
Hmm, broadband over water?...you may be onto something Hehehe... Jesus-approved broadband. | |
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Broadband over sewer (although, on second thought, that is somewhat redundant)... | |
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Hey, maybe they'll can up with pizza over broadband! Now that would be a killer app I could sink my teeth into!  | |
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vpoko
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2005-Nov-8 12:44 pm
HmmI can't say I love the idea of an electrical signal propogating through a line filled with explosive gas. What if there's a spark? | |
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2005-Nov-8 12:47 pm
Give me fiber!Damn these companies looking for the cheap way out. Give me fiber...since fiber is being constantly improved and is already proven to work and will end up the end result then swallow the cost and put it in now. They would easily make up the costs of the install within the first fiscal year. | |
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pnh102
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2005-Nov-8 12:51 pm
Re: Give me fiber!said by BPLSUCKS :
Give me fiber... Yea but fiber won't give you gas! | |
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Re: Give me fiber!Lack of fiber does! | |
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2005-Nov-8 12:55 pm
What's next?Water is a great conductor, when are they going to be sending broadband to my kitchen sink? | |
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RayW
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2005-Nov-8 2:51 pm
Re: What's next?said by Dexter0:Water is a great conductor, when are they going to be sending broadband to my kitchen sink? Actually water is fairly non-conductive (10-18 MegOhms/centimeter). It is the impurities in water that make it a good conductor and are the reason why you do not mix electricity and water. | |
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McLovin
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2005-Nov-8 1:27 pm
A Probability in AKStuff like this and BPL could really take off in Alaska, where I am. But the small companies up here that serve us gas and power won't dish out the change to supply us with these new features. | |
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What about if you have a propane tank?Is that a lan? | |
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2005-Nov-8 2:12 pm
Pfff, what's this smell???OMG, it's gas - we have a BUFFER OVERLOAD!!! | |
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ObviousWhat's more, the company claims they can deliver this speed for roughly the same price as a DSL install, or a tenth the install price of a fiber line
Of course it can.
Because it's a bigger pipe...
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Broadband Over Gas LinesGuys and Gals, I like all the comments made about sparks and fires but the fact is they push fiber thru the pipes. Makes no difference if it metal or plastic. No sparks just light signals sending bits and bites. | |
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WowI thought more people were in support of new forms of broadband. This is actually feasible and it wont blow up your house. I'm am getting a little tired of people saying "give me fiber or nothing" when the fact is most of you don't really require a 30mbs pipe. And I did say most, but flame me anyway. | |
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2005-Nov-8 3:12 pm
HmmI just wonder if when you are cooking dinner, will it affect your bandwidth? | |
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2005-Nov-8 3:19 pm
Re: HmmNo but if you cook enough gas producing foods, the people in your household will produce excess gas which can be sold back to the gas company. Hook em up to the meter after dinner, and watch the meter run backwards said by Jafo232:I just wonder if when you are cooking dinner, will it affect your bandwidth? | |
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If you spring a leak can a neighbor steal your bandwidth? | |
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Plastic Pipes..ya rightAll Gas Lines are made out of a type of metal...plastic..who thought of this..."working out in the yard someday...you say to yourself i am going to dig here, next thing you notice is that you just split that plastic pipe in half that runs the highly flammable gas"...plastic pipes...i dont think so | |
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