  tapeloop Long live Ollie. Premium join:2004-06-27 Airstrip One
| BBR Headline potpourri... In other news, Sony DRM has being linked to Verizon FIOS delays, Xbox 360° shortages, and the success of SBC IPTV.
Google has also announced plans to use Sony DRM to release Firefox v1.6 via WiMax in Lafayette via the iMesh p2p program through the new Google DVR. -- Copyright infringement is illegal. Murder is illegal. Therefore, file sharing is murder. | |
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 |   KeepOnRockin Music Lover Forever Premium join:2002-11-08 Beaverton, OR | Re: BBR Headline potpourri... ROFL!
This is just crazy. All these companies and their bizarre rootkits!
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| Re: BBR Headline potpourri... said by KeepOnRockin :ROFL! This is just crazy. All these companies and their bizarre rootkits! :P Didn't you know Broadband Reports installed rootkits on our computers? [grin] :P | |
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| Re: BBR Headline potpourri... said by antdude :Didn't you know Broadband Reports installed rootkits on our computers? [grin] :P Dude! You're supposed to keep that on the downlow! | |
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| Re: BBR Headline potpourri...
said by KrK :said by antdude :Didn't you know Broadband Reports installed rootkits on our computers? [grin] :P Dude! You're supposed to keep that on the downlow! Oops! -- Ant @ The Ant Farm: »antfarm.ma.cx ... Please do not IM/e-mail me for technical support. Use the forum (I check almost daily)! Disclaimer: The views expressed in this posting are mine, and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer. | |
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| said by tapeloop :In other news, Sony DRM has being linked to Verizon FIOS delays, Xbox 360° shortages, and the success of SBC IPTV. Google has also announced plans to use Sony DRM to release Firefox v1.6 via WiMax in Lafayette via the iMesh p2p program through the new Google DVR. Where did you read that? I can not find it on the web. The Root kit issues yes, but not what you are touting. -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
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| said by RayW :Where did you read that? I can not find it on the web. The Root kit issues yes, but not what you are touting. He got it from www.gullible.com  | |
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| Re: BBR Headline potpourri... Well I could tell you how I got my info, but then I'd have to kill you. (Or work for Dick Cheney...I hear he's hiring. ) -- Copyright infringement is illegal. Murder is illegal. Therefore, file sharing is murder. | |
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| said by tapeloop :In other news, Sony DRM has being linked to Verizon FIOS delays, Xbox 360° shortages, and the success of SBC IPTV. Google has also announced plans to use Sony DRM to release Firefox v1.6 via WiMax in Lafayette via the iMesh p2p program through the new Google DVR. Although I appreciate your humour (good sarcasm is always fun to read), the reason this is in the news is the goober from the company that created the rootkit insisted in an interview yesterday that nobody was exploiting this and it was no big deal.
I find it deliciously ironic that it is being used to hide files from another piece of privacy invading software that people want/need to play a game. | |
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  jhboricua ExMod 2000-01 join:2000-06-06 Minneapolis, MN clubs: | LOL Oh the irony is too much. | |
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| So how long will it be... ...before WoW releases an anti-drm root kit, only to be countered by Sony releasing an anti-anti-drm rootkit.
Here's an idea to manufacturers. Leave your #$%* crap off MY machines. Your doing nothing to encourage people NOT to steal your content and constant reminders/encouragement to steal it to avoid crap like this. -- "What gives them the right to come in and do this?" she said. - Lady complaining that she was getting FIOS in her backyard. | |
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| Here's the instructions... Stright from the forum linked in the SecurityFocus article:
1] Buy the [Sony DRM] CD 2] Run the CD 3] rename myhack.exe to $sys$myhack.exe
Done. It works better then the FU rootkit...
Way to go Sony! Now we can hide files just by adding $sys$ to the file name. Poof, they're gone... or are they?
What A-holes. -- Want an OC3? Go to college! Washington State University OC3 MRTG | |
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join:2003-07-20 Alabaster, AL | Why would anybody cheat at WoW? That is pretty lame. | |
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join:2000-07-23 Waxahachie, TX | Re: Why would anybody cheat at WoW? Why does anyone cheat in any online game? Because they lack the skills to play. | |
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join:2003-10-19 Tacoma, WA | Re: Why would anybody cheat at WoW? I dont think they want to use cheats, considering a 12 year old could pull that off, they just think that you are a dumbass thinking you can do something they cant, while ruining the game. | |
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| Re: Why would anybody cheat at WoW? said by dodgetech2 :said by Xizer :No, because it's fun to do and it's hilarious watching the people who are too stupid to figure out how to cheat get angry at us God... I hope your kidding..... Probably not. Think of it as flamebait for online games. | |
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My rootkit will get all of you cheat'en no good bums, and you bootleggers don't stand a chance, so there. :D | |
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| Re: You had all better watch out Where MS in all this aren't they taking advangete of this security hole if anyone can use let it be spyware makers hackers //companies using DRM like sony next could be gamer protection
where our patch dammit
or i'm i getting it all wrong are they using it with permision of M$ or did microsoft use there own hole to protected content cause i know DRM comes from M$ | |
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join:2001-10-05 Rockville, MD | wow! now everyone knows where to get a rootkit! Even if they don't have leet skilz. | |
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| Re: wow! Microsoft Needs to do something about this stat. No process should be allowed to run on the same level as the OS NONE at least not stealth. Or maybe their are things that go bump in the OS that MS doesnt want people knowing about. What if in addition to the OS MS got Programs that report stuff to them. | |
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| Re: wow! Let's consider:
1) People need to be able to install drivers so their hardware works.
2) The drivers need access to the hardware in order to work.
3) User-mode programs can't access hardware directly because of a working security model. | |
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| DMCA Violation Root Kit Considering that this tool is being used to bypass a legal protection (blizzard), Sony should be sued under the DMCA by the attorney generals. I mean, if the **AA's can sue people for bypassing copy protection, then I sure as hell want to the the government turn on the big corporation for the same violation.
From the DMCA text : Under Section 1201.(a) VIOLATIONS REGARDING CIRCUMVENTION OF TECHNOLOGICAL MEASURES- (1)(A) No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title., and subsection (3) As used in this subsection-- `(A) to `circumvent a technological measure' means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner.
Now, the sony DRM is blatantly used to violate the Blizzard protection mechanism. Granted, the original purpose of the device was not to bypass Blizzard, but the law is blind to that fact. The fact of the matter is that people are ACTIVELY SEEKING it out for the SOLE PURPOSE of bypassing blizzards protection.
Now, in the REAL WORLD, the attorney general of the US would sue sony, and seek the maximum pentalties for the corporation AND THE OFFICERS of the company. If the MPAA can sue a grandpa for 600,000.00, then by my count, the number of downloads of the DRM package has far exceeded 10,000, but that's a nice round number to prosecute with. So, 500,000.00 for the first penalty, and 9 billion, 990 million penalty for the subsquent downloads. And all the executives go to the big house. Remember, the only reason the **AA's go for the huge penalties is to make it a deterrence. If they can sue for more than the net worth of a person, please explain why a corporation shouldn't be sued for 500% of it's value. Only the shareholders loose, but hey, they invested in a shady company like sony, and knew the risk they were taking.
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| Re: DMCA Violation Root Kit Gee, I wonder if this means that when I plug my PS3 in to my home network, that it is going to scan my network for for sony files?
Or maybe this is sony's stab trying to take down WOW.. and getting people to move from WOW to EQ2. -- When I've captured my adversary and he says, "Look, before you kill me, will you at least tell me what this is all about?" I'll say, "No." and shoot him. No, on second thought I'll shoot him then say "No." | |
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join:2001-10-05 Rockville, MD | It would definitely be sweet, but unfortunately "Warden" doesn't really control access to anything, it just invades your privacy to prevent cheating. | |
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| Re: DMCA Violation Root Kit LOL you guys haven't heard about Sonys plan with BluRAY DVD Players? They were to be hooked to a internet connection to work, and if you tried to play any unauthorized media on the drive the server would send a firmware update that would make your bluray player UNPLAYABLE.
Yeah Sony is a great anti-consumer company. Boycotting those mofos.
I wasn't aware that Blizzard was up to the same antics..computers are becoming a scary place. -- - paranoidxe (txtfiles.org) | |
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join:2002-12-30 Laurel, MD | Forget the DMCA; Sony should be prosecuted for computer trespass, just like anyone else who pulled that kind of crap would be.
But using one evil tool to fight another one? Priceless. | |
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| I like how they put in security analysts... Umm no offense to Mark Russinovich since I use his tools but when did he become a "security analyst"? I mean he is a great programmer and a benefit to the Windows community but this only came about because he noticed it on his computer  -- Read the ENTIRE message before you spew troll slobber all over it! | |
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| Old Tools said by securityfocus.com :
reports that gamers are already exploiting the DRM to hide cheater files and processes
Rootkits are what, a decade old, but only now being utilized in this manner?
Granted, Sony screwed up big time with this, but blaming Sony for a now sudden rash of cheats utilizing a Rootkit is, well, juvenile to say the least. Along with that, it's not the DRM, per'se, that is the issue, it is the use of a Rootkit to implement the DRM being the core issue.
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| Re: Old Tools FWIW I sent Sony an e-mail with a link to Mark Russinovichs' blog and asked them to explain what in the h3ll they were trying to accomplish by installing rootkits on unsuspecting buyers machines. No response so far. I would love to see this issue on the nightly news but I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen either. Whoever is responsible for Sony's' decision to do this should be made to pay and pay dearly. -- Never look back.Something might be gaining on you. | |
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| Re: Old Tools yeah, you won't see Brian Williams or Anderson Cooper saying anything about one of the world's most popular mmo scanning your computer for hacks and cheaters are using a sony drm software app to combat it and run cheat software. -- "Villains!" I shrieked, "dissemble no more! I admit the deed! --tear up the planks! here, here! --It is the beating of his hideous heart!" E.A. Poe | |
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| Re: Old Tools said by PBX Tech :yeah, you won't see Brian Williams or Anderson Cooper saying anything about one of the world's most popular mmo scanning your computer for hacks and cheaters are using a sony drm software app to combat it and run cheat software. NPR will though: »www.npr.org/templates/story/stor···=4989260 -- Copyright infringement is illegal. Murder is illegal. Therefore, file sharing is murder. | |
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